Waiving Points Of Order Against Conference Report On H.R. 2115, Vision
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to respond to some of the points that have been raised on this particular rule. Having participated in the development of this legislation on this conference report, I am familiar with some of the details that I…
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to respond to some of the points that have been raised on this particular rule. Having participated in the development of this legislation on this conference report, I am familiar with some of the details that I think we should, again, separate fact from fiction.
First of all, the conference did meet. I have a copy of the transcript of the conference. Let me say, first of all, in the development of the bill, I have heard comments about this not being a bipartisan effort. I can say that I have been in the Congress for 11 years. And I was in the minority, and I saw how things operated in an oppressed fashion, being part of the minority I said that would never happen when I was given the opportunity to be in a leadership position.
So I conducted more hearings on the reauthorization of AIR-21, FAA reauthorization, than we did on AIR-21's original hearings. And I have a list of all of the hearings that we conducted. I went into the home district of the ranking member and conducted a hearing. I can tell you with every single issue in this piece of legislation, the minority was consulted.
The chairman of the committee, the gentleman from Alaska (Mr. Young), just got up and told you that much of this legislation, in fact, is the work product of the minority. Opportunities I could not have dreamed of when I was in the minority.
So to say that somehow this has been unfairly conducted, or some opportunity not given, is not correct. It is not factual.
Then we get to the point of the conference. A conference was held and the major issue, there has only been one point of contention on this legislation from the beginning. That is the question of the contract towers. We held a hearing and we had an actual vote on the issue.
Here is the vote. Here is the transcript. Let me read: ``Mr. Oberstar. Mr. Chairman, if I am recognized for the purpose of a motion, I move to adopt the language I have referenced with respect to the language of air traffic control privatization and the air traffic control tower language.'' There was a vote and they lost.
We put in the provision 69 towers. It was done in an open meeting. They were given an opportunity for a vote. This is the vote.
Mr. Speaker at this point I will insert this into the Record.
Mr. Oberstar. Mr. Chairman, if I am recognized for the
purpose of a motion, I move to adopt the language I have
referenced with respect to the language on air traffic
control privatization and the air traffic control tower
language.
Mr. Young. On the House side, all in favor, signify by
saying aye.
All opposed, signify by saying no.
The noes have it.
So this was done in fairness.
Now, I do not remember too many conference reports that have been filed and been out there. We filed this the July 24. The conference has been out there. And we would have taken this up the week that we left, but we did not have time on the floor.
And in the meantime, NATCA has spent, I am told, I do not know if this is accurate, but I am told $6 to $7 million in a campaign of disinformation to take this provision out. Now, what we have done is we won in an open conference, and now we have recommitted the bill and we have agreed to take out the objectionable provision. So we lost. We gave again to the side to take out the provision, and they still are not happy. They say they are not being treated fairly.
We had a vote, we had an open conference, and we have taken out the issue of contention. All the other issues, every issue, was debated, every issue was discussed in hearings. And I have copies of all the hearings. I would be glad to have them made part of the Record.
So, again, the question of unfairness is unfair. Let me say to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell) who just spoke, and I have the greatest respect for the gentleman, the planes that landed September 11 that the FAA brought down, half the towers in the country, almost half the towers in the country, 219 are contract towers. They are supervised by the Federal Aviation Administration. They are managed by private contractors. So on September 11, those people performed well.
The issue of the 69 towers, the 69 towers we did not pick out of the vacuum, out of the sky to put in the bill to look at for possible conversion to contract towers. Those FAA towers were examined in the year 2000 by the Inspector General. Not by the CBO, not by some partisan group, but by the Inspector General.
The Inspector General looked at those towers. He compared them in 2000 and found that the all FAA towers had 2.5 times more safety errors than their counterparts, the contract towers. And the cost was substantially more.
This did not satisfy the union, so they asked for another restudy. So we asked for a restudy requested by NATCA. They reviewed it in 2002 and 2003. Here is the report. In the report they said you did not do the right comparison. You have to compare the flights, the number of flights, hours of operation. So they did that. And they just completed that. You know what? An even more exact comparison found, that there is five times the error rate in the FAA towers. So they are less safe. And they cost, look at it, the report, an average of 12 of them, $917,000 more to run.
So, we have taken out the provision that was objectionable to the other side, and they still are not happy. This reminds me of that song, the Hokie Pokie: You put your right foot in. What else can we do?
So we are here today, folks, to stop the Hokie Pokie. This is very serious because our aviation system depends on it. Our improvements of our airports depend on it, and that is in this legislation. The security improvements depend on it, and many of our airports are lacking those security improvements. They are being held up because this bill is not passing.
Essential air service to our small and rural communities, never before have we produced a piece of legislation that will do more to expand air service with an aviation system that now has been under such duress that we have nursed it back. This will do more of the job to create employments and opportunities for all Americans.
So the argument that we have not given a fair opportunity to the other side is bogus. The argument that is trying to be posed here today that we somehow did something in the dark, without consultation, here is the record. This is the record. We have been fair. We have been open. We have even acquiesced to their number one demand and to what the union has spent $7 million on in an unprecedented campaign of lies and distortion and misinformation, so we can move this legislation forward, so we can help our ailing aviation industry.
Mr. Speaker, as we conclude the debate on this rule, again I urge my colleagues to pass the rule. We have tried to be fair in this process. I have tried to be fair. There is one issue. I mean we can talk about a host of other issues, and in this system of 435 Members, I have over 40 Members on the subcommittee. There are over 70 on the full Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. We all know that we all do not get all of our ways.
We heard the gentlewoman from the District of Columbia (Ms. Norton) give a very eloquent reminder of her contributions and our working together. This bill does represent 99.9 percent of us working together to solve issues and move our aviation industry forward.
It does boil down to, unfortunately, this one issue that has divided us. We have acquiesced to the other side. We did put in 69 towers out of the 71 towers identified.
The two from Alaska, and please do not pick on my chairman, the gentleman from Alaska (Mr. Young), he represents an area that is just unbelievable. You have to go see Alaska to believe it. It takes 3\1/2\ hours by jet from one end of the State to the other. And the two towers that were named in this report, first of all, the gentleman from Alaska (Mr. Young) has probably more contract towers than any 10 States put together, but the two that were mentioned in this, one is being converted to a capstone, that is the Juneau, Alaska, tower; and the other one, if you go and look at the Anchorage tower, it is quite unique. It has a combination of military, private sector, and FAA operations. So they really do not fit into this program. And that is why that was exempted. But what we have done here is we have taken out all 69.
Now, yes, I offered if anyone wanted to read this report that says that a contract tower which is FAA supervised and privately managed is 4\1/2\ times safer, really it has 4\1/2\ times less error than an all- FAA tower and it costs less. Heaven forbid in Congress we should deal with saving the taxpayer money and have something that is safer and costs less, like this report identifies. I suggested we give the other side the opportunity, but they do not want to do that. I said I will give that opportunity. If people want to do that, fine.
The conference participants really have decided what the issue was. There is one issue. Here is the record. So it has, in fact, boiled down to that. We have taken out the 69 towers from any potential of privatization. There is no mention of privatization in this bill. We gave them basically what they want, and they are still not happy. So, again, it boils down to a vote. We have to vote on this measure.
Again, the question of the executive order, President Clinton, for 7 years and 9 months practically, had the ability to look at any of these towers. He made some of them private with contract arrangements, and then he changed it. We know why he changed it, a huge amount of money, look at the record, you see what happens in campaigns and elections; and this President changed it back to where it was where President Clinton had it.
And this is the safest system. We have 219 contract towers in the United States. Almost half of the towers in the United States are contract towers, and they are safe. And they also helped in taking down the planes safely on September 11. So do not bash the current system.
That is what we are asking for, plus all the good things that we have
worked together on to make this a better piece of legislation for our country and our American aviation system.