Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman form Maryland (Mr. Hoyer). Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time. Amendment Offered by Mr. Frelinghuysen Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in…
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman form Maryland (Mr. Hoyer).
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Frelinghuysen
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition even though I am not opposed to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, very briefly, this is one of those issues that really gets you angry. Both sides believe that people should play by the rules, and what you have are people not playing by the rules. People in my district, people in Ms. DeLauro's district and people in Mr. Crenshaw's district have to pay their taxes and pay their taxes where they live. They don't have the option of doing these kinds of things. For me, it is not only a legislative issue but a personal issue--the fact that these folks continue to get away with this kind of a situation.
This is an issue that Ms. DeLauro has been working on for years. It is one that she deserves a lot of credit for, and that is why we have to thank her for it.
I would like to take this opportunity to yield the balance of my time to the gentlewoman from Connecticut (Ms. DeLauro).
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Maffei) for the purpose of a colloquy.
I thank the gentleman.
The gentleman is seeking to bring the salaries and expense of the courts of appeals, district courts, and other judicial services up to an appropriate level in part, as he mentioned, to address a tragic incident that took place in his district.
It highlights the problems the judiciary suffered while under sequestration and with the lower funding levels that agencies in the executive branch have also had to face.
We will work with the gentleman, the majority, and with the judiciary, as we do every year, to ensure that we can meet their funding needs and address the gentleman's concerns.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, this has very little to do with a bowling alley. This is not even about the picture of Richard Nixon fully dressed, bowling at the White House. This is about this desire of Republicans and the Tea Party segment of Republicans, in some cases, to make Barack Obama seem like an illegitimate President.
The legitimacy of his Presidency has been questioned on and on. There were questions about his birthplace. There were questions about what he said his religion was. There were questions about whether he was old enough to be President. There have been questions about everything. So now, these petty attacks continue.
This is a nonissue. This is a nonstarter. First of all, this was about fixing up a bowling alley that has been there forever. I don't think the American public, with all due respect to the people in the gentleman's district, really spend a lot of time concerned about the fact that all Presidents--and I mean all Presidents--are not allowed just to pick up and go to a local place to have a beer or bowl a game of bowling or whatever. So this is not an issue that we should be dealing with.
But what is important about it is that GSA, furthermore, has canceled the project. The Federal contractor posting was pulled on July 9. So I am sure that the other side knows that this no longer is an issue, but it continues to be something that sounds good. I am sure people will be writing about it tonight, that the bowling alley was going to be built at the White House. No. This was an existing one that was going to be refurbished. That contract has been pulled back. That idea has been pulled back.
There just continues to be more and more and more of this petty attack on a President. And I think it is not so
much that he was elected President, which caused a lot of pain for a lot of people, but the fact that he was reelected. That really has turned a lot of people to a point where they will come up with anything.
So by tonight, we may see even the plumbing at the White House attacked, as we did a couple of years ago. And at that time, I remarked that there hadn't been any plumbers at the White House since the Nixon administration, and that was the truth. We have leaks. We have a White House that needs fixing, and this Congress wastes time on these kinds of issues.
So I would just hope that the gentleman would pull his amendment. If he doesn't, then I would hope we could defeat the amendment because it is just silly and not necessary at all.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, just in closing, it is silly. And I am not suggesting the gentleman is silly.
We spend money, large amounts of money on the military and on other things that we never, ever, ever attack. We send money overseas in misguided military situations, and we don't complain about that. But it makes good headlines to say that today we stopped the bowling alley from being built at the White House. ``Refurbished'' was the question at hand, and it has been pulled back since July 9. There is no plan whatsoever to do anything with the existing old, decrepit bowling alley at the White House.
So this is not a gutter ball. This is not a strike for anyone. This is just more of their silliness that we will see for the next 24 hours.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, there are a couple of other speakers, so I will be very brief.
This really has very little to do with the substance that we are talking about, or that appears to be marijuana. It is about the fact that, whether we like it or not, there are States that have already legalized either recreational use, in two cases, or medical use in 22 States, and those situations require banking decisions and banking abilities. Jack Lew, Secretary of the Treasury, said at our hearing:
Without any guidance there will be a proliferation of cash-
only businesses, and that would make it impossible to see
when there are actions going on that violate both Federal and
State law.
So an attack on the use of marijuana may be misleading here because what we are doing is really ignoring the banking aspect of this and the fact that there have to be some regulations and some issues put in place to do the right thing and to uphold the law, the banking laws and other laws.
With that, I would like to yield to the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Perlmutter).
Mr. Chairman, I yield the remainder of my time to the gentleman from California (Mr. Sherman).
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I get tired of saying this, but it has to be said. I realize that the other side's desire is to bring the IRS down to nothing. It is a constitutional question. We have the power to collect taxes. One would argue that we must have a department that collects taxes.
They may not always be the department--the agency--we want them to be. Both sides, whether one believes it or not, were outraged that something wrong might have been done, but to suggest and paint with a broad brush the whole IRS and say that everyone there at the senior level is not worthy of a bonus or not worthy of our respect is really to do a disservice to public service employees. These folks do a job. They do a job on a daily basis.
Are there problems with the IRS? There have always been problems at the IRS. Has the IRS been an agency that is loved by the American public? No, because we as Americans would love somehow to do everything we need to do, but have taxes that are either very low or nonexistent.
That is not a knock on us. We would all rather pay less taxes than we pay, but we continuously just spend time knocking and knocking. If you measure the time that we have spent on this bill so far and you measure how much of that time has been allocated to the IRS and to bringing it down, not to helping it in any way, not to coming up with any solutions--the whole argument has been they did something wrong, we are going to punish them.
We are not talking about children. We are not talking about a foreign government that attacked us. We are talking about an agency that might not have done everything the way we want them to do it, and therefore, we have to use our resources, our power, and our legislative ability to make them do a better job, to help them along the way, not to destroy them.
So here we are saying if you have executives at the higher level that are doing a good job, you can't help them in any way. You have to ignore that.
Now, we talk about morale. We talk about morale with our staff. We talk about morale with our Membership. Why do we have so many Members who are retiring?
If you asked them, a lot of them are retiring because we don't get along the way we used to or maybe because we spend so much time on wasteful issues.
So we can't paint with a brush the whole IRS. We have to find a way to help, to make them a better agency--yes, to use tough love.
Absolutely, I will be the first one to agree to that and to join the majority in doing that, but this whole word of punishing of a worthless institution, of a corrupt institution, of an institution that does not follow the law, that is not true, that is not fair, and that is not correct.
That is why this amendment is misguided, and it may do just the opposite, like so many of these amendments. By punishing, you bring down morale, and you bring down the support of those who could help us do a better job at the IRS like we all would like.
I hoped that we would get Mr. Gosar to withdraw his amendment, but his facial expression tells me that I am crazy in asking that question. You don't have to agree that I am crazy in asking that question, but I think we should defeat this amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, the gentleman is primarily concerned with records management at the IRS, which does not surprise us--the IRS again. However, this bill already contains a provision preventing the use of funds by the IRS to violate these very same sections of the code. In other words, the bill that we are debating today, the full bill, already accomplishes what the gentleman seeks to do. Every agency is already required to follow Federal records management law, so this amendment seems particularly unnecessary.
I realize Members on the other side want to continue to issue press releases stating how tough they are on the IRS, but there is no need to restate current law. I think that this one is different in the sense that while other amendments that I may not approve of or support speak to an issue that hasn't been spoken to before or repeat something we have dealt with before, this one speaks to an issue that Mr. Crenshaw already took care of in the bill.
That is my opposition to it, and that is why I think the amendment is unnecessary.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the gentleman's amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against the amendment because it proposes to change existing law and constitutes legislation in an appropriation bill and, therefore, violates clause 2 of rule XXI.
The rule states in pertinent part:
``An amendment to a general appropriation bill shall not be in order if changing existing law.''
It also adds a requirement on D.C. that it doesn't add anywhere else. It imposes additional duties by requiring law enforcement or the D.C. Council to determine what is prohibited by Federal law before they are allowed to legislate.
We know that folks like to sound good on certain issues by legislating from here, but the city council should not be asked to incur these extra duties that they don't have now.
I ask for a ruling from the Chair.
I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chair, I think the mistake we are making here is the one we have been making all day. Not only is it targeted only at the IRS, which seems to be the desire to continue to do this for the next 24 hours or for so long as this bill lasts, but secondly, it paints it with a wide brush. If you say no conferences of this type or if you limit the number of conferences, okay, we could discuss that; but to say that one agency in the Federal Government cannot have any kind of conferences, none at all--zero, nada--that really speaks to just a continuous desire to destroy the IRS.
Now, there were issues concerning the conferences. There were issues concerning the conferences for other agencies. We have dealt with that. We can deal with this. But to say no conferences at all is to suggest that an agency cannot operate the way it needs to at times.
So I think that this is just another attack on the IRS. It makes for good headlines, even at this time of night. I think it is the wrong thing to do, and I would hope that we could oppose it or that the gentleman will withdraw the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I also rise in opposition to this amendment. The only difference here, Mr. Chairman, is that we are not attacking the IRS. Now we are attacking the Financial Services Subcommittee. The fact of life is that this committee took the biggest hit of any subcommittee in the House.
And while I may disagree with how some of the bill came out, I have made it clear to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Crenshaw) that what I disagree with the most are the riders and the allocation. With a different allocation, we would have had a different bill. So to now cut 1 percent from the committee that took the biggest hit is really to just to try to cripple the bill completely, and it serves no purpose other than to be able to say that you cut it.
Now, it would be nice to see if these kinds of things were mean, what happened on the military budget every so often, but we are not going to see that. We are only going to see it on bills like this one, which really services a lot of people. I think that the chairman is right. I join him in opposing this amendment, and I hope that it will be defeated.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, this is really a mean amendment to single out one city, one city that is hurting; to single out labor when, in fact, it is not labor, but it is the people that have those pension plans and now may not have a pension plan, to single them out.
With all due respect to the gentlewoman, I am sure there have been many instances throughout history and in recent years when your area, your State, has been helped by Federal dollars when it was hurting, and we all got together and did that, be it a flood, be it a fire, be it a natural disaster. Whatever it may be, we came together to help. Detroit has its problems, and Detroit might have made some mistakes. But to single it out in an amendment and to say that we cannot help in any way, shape, or form is really mean, mean-spirited and wrong.
It may look good to single an urban center out. It may look good to single out a place that is hurting. But that is not the American way. The American way, I can tell you, as a New Yorker, when New York was hurting, people came to its aid. When we were attacked, we came to its aid.
Sure, this is different, but Detroit, it's hurting right now. And to single it out on this House floor at 10 minutes to 8, at this time, to single it out as not being worthy of Federal help, is really just wrong. And then to take the opportunity to attack organized labor by suggesting that somehow they are to blame and therefore they should not get any help is also mean-spirited.
So I have seen, in the time that I have been here, difficult amendments. But this one is one that really takes the cake. Mr. Chairman, Republicans
have supported bailing out banks and financial institutions that were deemed too large to fail. We were all for saving the auto industry, and I was for it, too. We were all for making sure that big institutions did not fail. And while I questioned it, many of us went along with it. And here to single out Detroit at its worst moment when it is hurting like no city has hurt in a long time is just the wrong thing to do.
If this is what the gentlewoman wants to do, I guess there is no way to stop her, but I would really wish that she would take a moment to think about this before she goes any further with this.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to reserve a point of order mainly because we haven't seen this text or the amendment until this very moment. In fact, we still haven't seen it.
First, I wish to withdraw my point of order, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
I do have, and I know it comes at a different time, but I do have letters from different groups opposing the amendment from the National League of Cities, National Association of Counties, National Association of Telecommunications Officers and Advisors, including the gentleman who gets credit for inventing the Internet, and I am not talking about Vice President Gore, I am speaking about someone else.
National League of Cities, National Association of
Counties, National Association of Telecommunications
Officers and Advisors
July 15, 2014.
U.S. House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Representative: The National League of Cities (NLC),
the National Association of Counties (NACo), and the National
Association of Telecommunications Officers and Advisors
(NATOA) strongly urges you to oppose any amendment to HR 5016
that would hamstring the Federal Communications Commission
(FCC) from taking any action on--indeed, even discussing--the
issue of state laws that prohibit or restrict public and
public/private broadband projects. It is clear that such laws
harm both the public and private sectors, stifle economic
growth, prevent the creation or retention of thousands of
jobs, and hamper work force development.
The United States must compete in a global economy in which
affordable access to advanced communications networks is
playing an increasingly significant role. As the FCC noted in
challenging broadband providers and state and municipal
community leaders to come together to develop at least one
gigabit community in all 50 states by 2015: ``The U.S. needs
a critical mass of gigabit communities nationwide so that
innovators can develop next-generation applications and
services that will drive economic growth and global
competitiveness.'' This is especially true in rural America.
The private sector alone cannot enable the United States to
take full advantage of the opportunities that advanced
communications networks can create in virtually every area of
life. As a result, federal, state, and local efforts are
taking place across the Nation to deploy both private and
public broadband infrastructure to stimulate and support
economic development and job creation, especially in
economically distressed areas. But such efforts are being
thwarted in some areas by State laws that prohibit or
restrict municipalities from working with private broadband
providers, or developing themselves, if necessary, the
advanced broadband infrastructure that will stimulate local
businesses development, foster work force retraining, and
boost employment in economically underachieving areas.
Consistent with these expressions of national unity, public
entities across America are ready, willing, and able to do
their share to bring affordable high-capacity broadband
connectivity to all Americans. State barriers to public
broadband are counterproductive to the achievement of these
goals. Efforts to strip funding from the FCC to even discuss
this issue, let alone take action, are misplaced and wrong.
Please oppose any amendment to HR 5016 or any other measure
that could significantly impair community broadband
deployments or public/private partnerships.
Sincerely,
National League of Cities,
National Association of Counties,
National Association of Telecommunications Officers and
Advisors.
Whatever happened to localism or local control? This amendment means the Federal Government will tell every local citizen, mayor, and county council member that they may not act in their own best interests.
Any such amendment is an attack on the rights of individual citizens speaking through their local leaders to determine if their broadband needs are being met.
Congresswoman Blackburn only has to drive an hour and a half down Interstate 24 to Chattanooga to see where the city-owned electric utility owns a broadband network. It charges $70 per month, enough to cover expenses but affordable enough to attract businesses.
Her State passed a bill to prevent nearby towns from joining Chattanooga and to block other communities from doing themselves. Companies have moved jobs or expanded in Chattanooga after learning that the minimum connection speed on the city-owned network was faster than the maximum they had available at headquarters.
Preemption will not force anyone to do anything that the municipalities alone don't want to do. This is not about forcing States to do anything, but instead stopping States from choking grassroots competition and stopping States from blocking faster networks or new networks where none exist.
It may sound one way, but it is a total different interpretation that we have, and this amendment could really hurt--in fact, may even hurt the efforts that she claims she wants to put forth.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, it is interesting to note that Chairman Upton has legislation and has spoken out on this issue, and the whole issue here is to allow cities to do what they need to do without having the major cable companies and so on lobby the States and stop them from doing so.
Broadband is something that we need to expand--that may sound like a pun--to make it broader, not to make it limited. It should be available everywhere, and it should be available in every possible place--rural, suburban, inner city, in homes, in schools.
We have to build the infrastructure to make that happen. Again, I repeat, I really think that her intent is not being met by her amendment, and that is why I oppose it and hope we would all oppose it.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, there is a contradiction with what the gentlewoman says because, on one hand, she doesn't want government involved in localities, and on the other hand, she wants to tell localities how to act.
On the other hand, she doesn't want us to tell the Consumer Product Safety Commission how to act, so it becomes very confusing. This is an issue we should leave to the discretion of the Consumer Product Safety Commission. This is not something we should be micromanaging the CPSC on.
Furthermore, it is a proposed rule, and the CPSC is simply reviewing comments at this stage, and that is important to note. They are simply reviewing comments at this stage. We in this body should let the process of issuing rules play out, as is required in law, instead of cherry-picking where and when we want to interfere.
This is simply not an area of overregulation, since no regulation is yet in effect, so this amendment is unnecessary. I oppose the amendment, and I hope my colleagues will as well.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, this agency is one of the better agencies. Every so often, we read about baby seats and blankets and all kinds of issues that affect our communities and our daily lives.
We should stop trying to attack it, as some people do. I just think that this is not a good amendment and that it should be defeated.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.