Mr. Speaker, before I speak, I want to ask a parliamentary inquiry. In the previous voice vote, the Speaker said the ``ayes'' have it. From visual inspection, it appeared that there were more ``no'' Congressmen on the floor than ``aye''…
Mr. Speaker, before I speak, I want to ask a parliamentary inquiry.
In the previous voice vote, the Speaker said the ``ayes'' have it. From visual inspection, it appeared that there were more ``no'' Congressmen on the floor than ``aye'' Congressmen. My parliamentary inquiry is:
Under the rules of the House, is it possible to ask for a show of hands without violating House rules or without asking for unanimous consent?
Further parliamentary inquiry.
If a Member on the floor at the time the Chair calls the question feels the Chair called the question erroneously, then that Member would be required to ask for a rollcall vote. Is that your remedy?
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 5 minutes.
Let me start out by stating that the majority is trying to fix a problem that I do not think really exists. We have sent out 33 million coupons: 22 million of those coupons have been redeemed, and 11 million coupons are outstanding. The outstanding coupons are being redeemed, I think, by about 500,000 a week, something like that. In my opinion, you could keep the hard date and not have a problem, but if you think there is a problem, it is not from lack of money.
We have appropriated $1.3 billion. About half of that is still in the Treasury, but as I pointed out before, it cannot be released for additional coupons because they assume that 100 percent of the coupons are going to be redeemed. So what this means is the redemption rate is only about 52 percent. Once you send out a coupon, you have to wait for 90 days until it is either redeemed or until it expires before you can release an additional coupon.
If we really, really think that we need to do something, the simple thing to do is not appropriate but to authorize $250 million at $40 a coupon box. That is $240 million. You have authorized enough money to send out coupons, however many you can send, to these 6.5 million Nielsen household families that my good friend from Virginia talks about. Yet the majority has chosen not to do that. They have insisted that we have to delay the program.
So point one is: We have 33 million coupons that have been sent out. Twenty-two million have been redeemed. Eleven million are outstanding. If you want to eliminate the line, you authorize another $250 million so you can send out the other coupons. You could also just say you do not need a coupon. As my good friend from Nebraska has pointed out, it is not the lack of converter boxes. You can go to any electronic store in America and find the converter box. We could just say, ``If you have not gotten a converter box, go get one.'' There is no means test. Under the law, every household in America is entitled to two converter boxes. Go get them. Pay for them. Send us the receipt. The Treasury will pay you your money. You could do that.
My good friend talks about the technical problems. Well, I am going to educate the country right now on the technical problems. Here is how to do it: First, get the converter box. Second, take it out of the box. Third, plug it in. Fourth, hook it up by cable to your TV set or to your antenna. Fifth, turn it on. Sixth, if you have a remote control, hit the scan button. Seventh, make sure that you tune your TV to channel 3.
What is technical about that? It works.
Eighth, if you do all of that and it does not work, call whomever you bought the converter box from. They will tell you, and they will walk you through it. If you are a senior citizen, in most States, you can dial 211, and they will even send somebody out to your house to make sure that it is plugged in, that it is hooked up, that it is turned on, that it is on channel 3, and that you hit the scan button. Now, that is not all that high-tech. If a Texas Aggie like me can understand it, I think the country can understand it.
Next, I want to point out, even though we are delaying this until June 12 if this bill becomes law, according to the acting chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, 61 percent of the television stations in America are going to go ahead and convert to digital. One hundred forty-three television stations already have converted, and in those areas where they have converted, I am not aware that there has been a huge problem.
As Cliff Stearns pointed out earlier in the rules debate, they did a pilot program down in North Carolina, and it was 99 percent effective. Regarding the time that they converted over, they had a handful of concerns down there to see if it would work.
So we have a situation here where we have had a hard date on the books since September of 2005. That hard date is February 17. Every broadcaster in America is ready to go; 143 three stations have already converted. Up to 61 percent of the remaining 1,000-some-odd stations say they are probably going to convert. The acting chairman says that, before June 12, probably 90 percent will. Now, to be fair, Acting Chairman Cox does say he supports the legislation that Mr. Boucher is bringing to the floor. He does support the delay.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
I would like to yield 3 minutes to the ranking member of the Telecommunications Subcommittee, Mr. Stearns of Florida.
I'd like to give 3 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Upton).
I give the gentleman 1 additional minute.
I'd like to yield 3 minutes to a member of the committee, Mr. Terry of Nebraska.
Mr. Speaker, I yield the gentleman an additional 1 minute.
Can I inquire as to the time remaining on each side, please, Mr. Speaker?
I would like to yield 3 minutes to the distinguished former ranking member of the Ag Committee and the former chairman of that committee, Mr. Goodlatte of Virginia.
(Mr. GOODLATTE asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I would like to make a parliamentary inquiry.
I have just been informed that my friends on the majority side want to go to the White House for the SCHIP signing ceremony and we have to finish the debate in the next 10 minutes. What does ``finish the debate'' mean? Actually call for a rollcall vote in the next 10 minutes, or actually have the vote finished in the next 10 minutes?
I've got a parliamentary inquiry. I don't know how to address this.
If the Chair would advise, then I will address it in the appropriate way.
That's your answer?
Then I would ask unanimous consent for an additional 3 minutes, equally divided, to engage in a dialogue with the distinguished Member from Virginia who's controlling the time on the majority side.
If we accept unanimous consent that we have 3 minutes equally divided.
Further parliamentary inquiry.
Since when has it been the rules of the House that the minority cannot ask a unanimous consent request? When did that rule get changed? We're fixing to have a real problem here.
Now the majority can object to unanimous consent, but I at least have the right to offer a unanimous consent request.
Parliamentary inquiry.
What are the limits of a unanimous consent request? Unanimous consent means it requires unanimous consent of the House.
I asked for a unanimous consent request for 3 additional minutes. What rule did I violate of the House in asking for a unanimous consent request as a member of the minority?
So the minority has to be recognized to make the unanimous consent request?
I reserve my time.
If the gentleman will yield.
I have two additional speakers plus myself to close, and that would probably take 8 minutes, but I could do it in less.
I am just trying to facilitate the majority's request to go to the White House. Trying to be a good guy. I have now been muzzled on the House floor. We may decide to stay here all night.
We will expedite things on this side. We won't use all of our time.
I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Walden).
I yield 2 minutes to the gentlelady from Tennessee (Mrs. Blackburn).
I yield back the balance of my time, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I have a motion to commit at the desk.
I am in its current form.
Mr. Speaker, I will try to make this as succinct as possible. The motion to commit before us says that notwithstanding any other provision in the bill that is before us, those stations that have spectrum that is going to be used by public safety officials and first responders have to relinquish that spectrum on February 17. If there's any station whose spectrum is adjacent to the public safety spectrum that would interfere with the public safety spectrum, those stations also have to relinquish their spectrum on February 17.
So what this motion to commit does is simply say that for first responders and public safety officials who have been waiting patiently for almost 7 years, they will get their spectrum on February 18. That is all it does.
I would point out that it's been brought to my attention that the entire State of Hawaii has been digital now for an entire month. They went digital to protect migrating birds who would be interfered with if they waited until February 17 to move one or two particular transmitters.
So, in the State of Hawaii, they have been all digital for a month, and there's been no problem; 143 stations on the mainland have already gone digital. There has been no problem.
The Acting FCC Chairman says that about 60 percent, and maybe as many as 90 percent of the TV stations, are going to go digital between February 17 and June 12. So I don't think there's a reason for the delay. But the motion to commit simply says that if we are going to pass the underlying bill, let's at least put the first responders at the front of the line to go ahead and get their spectrum on February 18.
With that, I would yield to the gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Walden) in support of the motion to commit.