Conference Report On H.R. 1540, National Defense Authorization Act For Fiscal Year 2012
Mr. Speaker, is the gentleman from Washington opposed to the conference report? Mr. Speaker, I claim the time in opposition to the conference report. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 5 minutes. It's been a decade since the attacks of September…
Mr. Speaker, is the gentleman from Washington opposed to the conference report?
Mr. Speaker, I claim the time in opposition to the conference report.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 5 minutes.
It's been a decade since the attacks of September 11, 2001. We are in danger of losing our most precious heritage, not because a band of thugs threatens our freedom, but because we are at risk of forgetting who we are and what makes the United States a truly great nation.
In the last 10 years, we have begun to let go of our freedoms, bit by bit, with each new executive order, court decision and, yes, act of Congress. The changes in this bill to the laws of detention have major implications for our fundamental rights. We should not be considering this as a rider to the Defense authorization bill. This should have been the subject of close scrutiny by the Judiciary Committee. The complex legal and constitutional issues should have been properly analyzed and the implications for our values carefully considered.
You will hear that this bill merely recodifies existing law; but many legal scholars tell us that it goes a great deal further than what the law now allows, that it codifies claims of executive power against our liberties that the courts have never confirmed. You will hear that it really won't affect U.S. citizens, although, again, there is credible legal authority that tells us just the opposite. You will hear that it doesn't really turn the military into a domestic police force, but that clearly isn't the case.
Most of all, you will hear that we must do this to be safe, when the opposite is true. We can never be safe without our liberties, and this bill continues the decade-long campaign to destroy those liberties.
This bill goes far beyond the authorization for the use of military force. That resolution authorized ``all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons the President determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons.''
This bill is not limited to those responsible for the September 11 attacks and those who aided or harbored them. It includes anyone who ``substantially supported'' al Qaeda and the Taliban or ``associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.'' It is not clear what is meant by ``substantially supported'' or what it takes to be ``associated'' with someone who ``substantially supported'' them. It refers to any ``belligerent act'' or someone who has ``directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.'' It doesn't, as does our criminal law, say ``material support,'' so we really don't know whether that support could be merely a speech, or an article, or something else.
So let's not pretend that this is just the same as the AUMF. If it were, there would be no need to pass this law; we have it already. Courts, in reading legislation, operate on the very sensible assumption that Congress doesn't write surplus language, that it must have intended to do something. Here it is pretty clear that we are expanding the reach of the AUMF beyond the 9/11 perpetrators and those who aided and harbored them. Whoever it reaches--and we don't know--but whoever it reaches, the government would have the authority to lock them up without trial until ``the end of hostilities,'' which, given how broadly the AUMF has been used to justify actions far from Afghanistan, might mean forever.
And who will be taken out of the civilian justice system and imprisoned forever without a trial? The bill says anyone who ``is determined'' to be covered by the statute. It doesn't say determined by whom or what protections there are to ensure that an innocent person doesn't disappear into a military prison. That's not America.
We also need to be clear that the so-called ``Feinstein amendment'' does not really provide the protection its sponsor intended to provide. The Feinstein amendment says that ``nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.''
So what are ``existing law and authorities''? As former FBI Director William Sessions has recently written: ``The provision does not limit such detention authority to people captured on the battlefield. The reality is that current law on the scope of such executive authority is unsettled.'' Director Sessions goes on to point out that the two cases where the Supreme Court might have decided the question of detaining a U.S. citizen or a legal permanent resident, the U.S. claimed that the President had the authority--the administration claimed that the President had the authority to detain a suspected terrorist captured within the United States indefinitely without charge or trial.
In both these cases, Padilla and al-Mari, the government changed course and decided to try them in civilian courts in order to avoid a Supreme Court ruling on that question, and that question remains undetermined.
So when the Feinstein amendment references ``existing law,'' you should not assume that means that current law clearly deprives the President of this dangerous power. I hope it does, but it is still, legally, an open question. We should ensure that our liberty is protected and not leave that question to some future court, and we should certainly not enact a law codifying--and that's what this law does, it codifies, it puts into law terrifying claims of power made by Presidents but never approved by the courts or, until now, by the Congress. And that's the fundamental reason we should reject this bill.
We must take great care. Our liberties are too precious to be cast aside in times of peril and fear. We have the tools to deal with those who would attack us.
I yield myself an additional 30 seconds.
We do not need to do this. We should not do this. And because of this momentous challenge to one of the founding principles of the United States--that no person may be deprived of his liberty without due process of law--this bill must be rejected.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers), the distinguished ranking member of the Judiciary Committee.
(Mr. CONYERS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Johnson).
I yield the gentleman an additional minute.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentlelady from Guam (Ms. Bordallo).
I yield the gentlelady an additional 30 seconds.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I will reserve until it is time to close.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, we are told, and this seems to be one of the
principle issues in the debate today, that this bill, with reference to the detention and security provisions, merely codifies existing law. Some of us say no, it doesn't codify existing law; it codifies claims of power by the last two administrations that have not been confirmed by the courts--by some courts, but not by the Supreme Court. Rather terrifying claims of power, claims of the right to put Americans in jail indefinitely without a trial even in the United States.
Now, I can cite specifics here. The text, for example, says very specifically that Congress affirms the authority of the President, includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons pending disposition under the law of war, and then expands the definition of covered persons to people not implicated or supporting or harboring people implicated in 9/11 for the first time.
And then we have a provision that says nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the authorization for use of military force.
Well, that directly contradicts what I just read, which is a very specific provision. And since the rules of statutory construction always say that the specific controls the general, this provision, frankly, insofar as it contradicts the first, is meaningless. It provides no protection whatsoever. The same is true of the Feinstein amendment, for similar reasons.
Now, we have disagreement we heard on the floor today, but that reflects the disagreement in the country at large. We have many law enforcement people, many legal scholars disagree on what this language means. The President's chief counterterrorism advisor, John Brennan, said that the bill mandates military custody for a certain class of terrorism suspects, and since it would apply to individuals inside the U.S.--which we have heard denied on the floor but the President's counterterrorism advisor thinks it does--it would be inconsistent with the fundamental principle that our military does not patrol our streets.
And we have many generals, including a former Commandant of the Marine Corps, saying that this is a terrible expansion and change of existing law.
Now the fact of whether it simply codifies existing law or further restricts our liberties in unprecedented ways is unclear. That my friends here can say it only codifies existing law, and I can say and all of these other people--experts, legal experts, military people, counterterrorism experts--can say it goes way beyond existing law, shows why it is dangerous to have this kind of provision affecting fundamental rights and civil liberties in a defense authorization bill which is admirable in many other ways.
The Armed Services Committee is not the proper place to consider questions of civil liberties and legal rights, and certainly not a conference report. All these questions should have been considered in hearings. The Judiciary Committee in both Houses, frankly, should have held hearings. We should have called in the counterterrorism experts, we should have called in the legal scholars, we should have called in the statutory scholars and asked: What does this provision mean? How should it be changed? Does this provision contradict that provision, and what does it really mean? Does it go beyond existing law, and, if so, how can we change that?
In legislation like this, there should be hearings and testimony and proper debate and consideration.
Now, we can still fix this. If we defeat this bill now, we can then take this provision out of the bill, and pass the bill without this provision in a couple of days. We are going to be here. There is no reason we shouldn't do that. And then next year--which is only a couple of weeks away--give proper consideration to these detention provisions if people feel a need to pass them. We should not do such fundamental changes on the fly in a conference report with one hour of debate, no proper committee consideration, no public hearings, and considerable disagreement among scholars and judges and counterterrorism experts and military experts as to what this language means and what it does.
The true answer is that nobody on this floor can be 100 percent certain what this does. And when you are dealing with our fundamental liberties, that should say don't pass it. So I urge my colleagues to defeat the bill. We can then take this out of the bill, take the bill up on the floor again in a couple of days, and that's the safe way to safeguard our liberties and to do what we have to do for our military security.
I yield back the balance of my time.