Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on the further consideration of H.R. 4660, and that I may include tabular…
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on the further consideration of H.R. 4660, and that I may include tabular material on the same.
I move to strike the requisite number of words.
Mr. Chair, I accept the amendment and yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
Mr. Chair, I have no objection to the amendment, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
Mr. Chair, I rise in strong opposition to the amendment. The gentleman's amendment would cut the DEA by $18 million to pay for a $15 million increase for LSC.
The DEA primarily targets high-level drug trafficking organizations, disrupting and dismantling them, attacking the economic basis of the drug trade and contributing to counterterrorism activities tied to and financed by drugs. It does not focus on low-level criminals nor on users.
It has seen a huge challenge not only internationally but from the cartels. Every drug area in the Nation now is controlled pretty much by the Mexican cartels.
Also, our funding level for LSC is $50 million above last year's House level. It is above the FY12 enacted level. The bill also includes an additional $43 million under the Violence Against Women program specifically for legal assistance for domestic violence victims. This amount is nearly 50 percent above the enacted level.
Lastly, later today, we will likely consider amendments that significantly reduce or eliminate LSC. I plan to oppose those amendments that are going to cut Legal Services. I oppose this amendment, and I ask for a ``no'' vote.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Will the gentleman yield?
I thank the gentlemen from New Jersey and Massachusetts. I recognize the importance of NOAA's restoration programs, especially the community-based restoration program, and we will work to address your concerns as the bill moves forward toward conference with the Senate.
Mr. Chair, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
The reason the numbers are what they are, there was an indiscriminate cut by the administration of $75 million. Secondly--and I know the gentleman from Colorado didn't mean this--but you kind of just blew off the DEA agents. A number of DEA agents have died--a number of DEA agents died in Afghanistan. A number of DEA agents have risked their lives for us here.
The head of the DEA is a career civil servant who was a city of Baltimore police officer who has given her life to law enforcement for the last 30 years. So I don't think you meant it, but if I were a DEA agent somewhere back in some remote area maybe watching C-SPAN in Afghanistan, where there is a number of DEA agents who are risking their lives when we are in a very safe community surrounded by policemen, but maybe they are in Kabul right now where there were just some killings the other day--
So, I oppose the amendment. DEA is striving to cope with significant challenges. There is surging heroin. We have increased heroin. Members of Congress have come up, the committee has tried to address their needs--heroin Midwest, heroin Virginia, heroin all over, heroin, heroin. The DEA is dealing with that. The trafficking of prescription drugs, we just increased money for prescription drug abuse because it has the number one impact on young people.
DEA is the line of defense. DEA is the one that is fighting the Mexican drug cartels. Every community in the United States, the drug operations are impacted by the Mexican cartels, and it is the DEA that is doing this. This bill tries to help.
Also, it helps DEA out of the impact that they will hit with regard to sequester. So, I urge a ``no'' vote for the amendment.
I yield to the gentleman from Colorado.
Let me say she has not embarrassed herself before the body. If this institution is going to go criticizing people who have served us that way, I think she has done an honorable job. I think she has represented the DEA well.
Also, I think there has been an effort by some in the administration to attack her in a way, it almost reminds me of the Nixon administration. I was in the Nixon administration. They had policies whereby they would go after civil servants and career people--I think some of the things that have been done against her. So I think this is a very bad amendment.
If you want to allow the cartels to come in--you can't just take $35 million and say it has no impact on the agents that are working and giving their life and sacrificing their life in Afghanistan. This is a bad amendment, and I urge a ``no'' vote.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I wanted to read, just briefly to the House, some of the names that are on the Wall of Honor of DEA agents who have given their life for our country, and I will put the whole list in the Record:
Special Agent James Terry Watson, June 21, 2013; Special Agent Michael E. Weston, October 26, 2009; Special Agent Chad L. Michael, October 26, 2009; Special Agent Forrest N. Leamon, October 26, 2009; FBI Special Agent Samuel S. Hicks, November 19, 2008; Special Agent Thomas J. Byrne, August 30, 2008; Task Force Officer Jay Balchunas, November 5, 2004; Special Agent Donald C. Ware, October 12, 2004; Special Agent Terry Loftus, May 28, 2004; Telecomm Specialist Elton Lee Armstead, March 18, 2003; Diversion Investigator Alice Faye Hall- Walton, March 1, 2001; Special Agent Royce D. Tramel, August 28, 2000; Pilot Instructor Larry Steilen, September 25, 1998; Special Agent Shaun E. Curl, December 12, 1997; Special Agent Kenneth G. McCullough, April 19, 1995; Carrie A. Lenz, April 19, 1995; Office Assistant Carrol J. Fields, April 19, 1995; Rona L. Chafey, April 19, 1995; Shelly Bland, April 19, 1995; Special Agent Frank S. Wallace, Jr., August 27, 1994; Special Agent Juan Vars, August 27, 1994; Special Agent Meredith Thompson, August 27, 1994; Special Agent Jay W. Seale, August 27, 1994; Special Agent Frank Fernandez, Jr., August 27, 1994; Special Agent Richard E. Fass, June 30, 1994; Detective Stephen J. Strehl, November 19, 1993; Special Agent Becky Dwojeski, October 21, 1993; Special Agent George D. Althouse, May 28, 1992; Special Agent Alan H. Winn, August 13, 1991; Special Agent Eugene T. McCarthy, February 2, 1991; Investigator Wallie Howard, Jr., October 30, 1990, and the list goes on.
I will put the whole list in the Record. This is to make up for what happened in sequestration. These people are literally giving their lives. We will also insert into the Record with regard to the helicopter crash that took the lives of those agents. For those reasons, I strongly oppose the amendment.
Will the gentleman yield?
I appreciate the gentleman's concern, and we will continue to work on this. I thank the gentleman for his comments. We will work on this in an appropriate way for the people of your region.
I thank the gentleman.
Four agents have died since 2009. Four agents have died since 2009.
Mr. Chair, I would like to submit the full list of DEA agents who gave their lives to keep our communities safe.
Agent Stafford E. Beckett, March 22, 1921; Agent Charles
Archie Wood, March 22, 1921; Agent Joseph W. Floyd, May 17,
1922; Agent Bert S. Gregory, October 25, 1922; Agent James T.
Williams, October 16, 1924; Agent Louis L. Marks, October 24,
1924; Agent James E. Brown, June 7, 1928; Agent James R.
Kerrigan, December 27, 1928; Agent John W. Crozier, November
16, 1934; Agent Spencer Stafford, February 7, 1935; Agent
Andrew P. Sanderson, September 23, 1944; Agent Anker M.
Bangs, September 24, 1950; Agent Wilson M. Shee, December 12,
1957; Agent Mansel R. Burrell, December 19, 1967; Agent
Hector Jordan, October 14, 1970; Officer Gene A. Clifton,
November 19, 1971; Special Agent Frank Tummillo, October 12,
1972; Special Agent George F. White, March 25, 1973; Special
Agent Richard Heath, Jr., April 1, 1973; Special Agent Emir
Benitez, August 9, 1973.
Detective Gerald Sawyer, November 6, 1973; Investigator
Leslie S. Grosso, May 21, 1974; Special Agent Nickolas
Fragos, August 5, 1974; Secretary Mary Keehan, August 5,
1974; Special Agent Charles H. Mann, August 5, 1974;
Secretary Anna Mounger, August 5, 1974; Fiscal Assistant Anna
Pope, August 5, 1974; Spvr Clerk-Typist Martha Skeels, August
5, 1974; Clerk-Typist Mary Sullivan, August 5, 1974; Special
Agent Larry D. Wallace, December 19, 1975; Special Agent
James T. Lunn, May 14, 1976; Special Agent Ralph N. Shaw, May
14, 1976; Special Agent Octavio Gonzalez, December 13, 1976;
Office Assistant Susan Hoefler, August 16, 1986; Special
Agent William Ramos, December 31, 1986; Special Agent Raymond
J. Stastny, January 26, 1987; Special Agent Arthur L. Cash,
August 25, 1987; Detective Terry W. McNett, February 2, 1988;
Special Agent George M. Montoya, February 5, 1988; Special
Agent Paul S. Seema, February 6, 1988.
Special Agent Everett E. Hatcher, February 28, 1989;
Special Agent Rickie C. Finley, May 20, 1989; Investigator
Joseph T. Aversa, March 5, 1990; Investigator Wallie Howard
Jr., October 30, 1990; Special Agent Eugene T. McCarthy,
February 2, 1991; Special Agent Alan H. Winn, August 13,
1991; Special Agent George D. Althouse, May 28, 1992; Special
Agent Becky L. Dwojeski, October 21, 1993; Detective Stephen
J. Strehl, November 19, 1993; Special Agent Richard E. Fass,
June 30, 1994; Special Agent Frank Fernandez, Jr., August 27,
1994; Special Agent Jay W. Seale, August 27, 1994; Special
Agent Meredith Thompson, August 27, 1994; Special Agent Juan
C. Vars, August 27, 1994; Special Agent Frank S. Wallace,
Jr., August 27, 1994; Shelly D. Bland, April 19, 1995; Rona
L. Chafey, April 19, 1995; Office Assistant Carrol J. Fields,
April 19, 1995; Carrie A. Lenz, April 19, 1995; Special Agent
Kenneth G. McCullough, April 19, 1995.
Special Agent Shaun E. Curl, December 12, 1997; Pilot
Instructor Larry Steilen, September 25, 1998; Special Agent
Royce D. Tramel, August 28, 2000; Diversion Investigator
Alice Faye Hall-Walton, March 1, 2001; Telecomm. Specialist
Elton Lee Armstead, March 18, 2003; Special Agent Terry
Loftus, May 28, 2004; Special Agent Francis J. Miller, March
5, 1977; Special Agent Robert C. Lightfoot, November 23,
1977; Special Agent Thomas J. Devine, September 25, 1982;
Special Agent Larry N. Carwell, January 9, 1984; Detective
Marcellus Ward, December 3, 1984; Special Agent Enrique S.
Camarena, March 5, 1985; Deputy Sheriff James A. Avant, July
24, 1986; Investigator Charles M. Bassing, July 24, 1986;
Investigator Kevin L. Brosch, July 24, 1986; Special Agent
Donald C. Ware, October 12, 2004; Task Force Officer Jay
Balchunas, November 5, 2004; Special Agent Thomas J. Byrne,
August 30, 2008; FBI Special Agent Samuel S. Hicks, November
19, 2008; Special Agent Forrest N. Leamon, October 26, 2009;
Special Agent Chad L. Michael, October 26, 2009; Special
Agent Michael E. Weston, October 26, 2009; Special Agent
James Terry Watson, June 21, 2013.
Will the gentleman yield?
I thank the gentleman for his efforts on this. I want to personally tell you that I appreciate it.
I also appreciate the fact that Greta Van Susteren was down there. I watched one of the interviews. It is painful to watch, to see how a United States citizen--I appreciate the gentleman's service, too, in the Marine Corps. I know you were in Fallujah. Your dad was very proud of what you had done. I know you have to have a feeling for this, but why we cannot get someone out.
We will do everything we can to work with you, to help you. We will call the Attorney General's Office tomorrow. I will try to talk to Mr. Holder, who I know will be very sympathetic and help to see what we can possibly do to get the gentleman out. I thank the gentleman. We will do anything you ask us to do.
Thank you.
I want to thank Mr. Crowley for raising this issue. Mr. Serrano, I think, also raised it at one of the hearings, and also Mr. Diaz-Balart. I will do everything I can to work with you and see if we can deal with this.
Thank you for raising the issue.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
Mr. Chairman, the gentleman raises a good point. I am going to oppose the amendment--and I will get into it--but we will be glad to work with them to see what we could. Because I think when you have--and Mr. Fattah knows--when we have had different areas, we will be glad to meet with you and ATF to get them to do this.
The budget really hasn't been cut. It is flat. I think they are $1 million off. This is the only agency that didn't get a big hit in sequestration.
But the reason I oppose the amendment--and I will get to your issue at the end--is it would take a reduction from NASA's commercial crew. You have seen the stories where Putin said, and the head of their space program, their general, said: If we want to get their space station, we are going to have to use a trampoline.
Funds for this program are critical to allow NASA to name the development schedule and to end our reliance on the Russians so we can get up there. Right now we pay them roughly $60 million a ticket almost to get up there.
Less funding would mean fewer development testing activities being carried out, which in turn will put pressure on the overall program.
So for that reason, I oppose the amendment and ask for a ``no'' vote. But I would say, let's talk after this and we can have a meeting with you and Mr. Fattah and myself with the ATF and see if we can get them, as we have in some communities, to kind of focus like a laser beam on your community because, rightly so, your people ought to know they can live in safe areas. We will be glad to do that no matter what the outcome of the amendment is.
But I urge a ``no'' vote on the amendment because of where he takes it from and what the impact would have on the commercial crew.
With that, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
Mr. Chairman, I have no objection to the amendment, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
Mr. Chairman, the gentlelady makes a very powerful case, and I think she is absolutely right. I support the amendment. I will accept it.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
I have no objection to the amendment, and I support the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of the gentleman's amendment.
As he stated better than I could, as more veterans return from combat, we are seeing their increased involvement in the justice system. The committee established the Veterans court program in fiscal year 2013, and it has increased its funding.
I thank the gentleman for offering an amendment. I urge an ``aye'' vote for it.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
I thank the gentleman for the amendment. I think it helps those who need help, particularly in the rural areas. I accept the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
I have no objection to the amendment, and I yield back the balance of my fame
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
I rise in opposition to the amendment, but I do appreciate what the gentleman said. As we move on and we get to conference, there may be something we can do. I know Mr. Fattah feels the same way with regard to gang violence in the inner city.
The underlining bill has already reduced NASA's construction budget by $69 million. Further reductions--which this would do--would negatively impact NASA's ability to meet mission critical construction needs for the human spaceflight program, address urgent safety-related repairs at centers around the country--which certainly need them--and discharge legal requirements to remediate environmental damage.
Construction projects are, by definition, long lead items that must be started early in order to be ready. By cutting these funds now, we will create a programmatic ripple effect that will be felt in our high- priority space program for the years to come.
So for these reasons--and where the money is taken from--I urge a ``no'' vote.
With that, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order. We are just looking at the amendment, so, in order to protect the time, Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the gentleman's amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I withdraw the point of order, and I rise in opposition to the amendment.
I think we have--we never saw the amendment, and it is really pretty tough to really--but just looking at it quickly, I think we are at a record level for cyber, ever, in the history of this great body.
The gentleman has a good point. He takes away from aeronautics, and aeronautics is our number one export, if we were not exporting even aircraft from the gentleman's home State, our balance of payment, so to take away from aeronautics, when we have plussed up aeronautics, so America can continue to be number one, and put it in an area that is ill-defined.
Secondly, we have given more for cyber than any other time--cyber money in NIST, cyber money in the FBI, national security business, cyber money in the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Criminal Division; so, because of that, I would urge a ``no'' vote.
Cyber is important. Every major company in this country has been hit by the Chinese Government. Law firms in this town are being hit by the Chinese Government. Seventeen Members of Congress had their computers stripped by the Chinese Government. A committee had their computers stripped by the Chinese Government.
So I think we should focus the cyber where we have it and not go after aeronautics. Because of that, I think the gentleman is well- intentioned. Obviously, Boeing has been hit, but Boeing is better served by what we are doing with regard to aiding the FBI to deal with this and the U.S. attorney.
I commend and did a letter to the Attorney General last week, thanking him and thanking the FBI for their cyber cases that they are bringing against the People's Liberation Army.
In light of where we are, I would oppose the amendment. I think it is bad to take it from aeronautics, and I think we should focus on the cyber the way that we have done in the bill with the FBI, the National Security Division, the U.S. attorneys.
Again, I want to thank the Justice Department and the FBI for the great work they have done with regard to the People's Liberation Army and that we expect them to do in the future.
I urge a ``no'' vote on the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
I move to strike the requisite number of words.
I have no objection to the amendment and yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the gentleman's amendment.
Madam Chair, I make a point of order against the amendment because it provides an appropriation for an unauthorized program and, therefore, violates clause 2 of rule XXI.
Clause 2 of rule XXI states in pertinent part:
``An appropriation may not be in order as an amendment for an expenditure not previously authorized by law.''
Madam Chair, the amendment proposes to appropriate funds for a program that has not been reauthorized. It was last authorized in 2009. The amendment, therefore, violates clause 2 of rule XXI.
I ask for a ruling of the Chair.
Out of courtesy to the gentleman from Pennsylvania, I will reserve my point of order.
Madam Chair, I move to strike the last word.
Madam Chair, before I make a point of order, I do want to say that I do share what the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Fattah) said.
I would like to tell the gentleman from New York, it isn't only the law enforcement. We had a similar problem. We had MS-13 and violent gangs. It is law enforcement. It is also the mentoring that Mr. Fattah mentioned. It is after-school programs.
So, if we were to just go after the gang issue as a law enforcement issue, you will never solve the problem. It has to be law enforcement. The schools have to be involved. There have to be after-school programs. It is almost like a three-legged stool.
But as we move ahead, we can look to see because I think everyone who lives in these areas that have been impacted by gangs, that is as much of terrorism for them as it is for somebody that is faced with terrorism from al Qaeda.
Having said that, I do agree with what Mr. Fattah said.
Point of Order
Madam Chair, I now make a point of order against the amendment because it provides an appropriation for an unauthorized program and, therefore, violates clause 2 of rule XXI.
Clause 2 of rule XXI states, in pertinent part:
``An appropriation may not be in order as an amendment for an expenditure not previously authorized by law.''
Madam Chair, the amendment proposes to appropriate funds for a program that has not been reauthorized. And I agree with the gentleman; it probably should have been reauthorized. It was last authorized in 2009. The amendment, therefore, violates clause 2 of rule XXI.
I ask for a ruling from the Chair.
Madam Chair, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
I rise in opposition to the amendment, but I would hope that we can work it out. If you wanted to offer a different amendment with regard to the health care issue, I will support it, if we can find a way, but the concern I have is OSTP is a small office.
This is roughly cutting 20 percent of their entire budget. In the last 2 years alone--and I agree with what the gentleman said on the health care aspect--our subcommittee has tasked OSTP with coordinating a major interagency effort on neuroscience, overseeing the implementation of policy across the government on public access to Federally funded research results, cochairing an effort to streamline and prioritize Federal STEM education and spending, and assessing the American supply chain vulnerability stemming from the lack of domestic access to rare earth elements, which is another problem that we are beginning to have with China.
If we reduce the OSTP by 20 percent and if the gentleman would offer another amendment to reduce it by, you know, $50,000, I would accept the amendment or take the amendment, I can't speak for the other side, but to cut it by 20 percent, that is just too much.
So until there is a different amendment that would meet the gentleman's need, as I agree with him on health care, we would accept it, but to take 20 percent out, particularly since--and I know Mr. Fattah has been working with the whole issue of neuroscience and the brain, I would oppose the amendment.
I yield to the gentleman.
Reclaiming my time, I completely agree. What I will do is we will call the OSTP and ask Mr. Holdren to come up with the gentleman and get him, and you can come to the meeting, too.
Quite frankly, if he doesn't come, I will offer, when we go to conference, to take a chunk out of this to make sure that you get answers. We would like to bring Mr. Holdren up so that Chairman Broun will have an opportunity to talk to the individual. I will help him get the individual up.
It will be in your office, not in mine. We will ask Holdren to come up the week we come back in.
I yield to the gentleman.
Yes. If he doesn't come up, I would. If he does not come up, I would. I will.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chair, I move that the Committee do now rise.