I will take the chair. Mr. President, it is about time we got down to business this afternoon and start taking care of some of these amendments. We would like to dispose of this bill at least by tomorrow. I call up the Coburn amendment No.…
I will take the chair.
Mr. President, it is about time we got down to business this afternoon and start taking care of some of these amendments. We would like to dispose of this bill at least by tomorrow.
I call up the Coburn amendment No. 1002 and ask for its immediate consideration.
I ask for the regular order.
Mr. President, I do not know how one signs on to all of what was just stated by my friend from Kentucky. I can also compliment him in a couple of areas and say that I would not be here had it not been for him. I do not know if I should mourn or celebrate that.
Nonetheless, if anyone ever visits Kentucky and takes in the traditions of Kentucky, they will find out the former Senator was a part of that landscape and the present-day Senator is the same way. So congratulations.
I yield the floor back to the Senator from Oklahoma on his amendment where we were interrupted, amendment 1019, which is in order.
I thank the Senator from Oklahoma. The argument is made there are very few of us here who do not look for extra funds to put into IHS, and especially in the diabetes program. We know that is important.
This year, the committee has included an additional $135 million to support Indian health services. This is the largest increase in many years targeted specifically at providing greater support for hospital and clinical services, dentistry, nursing, diabetes, and
other important health services. Funds for population growth and medical inflation have been included for the first time in probably a decade or more.
This increase comes at a time when most other agency budgets in the bill are not growing--in fact, many are declining. For example, EPA is reduced $144 million below their current year level; the Forest Service $648 million below; and the National Park Service, $52 million below. I point to these reductions both to underscore the commitment all of us share to improving health care in Indian country, but also to demonstrate that increases for any one agency come at the expense of others.
My colleague's amendment proposes to add funds to the special diabetes program. This program was initiated through the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 and reauthorized in December 2002 to provide $150 million annually for 5 years beginning in 2004. These are not appropriated dollars, it is a mandatory spending program for the prevention and treatment of diabetes within Indian communities. In addition to this program, the IRS itself spends over $100 million annually from within its appropriation to address diabetes treatment and prevention. There are also other programs funded outside this bill--the Centers for Disease Control comes to mind--that direct funds to Indian country for diabetes work. I mention these programs to highlight the fact there are significant resources being dedicated to diabetes work now with this committee's support and we are encouraged by the impact these funds are having in Indian communities.
Alcohol and substance abuse is another area where we are directing a substantial amount of funding into tackling this problem. This budget proposes a $6.3 million increase bringing the total for these efforts up to $145.3 million. Of this funding, 97 percent goes directly to tribally contracted or compacted programs. The committee has been an advocate for this program and has worked to increase funding over the years.
Funding levels for these two programs may not be in amounts that are ideal, but they are significant. Other programs of importance to our Members were proposed to take substantial reductions in the budget request, which we have struggled to restore. In the end, as I have said before, we have to strike a balance in this bill. I think the committee bill does a good job of hitting this balance and I urge Members to support the committee position.
I yield for a question.
This bill has such a delicate balance that there could be--and I will raise it--a budgetary point of order. That is what we have to work with. The Senator from Oklahoma knows how to work with budgets and how we work with appropriations. It proposes to add $121 million to the Indian Health Service for a special diabetes program and an alcohol substance abuse program. The offset would be derived from an equivalent reduction in land acquisition. This transfer of funds results in a change of outlays that causes the bill to exceed its outlay allocation.
Now we might work on offsets in some other areas. As to the argument that you would make about land acquisition, we have always had land acquisition, but we have also had land sales. I wish I could stand here and report to you that we had as many sales as we have had acquisitions because I, for one, support the idea that there should be no net gain of land by the Federal Government. I come from county government. I know whenever the Government buys land, it takes it off the tax rolls. It hurts me as a county commissioner to provide all the programs that I have been asked to provide at the county level. In fact, we passed some legislation at one time when I first came here, which I was part of, of no net gain--or no net loss--whichever way you want to define it.
The way this is structured does raise a point of order, and I will raise that point. The pending amendment offered by the Senator from Oklahoma increases discretionary spending in excess of the 302(b) allocation to the Subcommittee on Interior and Related Agencies of the Committee on Appropriations. Therefore, I raise the point of order against the amendment according to section 302(f) of the Budget Act.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that this amendment be set aside. I believe the Senator from Oklahoma has another amendment.
Amendment No. 1053
That is perfectly amenable to me. In fact, I would suggest the pending business be set aside and call up amendment No. 1053.
I ask unanimous consent the amendment be adopted by voice vote.
First, the unanimous consent is to vitiate the yeas and nays.
I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
We all live by sunshine, I would tell the Senator from Oklahoma.
I think--I will have to ask counsel on this--whenever the House passes their bill and sends it to the Senate, and we take that bill to our committee, both the subcommittee and the full Committee on Appropriations, that House bill contains all of their earmarks. And some of those earmarks are covered up, agreed. But that bill is available for the Senators' perusal whenever it comes over here.
Now, most of these, however--recommended by the House and the Senate both--appear in the tables of the statement of the managers that accompanies that conference report. They are all there. All you have to do is kind of look for them. Some of them are not because the two bills are merged.
So in order to get the bills balanced out, merged, and back on the floor with a conference report--and you have to remember, the staff reads that whole bill, every word, before it is in its final form and comes back here for final consideration--some of those do get covered up. But in each body, all of those earmarks are a matter of public record, what goes on in their committees on the House side and the Senate side. This is to facilitate getting that report put together, the bill coming back on this floor, and getting it passed.
So what the Senator is asking for is more time between the time the House passes it, we pass it, it goes to conference, and then getting it back on the floor and full disposal of the conference report.
So it is not to hide anything. The way it is done is not meant to hide anything. And nothing is hidden. You just have to follow the trail in order to dig it out. And I realize sometimes the public would have a hard time doing that. But as a Senator, we even have to work at it at times. But, basically, that is the reason for the process: to save time, take some of the load off the staff that has to put this together.
So I would ask that the body oppose this particular amendment.
Well, I will tell you, I have read those conference reports, also--even the bills that come over from the House--like you. If you have a clear paper trail, and you read everything, about 80 percent of all earmarks are contained in the conference report. There are just a few that are matched up, and we do not get to see them in the conference report.
I will. I am still going to fight for the 20 percent. How is that?
Sure. Listen, I helped pass a law with Senator Lieberman on E-Government. Any citizen can go to their computer and dial it up online, and they can follow it all the way through. There are ways of doing that. I was part of that debate on E-Government. And we are going to do another E-Government bill that is going to open it up even wider, we would hope.
Yes.
I would answer that by saying those citizens who are really, really interested in how we budget and how we spend do have the capabilities and the knowledge to access that information and to follow it.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate now proceed to the vote in relation to the pending motion to waive with respect to the Coburn amendment No. 1019, to be followed immediately by a vote in relation to the Coburn amendment No. 1003, with no second degrees in order to the amendments prior to the votes and with 2 minutes equally divided for debate prior to the second vote.
Mr. President, I urge the body to not support the amendment offered by my good friend from Oklahoma. Everything is listed in earmarks either in the House bill or the Senate bill. The conference report misses some of them because they overlap. I ask the body not to support this amendment and support the committee.
I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, we decided to call up amendment numbered 1026, the Sununu-Bingaman amendment regarding the Tongass National Forest.
There is no time agreement on this amendment.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I call up the following amendments en bloc: amendment 1049, offered by Senator Kyl, as modified; amendment numbered 1060, offered by Senator Landrieu, as modified; amendment 1055, offered by Mr. Bingaman, as modified; amendment numbered 1061, offered by Senator Obama; amendment numbered 1030, offered by Mr. Bingaman, as modified; amendment 1020, offered by Senator Coburn, as modified; amendment numbered 1031, offered by Mr. Bingaman; and amendment 1058, offered by Mr. Bingaman.
I ask unanimous consent these amendments be agreed to en bloc.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that other than a series of amendments which have been cleared by both managers, all other amendments be withdrawn, with the exception of the following amendments, and, further, that the amendments be considered as follows:
Boxer amendment No. 1023, regarding pesticides; I or my designee with a first degree relating to pesticides; further that there be 120 minutes equally divided to be used concurrently on both amendments, with a vote in relation to my amendment, followed by a vote in relation to the Boxer amendment;
Dorgan amendment No. 1025, regarding Indian health, 20 minutes equally divided;
Amendment No. 1026, offered by Mr. Sununu, regarding the Tongass, 30 minutes equally divided;
Senator Murray's amendment No. 1052, regarding veterans health; Senator Santorum's second-degree amendment to the Murray amendment relating to veterans health; provided that there be 110 minutes equally divided between the two leaders or their designees to be used concurrently on the first and second-degree amendments;
Senator Dorgan's amendment No. 1059, regarding Cuba travel, 20 minutes equally divided; provided that the vote occur in relation to the motion to suspend the rules relative to that amendment; further, that if the motion to suspend is agreed to, the amendment be subject to further debate and amendment;
Senator Kyl's amendment No. 1050, 5 minutes for Senator Kyl, with the amendment then withdrawn;
Senator Sarbanes' amendment No. 1046, 5 minutes saved for Senator Sarbanes.
Finally, I ask unanimous consent that the votes occur in relation to the above-listed amendments, with no second degrees in order to the amendments prior to the votes unless otherwise indicated; further that following the disposition of the above amendments, the bill be read a third time and the Senate proceed to a vote on passage of the bill, with no intervening action or debate.