Mr. Speaker, I have an amendment at the desk. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I rise to offer an amendment to House Joint Resolution 124 to provide authority to train and equip appropriately vetted elements of the…
Mr. Speaker, I have an amendment at the desk.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I rise to offer an amendment to House Joint Resolution 124 to provide authority to train and equip appropriately vetted elements of the Syrian opposition in order to defend the Syrian people from attacks by ISIL and to protect the United States and our friends and allies.
ISIL is a clear and present threat to our allies across the Middle East and to the United States. In this time of crisis, the President has asked for this authority because none of the existing Department of Defense train-and equip-programs fit the circumstances. Specifically, the President has requested the authority to train and equip nongovernmental entities fighting in the non-U.S.-led operation in Syria.
There is no doubt that any strategy to defeat ISIL must contain a Syria component. I believe that there are options to defeat ISIL in Syria short of a major U.S.-led combat operation. But the window of opportunity is closing. That is why I am supporting the President's request and have agreed to draft an amendment to the continuing resolution based on a modified version of the administration's initial proposal.
My amendment would allow the Secretary of Defense to provide assistance, including training, equipment, supplies, and the sustainment of the vetted opposition. The provision is intended to authorize activities necessary to facilitate such training and equipping activities, including the appropriate modification of existing facilities and the establishment of expeditionary facilities suitable for such training and accommodation, as well as payment of stipends to trainees.
The President's request did not specify the amount of funding that would be required for this effort and contained few oversight requirements. Therefore, my amendment would strengthen congressional oversight by requiring detailed reports, including progress reports on the plan, the vetting process, and the procedures for monitoring the end use of the training and equipment. It would also require the President to report on how this authority fits within a larger regional strategy.
This amendment does not authorize additional funds. However, it would allow the Department of Defense to submit reprogramming requests to Congress should the President require funds to execute this authority. It also permits the Secretary of Defense to accept foreign contributions.
Lastly, the amendment would state that nothing in this bill be construed to constitute a specific statutory authorization for the introduction of the United States Armed Forces into hostilities. There may be a time when we need to have an AUMF debate, but this is not it. The President has not asked for such an authority.
My amendment is narrowly focused on training and equipping Syrian opposition fighters to counter ISIL. This language was drafted in collaboration with the chairs of the national security committees and shared with the minority. Additionally, the language for this authority has been reviewed by the Department of Defense and the National Security Council.
Lastly, let me emphasize that this train-and-equip authority is a necessary part--but only one part--of what should be a larger strategy. It must be part of a larger effort in Syria, in Iraq, and across the region.
Let's also remember that it will be our men and women in uniform who will be conducting this training. We continue to ask more and more of our military, yet their funding continues to be cut. This is not sustainable and must be addressed.
Again, ISIL is a clear and present threat to the United States and our interests. My amendment is a necessary step to support what should be a larger strategy by the President to defeat ISIL.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Rogers), my friend and colleague, the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Royce), my friend and colleague, the chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume just to respond to my good friend from California, we have adjoining districts and we agree on many things, we disagree on a few things, but I would like to say that I agree with you. This is something that the Congress should address.
For 20 years--I have been here 22 years--whenever a President has asked for this, we have addressed it. We have not addressed it without having the request from the President.
This is something we had quite a debate a few weeks ago about what previous Presidents have done or not done and what authorities they have and what they don't have, and some of it just has not yet been decided by the Supreme Court. The President says he has the authority. He says he needs this additional authority to help in Syria. That is the question we are addressing here today. I think that we are bound to have this discussion. I know the Speaker wants to have it. Mr. Smith said he wants to have it. I want to have it.
I think one thing that we should really probably consider in all of this, this is not going to be a 1-month or a 2-month or probably even a 1-year or 2-year commitment that we are making here. ISIL is very serious about this, and we are going to be in this fight, as we have seen in the past, for a long time. And it is a new commitment. So I am thinking that, as close as we are to the election, there are going to be a lot of new Members here that are going to be living with this discussion, this debate, this vote, potentially for a long time. And I think those are the people that probably should make that decision in January or as close as they feel comfortable to having that debate.
Mr. Speaker, at this time I yield 4 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Frelinghuysen), my friend and colleague, the chairman of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.
I yield the chairman an additional minute.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Texas (Mr. Thornberry), my friend and colleague, the vice chairman of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Wittman), my friend and colleague, the chairman of the Armed Services Subcommittee on Readiness.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, there are many who support this amendment. There are many who feel like it is not enough.
I would like to just relay a couple of instances.
I just returned from the Middle East. I met with leaders of Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco. And one of the things that I think needs to be addressed, and the people--the people--need to understand this: who ISIL is. In about 600 AD, people moved--Arab people--
moved into the area that they called Levant. They controlled that area--it took them about 50 years to conquer it--and they controlled it from about 650 AD to about 1500 AD, when they were defeated by the Ottoman Empire.
That area comprised what we now know as part of Egypt, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Iran. It was a huge area. ISIL wants to go back to that same area. They want to control that same area. They want to set up a caliphate so that they can then export terrorism around the world, and they are going to be brutal about it. They have great designs. They are willing to do anything it takes to win.
I don't know why it seems like, when the President talks, the first thing he says is, ``No boots on the ground.'' As was just mentioned by the ranking member, there are boots on the ground. We have a force of over a thousand right now in Iraq. As he explained, their army kind of wilted for the reasons that he gave.
I talked to General Petraeus the other day, and he said their army will fight, but there are certain things that they need that only we can provide, and that is what we can provide without entering into the combat, without putting in divisions, without putting in what I guess is the reference to boots on the ground, which is a certain number--and I don't know what that number is--but we are not going to do that. That is not what we are talking about.
Saying we are not going to have boots on the ground is just kind of not being totally truthful with the American people. There are and will continue to be boots on the ground. They will provide training. They will provide leadership. They will provide ISR.
They will provide the intelligence and the things necessary for the Iraqis to be successful in pushing ISIL out of the ground that they have conquered and taken. They will be able to take it back.
What we are talking about is the ability to go in and train Syrian forces so they will be able to take back territory that they have lost in Syria and, by doing so, that will deprive ISIL of having a safe haven so, as they are pushed out of Iraq, they won't be able to go into Syria.
We need to envelop them and end their mission right there. Don't let them get into Lebanon and Jordan and these other countries. Don't let them squeeze out into those countries. We need to stop them now. The leaders in that area told me how big this threat was. They said, ``Don't think the oceans are going to protect you now. They will not.''
We all know that one of the big threats over there is foreign fighters entering into this fight. A lot of them have passports and will be able to enter back into Europe and come to this country and do a lot of serious things that we don't want to see happen. We would rather fight them there than here. That is the purpose of this amendment and the thing that we are talking about right now.
ISIL is a dangerous threat right now, and we need to address them right now. They are going very rapidly. They are very well-funded and well-led. They are fighting as an army, not as a little ragtag terrorist group. We need to address them that way.
With that, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Franks), my good friend and a member of the Armed Services Committee.
Mr. Speaker, at this time, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Lamborn), my friend and colleague and a member of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Byrne), my friend and colleague and a member of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from New York (Mr. Gibson), my friend and colleague, a member of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Florida (Mr. Diaz-Balart), my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Shuster), my friend and colleague, the chairman of the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and a member of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, at the President's request and in the amendment that we are debating--we got a little bit far afield there-- there is no request for money. The President says he doesn't need any additional moneys to carry this out. All he needs is the authority to go into Saudi Arabia and take their offer of training the Syrians to be able to go home and defend their homeland.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Jones), my friend and colleague and a member of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Utah (Mr. Stewart), my friend and colleague.
I yield the gentleman an additional 1 minute.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Florida (Mr. Ross), my friend and colleague.
I yield the gentleman an additional 30 seconds.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Conaway), my friend and colleague who is a member of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, at this time, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Sanford), my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the previous gentleman for his comments. He is the ranking member on the Foreign Affairs Committee. He understands this situation very well, and the only thing I would say is the reason we say ISIS/ISIL--I would just say ISIL because they are the same. We need to let the American people know who the enemy is. It is that group, ISIL, and they are the worst of all, in my opinion.
Secondly, the reason we are doing this now is twofold. The President asked for it. We only have one Commander in Chief at a time. I didn't vote for him, but he is our Commander in Chief. He asked for this. We are responding to that request as he asked us as Commander in Chief.
Secondly, and I think this is very important, Saudi Arabia stepped up and said not to keep this secret, but: we overtly will open up our territories and give you training facilities to train these Syrians.
That sends a message to people in that part of the world that this is not the big, bad Satan America against the world. This is moderate Arabs, Kurds, Sunnis, and Shi'a all joining together against terrorism that is out to destroy the world.
I think that opened up this possibility for the President to ask for this, and I am hopeful that we will be able to give him that authority.
Mr. Speaker, at this time, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Nebraska (Mr. Fortenberry), my friend and colleague, a member of the Committee on Appropriations.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from New York (Mr. King), my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, I yield the gentleman an additional 1 minute.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Louisiana, Dr. Charles Boustany, my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. McAllister), my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Louisiana, Dr. Fleming, my friend and colleague, a member of the Armed Services Committee.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher), my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Pittenger), my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Williams), my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, might I inquire how much time we have remaining on both sides?
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
A lot has been said today on both sides of this issue. As I have listened carefully to all of the arguments, it seems to me that the main argument, as I have heard it, against acting on this amendment at this time is that it doesn't go far enough or we don't know for sure if it would be successful.
I have been in this body now for 22 years. I wish that I had the foresight every time we come to this floor to know exactly what is going to happen after we take action, but it seems to me that none of us really has that foresight.
We can think about it, we can project, but we really don't know what is going to happen if we take action. Sometimes, we know what is going to happen if we don't take action. I think that is probably what we ought to be thinking a little bit about today.
There were some comments made about Iraq and Syria. One thing that I think hasn't been mentioned that I think we know is that we left Iraq precipitously. We can talk about blame. We can place it on President Obama.
I could criticize him for a lot of things, but I sure wouldn't want his job, and I think, because we did leave early, we didn't leave any residual force behind. Maliki did some things that we probably all would have changed.
Saddam Hussein, who was a Sunni--Sunnis are the minority in Iraq-- oppressed the Shi'a; so, when Maliki came in, a Shi'a, he oppressed the Sunnis. I think one thing that we do know is that the new Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi, is really making an effort to reach out to the Sunnis, the Shi'a, and the Kurds to bring a legitimate government that will look out for all of its people.
I think that has given us the opportunity to go into Iraq. The President has put over a thousand of our troops in there, bucked them up, and helped them with the things that they need to be successful in fighting off the terrorists, ISIL, and I think that there are things that they cannot do that we can help them with.
They need intelligence. They need ISR. They need logistics. They need air support. If we provide those things and they see that they are getting good support from their government and that it is not a fight between different sects or different regions and yet they can actually fight together as Iraqis, they will be successful in pushing ISIL back which would be a good thing. They can retake the territory that has been lost.
In the meantime, if we vote for this amendment, we give the President the authority to train Syrians that are thoroughly vetted in Saudi Arabia and then put them back into the fight.
These people are fighting for their homeland. These are people that are fighting for their villages, and they are fighting for their families. Are they perfect? We don't know, but I was talking to one of our retired generals who has been in the fight, and he told me that, sometimes, you have to work with people that are willing to fight the same enemy that you are willing to fight.
In this case, these people that we are looking at are willing to fight ISIL. If they have the help that we can provide, they can be successful, and then the people that we train can go back into the fight in Syria, and we can squeeze ISIL in between Syria and Iraq and keep them from entering into other nations where we do not wish to fight at this time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Gohmert), my friend and colleague.
Mr. Speaker, let me just say again that most of the arguments I have heard are, ``Don't do this.'' I haven't heard an alternative.
I think what we need to remember--and we hear it a lot around here-- is let's not make the perfect the enemy of the good. The President, the Commander in Chief, has asked for this authority. Saudi Arabia is willing to work with us on this. We need to develop the coalition. We are working hard to make that happen.
At this time, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.