Mr. President, this morning the Senate returns to work on its bill creating and saving millions of jobs. As the leader said, and we all know, our work has rarely been more urgent. Initial jobless claims have hit a 26-year high. I repeat:…
Mr. President, this morning the Senate returns to work on its bill creating and saving millions of jobs. As the leader said, and we all know, our work has rarely been more urgent.
Initial jobless claims have hit a 26-year high. I repeat: Initial jobless claims, 26-year high. Last week, 626,000 people, each of them mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, lost their jobs. That is two-thirds of the entire State of Montana--626,000 people in 1 week. The number of claims by people continuing to apply for unemployment benefits reached a new record. With 4.8 people applying for unemployment benefits, we need to respond. We need to complete this jobs bill.
This past November, our Nation conducted a historic and meaningful election. America voted for a new era. America voted for change. In keeping with the call of our new President, the Senate has, this week, conducted itself with levels of openness and accommodation not seen for years. I would like to underline that. This has been a very open Senate process. We have not seen this in a long time and I hope it continues and even grows. The managers have not filled the amendment tree. We have not sought to blur issues with second-degree amendments. No tree, no second-degree amendments. Senators have gotten votes on their amendments. The Senate has put in a long, full week and worked late nights. Yesterday, the Senate conducted six rollcall votes and adopted five amendments with voice votes and we considered and processed numerous other amendments.
We have now reached the point in this debate, in the adage familiar to most Senators, that everything has been said but not everyone has said it. I might underline that everything has been said many times but not everyone has said it. I now call on my colleagues to show restraint. I urge my colleagues to forgo offering amendments. I urge my colleagues to allow the Senate to bring this matter to a close.
Pending now are seven amendments: The underlying Finance- Appropriations substitute amendment; the Murray amendment, No. 110, to strengthen infrastructure investments; the Dodd amendment, No. 145, mitigating home foreclosures; the Coburn amendment, No. 176, on competitive bidding; the Udall amendment, No. 359, to expand the number of veterans eligible for the employment tax credit; the Coburn amendment, No. 309, on particular spending prohibitions; and the Sanders-Grassley amendment, No. 306, as modified, to require recipients of TARP funding to meet strict H-1B worker hiring standards.
I hope that in short order the Senate will be able to come to an arrangement that will allow us to process the remaining Coburn, Udall and Grassley-Sanders amendments. After that, I hope the Senate will be able to address amendments by Senators Feingold and Conrad as well as the pending Dodd amendment on our side, as well as equal numbers of amendments on the Republican side. Then I hope the Senate will be able to address amendments by Senators Wyden and Menendez, as well as an equal number of amendments on the Republican side.
After that, we will seek, as much as possible, to allow a fair system for the consideration of other Senators' amendments. We will address, first, amendments of Senators who are here and willing to offer their amendments. But I renew my call for Senators to resist the temptation to offer their amendments. We are getting to that point where it is becoming a point of diminishing returns. The amendments are coming to the point where they do not need to be offered on this bill at this time. This is just February. There will be plenty of other opportunities for Senators to offer amendments on other bills. We have to get this bill finished today. There will be a conference committee. The managers will work with Senators in the conference to address their concerns. Not everything needs to be said by everyone on the Senate floor today. I urge Senators to forbear offering their amendments as much as possible.
We will continue to try to give Senators notice of what will be coming up. Abraham Lincoln appealed to the ``better angels of our nature.'' I renew that appeal today. Let us work together today in the spirit of comity and cooperation that reflects the better angels of the Senate. Let us finish this bill today. I thank all Senators for their cooperation.
So we can work out an orderly procedure, I now suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the time between now and 11:30 be for debate only, to be equally divided and controlled between the two leaders or their designees.
Mr. President, the idea is then to have votes on pending amendments.
Well, obviously Senators can speak on those amendments, which includes the underlying bill. But I would hope we process those amendments and then do the next set of amendments after that.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
I renew my request and ask unanimous consent that the time between now and 11:30 be equally divided and controlled between the two leaders or their designees.
Mr. President, I object. We are under an agreement where we speak on both sides and offer amendments later. So I respectfully object.
I object.
Under the agreement, we are going to alternate sides for speakers. I want to ask the Senator from New Hampshire how much time she wishes to speak.
I yield 3 minutes to the Senator from New Hampshire.
Amendment No. 528
I object.
I yield 5 minutes to the Senator from North Dakota.
Mr. President, I yield the Senator 30 seconds.
Mr. President, I yield 7 minutes to the Senator from Hawaii.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the time for debate equally divided be extended until 12 noon and add in the other time to be equally divided, so on that basis, there is more on this side.
Mr. President, I yield 5 minutes to the Senator from New Mexico.
Mr. President, I yield 4 minutes to the Senator from Minnesota.
Mr. President, it is my understanding that we may have to put off votes until 1 o'clock. That is not determined yet, but there is a high probability of that. Around noon, we will ask for an agreement to speak for another hour.
That will be the case.
I object.
Mr. President, I want everybody to remember these two numbers: 99 percent, 79 percent; 99 percent, 79 percent. What are those two numbers? If you take the Finance Committee bill, the bill that is in this stimulus bill that the Senate Finance Committee wrote--the Senate Finance Committee wrote the tax portion of the underlying bill and also the aid to States portion.
Ninety-nine percent of the spending and the taxes combined in the Finance Committee portion of the bill will be spent out in the first 2 years. Ninety-nine percent of the Finance Committee bill will be spent in the first 2 years.
For those who didn't quite get it, it didn't quite compute, I will say it again. Ninety-nine percent of the Finance Committee bill is spent in the first 2 years--99 percent. Actually, if you want to break it down, it is a little more than that for taxes only because some reach to future years. Ninety-nine percent of the Finance Committee bill is spent in the first 2 years.
What is my authority on that? Some economists? It is the Joint Committee on Tax and CBO, if you look at their numbers and combine them, the Joint Committee on Tax and the Congressional Budget Office, that is what it calculates to: 99 percent of the Finance Committee bill is spent in the first 2 years, according to the Joint Committee on Tax and according to the CBO, combining the two.
That is my first figure, 99 percent. What is my second figure? Does anybody remember it? What was my second figure? It was 79 percent. What does 79 percent represent? Seventy-nine percent represents the total spending of this bill in the first 2 years. The total spending, if you take the Appropriations Committee and the Finance Committee and add them together--79 percent of the total spending--in this bill is in the first 2 years, 79 percent. Now, what is my authority? The Congressional Budget Office and the Joint Committee on Taxation. So I ask Senators to go look at the Joint Committee on Taxation data, go to the Congressional Budget Office data. It is right there.
There are a lot of allegations and a lot of statements that are made on the Senate floor by lots of Senators on both sides, and one of our goals, clearly, is to try to get the facts. One of our goals is to listen to the music as well as the words, to separate the wheat from the chaff, and to get to what is really going on. What are the right numbers?
Now, of course, no numbers are perfect, but what is close to being right or as close as we can tell as we seek the truth? I will tell you, the Joint Committee on Taxation is probably one of the most unbiased, most reputable bodies here. Now, some don't like their numbers. They wish their calculations would be different. But, clearly, they try their best. They do their best. It is a bipartisan organization that works for both bodies of Congress, and they work for both political parties. They work for the Congress. It is not biased.
The Congressional Budget Office is not biased, and the Joint Committee on Taxation is not biased. For those who are not familiar with Washington speak, the Joint Committee on Taxation is an independent professional group which advises the Congress on tax matters and does tax calculations for the Congress on tax matters. The Congressional Budget Office basically issues lots of reports and advises the Congress on spending items that are nontax items and calculations and so forth. Again, it is bipartisan. It serves both bodies--the Congressional Budget Office. It is a very reputable body, as is the Joint Committee on Taxation.
So, again, I want to repeat those numbers so it sinks in a little more. The Congressional Budget Office and the Joint Committee on Tax, add the figures together, 99 percent of the Finance Committee bill, which is a large portion of the bill--I think it is about 60 percent of the bill--is spent in the first 2 years. That is 99 percent--almost all in the first 2 years. If you take it all together, the Finance Committee bill and add in the appropriations portion of the bill, 79 percent--almost 80 percent or almost four-fifths--is spent in the first 2 years.
Now, Mr. President, we have to get moving. Our country is in deep, deep, deep trouble. The American people want us to do something responsible about all of this. We all know there are three parts to the problem. One is the credit crisis--that is, credit is all frozen; banks aren't lending--and there are lots of ways to address that. The second part of the problem is housing. We are struggling to get even more stimulus to housing. But a third major part of the problem is demand and spending. There is about a $1 trillion gap between our potential economy in America and the real economy--$1 trillion. If we don't address that gap between spending and demand, we are going to find ourselves in such deep difficulty, with so many jobs lost, it may be equal to the Great Depression. We are not there yet, clearly, but we could get pretty close if we don't take some pretty important actions here.
Now, I have heard all kinds of speeches on this matter, whether the roughly $800 billion stimulus package is right or not right. I have been in rooms with conservative economists and liberal economists and middle-of-the-road economists, and they all agree $800 billion is about right, and it is needed--and it is needed. Some may quibble about some parts, and there have been a lot of Senators on the floor, respectfully, Mr. President, who have been quibbling. They have not been seeing
the forest for the trees. But I submit, if we keep our eye on the ball and keep our eye on the forest, we can get this bill passed and get it passed pretty quickly.
I just want to urge those Senators who say not very much is being spent out in the first years to go look at the Joint Committee on Taxation and the Congressional Budget Office and do the calculations. Again, 99 percent of the Finance Committee package is spent in the first 2 years, and 79 percent of the total underlying bill is spent in the first 2 years. I think that is pretty good. It is not perfect, but it is pretty good.
Mr. President, I yield the floor, and I ask unanimous consent that the time during the quorum call, if there is a quorum call, be equally divided.
Frankly, I see the Senator from Tennessee is seeking recognition.
Mr. President, I wonder if anybody on our side is seeking time?
The Senator from Connecticut, Mr. Lieberman, seeks 5 minutes.
Would the Senator be OK with 2?
It is compromising toward the intentions of the other side.
Mr. President, I yield time to the Senator from Michigan, 5 minutes to the Senator from Michigan.
Mr. President, I apologize, I think Senator Lincoln was here earlier. I didn't turn around far enough.
Mr. President, 5 minutes to the Senator from----
Unless Senator Alexander seeks recognition. We want to go back and forth to even things out.
I yield to the Senator on his time, on Republican time.
I understand Senator Enzi has comments regarding the provisions for comparative clinical effectiveness research included in The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 which is being considered in the Senate this week.
I thank the Senator for his support of these principles. I agree with the Senator's summary of S. 3408, the Comparative Effectiveness Research Act of 2008, which would create a permanent institute to prioritize and provide for comparative clinical effectiveness research for the U.S. I support including short-term funds for such research in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. I applaud the Appropriations Committee for clarifying that research should evaluate comparative clinical effectiveness, not cost- effectiveness. And I agree that the $1.1 billion should be used consistently with the principles in S. 3408 from the 110th Congress. Senator Conrad and I plan to reintroduce our bill because we still need a long-term framework for this type of research in the U.S.
I thank Senator Feinstein for pointing that out. I agree. The coordinating council should look across agencies to coordinate resources and activities of the federal government with respect to comparative effectiveness research. Its charge should not go beyond that. The language of the bill could be clarified to make that point clear. And I will support clarification of it in conference.
Workforce training
I agree with my distinguished colleagues that as we work to reform our health care system it is important to consider how the health care workforce fits into these efforts. Creating a strong, well- trained workforce is a critical part of adequately addressing the needs of older adults and individuals with disabilities. An estimated 69 percent of people turning 65 years old will need some form of long-term assistance as they age. Most individuals that need long-term care services and supports prefer to receive assistance in their homes or communities. This demand and the need for direct care professionals will only grow as the baby boom population turns 65.
Various studies suggest present and future shortages of paraprofessionals and health care professionals. Effective recruitment and retention strategies are needed. Training programs should be designed that address the competencies required of a 21st century
workforce. As part of this effort we also should look at the skills of those currently delivering long term care services.
The purpose of health reform is to achieve a high-performing health system. Achieving this goal requires an investment in our health professional and paraprofessional workforce.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that at 1 p.m. today, the Senate proceed to vote in relation to the following amendments in the order listed; that no amendments
be in order to these amendments prior to the vote; with 2 minutes of debate prior to each vote, equally divided and controlled; with 10- minute vote limitations after the first vote in the sequence: Sanders amendment No. 330, as modified; Coburn amendment No. 309; Udall amendment No. 359; Coburn amendment No. 176.
Further, that upon disposition of the above-listed amendments, the Senate then consider the following amendments and that they be considered in rotating fashion back and forth to each side; that no amendments be in order to these amendments prior to a vote in relation to the amendments: Conrad-Graham No. 501; Dodd No. 145, and that when a vote is scheduled in relation to amendments Nos. 501 and 145, the vote would occur first on 501; Cantwell amendment No. 274, with the modification which is at the desk; Feingold amendment No. 485; Grassley amendment No. 297; Enzi amendment No. 293; Vitter amendment No. 107; Bunning amendment No. 531; Wyden amendment No. 468; and Thune amendment No. 538.
I thank my good friend from Mississippi for that kind statement.
Absolutely.
Mr. President, I suggest that we agree to 5 minutes in rotating fashion for each side and that Senator Kerry be first recognized after the votes.
I will say 10 minutes. I want to hold it to four speakers until we get a better handle on what is going on.
Mr. President, I yield 5 minutes to the Senator from Arkansas.
Mr. President, how much time is remaining?
Mr. President, I yield 4 minutes to the Senator from California.
Mr. President, I yield 1 additional minute.
Mr. President, in order to clarify some confusion that may exist as to what the proceedings are after the first group of votes, let me ask unanimous consent that the request I further propounded with respect to that period be vitiated. Instead, I ask unanimous consent that following the next group of votes, there be 20 minutes available, equally divided in the usual form, for debate only.
Mr. President, the Senator from Iowa questioned State aid provisions in our substitute so I wish to take a few moments to explain them. When our country was founded, there was a great debate about the roles of the Federal and State governments, and our Founding Fathers debated which should be more powerful. Should it be the States or the Federal Government? Which should retain what privileges and how to ensure an effective union of the States? Alexander Hamilton, the first Secretary of the Treasury, advocated for the Federal Government to buy the States' Revolutionary War debt. The idea was controversial, but the merits of the proposal have proven sound.
In the year 1790, there were two main reasons he suggested the Federal Government assume State debt. First, the Federal Government was in a better position to issue and sell bonds to satisfy the debt. Second, the assumption of State debt would serve to rally local economic interests to promote broader national goals.
Many things have changed since 1790, but some things remain the same. During recessionary periods, State revenue suffers. Unlike the Federal Government, States must balance their budgets. Just as in 1790, the Federal Government was still in a better position to assume the debt.
These difficult times also call for unity among the States. Every State is suffering, but we must band together to help those among us who are worse off. We need to hold back our personal interests and focus instead on our national interests.
In addition to the arguments set forth by Hamilton over 200 years ago, modern economists tell us that State fiscal relief is an effective means to stimulate the economy. Economists also advise that targeted relief to those most in need--not based on circumstances of States' own making but based on true measures of distress--is the best measure of distribution. The bill before us today provides much-needed relief to every State with a temporary increase in the Federal match rate for Medicaid expenses. The bill also provides additional aid targeted to States facing the most precarious fiscal situations, measured by an increase in unemployment. This temporary assistance will help States avoid having to make tough choices, like whether to make significant budget cuts or raise taxes, both of which could make this economic crisis worse.
It is important we strike a balance in this bill between spending too little and too much. Some of my colleagues are worried that we are spending beyond what is needed and will end up passing along too much debt to future generations. This package is significant, but the risk of doing too little has been overlooked. In fact, I think the risk of too little is worse than the risk of too much. During times of economic distress, Medicaid suffers from the blows of a one-two punch; that is, when State revenues are lowest, the demand for Medicaid is the highest. If we do not give States enough money, States won't be able to protect their Medicaid programs against the blows thrown by the economy. That means fewer services will be available to fewer people at a time when the need is increasing. We are talking about low-income health care. This is about people who are thrown off Medicaid because States are finding that is the best way to balance their budgets. That is not right.
Giving States more money than they need won't stimulate the economy. In order to stimulate the economy, this money must be spent quickly, and it must go toward job creation or protection of vulnerable populations. To be stimulative and get the economy moving again, State fiscal relief must prevent any exacerbation of an already bad situation. By preventing Medicaid cuts, this bill does that.
This bill makes sure we will not see a big increase in the number of Americans without health insurance. We must remember that having so many uninsured Americans is not without cost, let alone the personal tragedy. Instead, the cost of caring for the uninsured has shifted to the insured. It is in all our best interests to prevent more Americans from losing their health insurance. This package, I believe, has the right balance--it is not perfect, but it is pretty close--giving States enough support without giving them too much.
The State fiscal relief provisions will not eliminate State budgetary difficulties. That is for sure. But they will provide a cushion, not a full cushion but a partial cushion. This package will not fix everything, but it is a big step in the right direction.
While not all States have responded to the economic downturn in the same way, no State is immune to the impact of a national recession. Looking back on past recessionary periods, we can see that some States, often those with large commerce-based economies, feel the blow faster and earlier than others. The impact on States with commodity-based economies, on the other hand, is often delayed. The difference between commerce-based States and commodity-based States is more delay in commodity-based States. Because no two States will experience the impact of the recession at precisely the same time or to exactly the same extent, it is important the relief be targeted to those States that are most in need and when they need it.
In 1790, some States had already paid off their Revolutionary War debt. But it was important to the Nation as a whole that all States be relieved. On top of a generous across-the-board increase for all States, this package provides additional aid to those States with high unemployment. The basic formula is based upon the wealth of the State, but the bonus on top of it is based on unemployment.
If a State's unemployment continues to increase, the State may qualify for even more relief. Unemployment is an effective measure of a State's fiscal condition. Often when people lose their jobs, they also lose their health insurance. This places a higher demand on Medicaid. It is estimated that a 1-percent increase in unemployment increases enrollment in Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program by 1 million people. Let me repeat that. A 1-percent increase in unemployment increases enrollment in Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program by 1 million people. Increasing the FMAP percentages--that is the Federal share--is the quickest way to get relief to the States. In addition to preventing cuts to Medicaid, this aid will provide for much-needed economic activity. People will be more productive. Jobs will be saved. Industries that rely on and contribute to the strength of our health care system will remain sound. This provision will not only improve the health of Medicaid beneficiaries, but it will also improve the fiscal health of each State. This is a key element of any attempt to pull the national economy out of its recession.
We have done this before, and we know it is effective. In the year 2003, we provided $20 billion in State fiscal relief, evenly split between grants and an FMAP increase. That is the Federal Medicaid share. The FMAP increase proved successful in preventing planned Medicaid cuts and restoring some previous cutbacks. However, an analysis by the Urban Institute found we could have done a better job back in the year 2003.
I ask unanimous consent to proceed for an additional 2 minutes.
I ask unanimous consent for 5 more minutes, evenly divided.
However, an analysis by the Urban Institute found we could have done a better job back in the year 2003. Despite the immediacy and complexity of the situation, the fiscal relief was delayed and uniform. Some States were forced to take action before relief was available. Because the economic downturn of each State varied, some States didn't get enough assistance, and some States got assistance at the wrong time.
Let's learn from our mistakes. The partially targeted approach of this package will be better. It will give all States some assistance, a method that is effective and simple. But it will also give more money to States with the greatest need, which will help ensure we get the biggest bang for our buck.
These are difficult times, but our country is resilient. We are proud as Americans of our resiliency. We must draw on the wisdom of our Founding Fathers and stick together. We are more than a country. We are a union of States. Let us remember the good judgment of Alexander Hamilton and come together as a nation to help each of our States.
Over the Presiding Officer is our national motto, ``e pluribus unum.'' It could not be more appropriate than at this moment.
Mr. President, I do not see any speakers here. I will yield back that time, unless the Senator from Vermont wishes to speak.
I yield back that time so we can get to the vote.
I yield back the time.
Amendment No. 306, as Modified
Mr. President, I urge Senators to accept this amendment.
Mr. President, I yield back the time.
Mr. President, we have looked at this amendment and think it is a good one. We are prepared to accept it.
Mr. President, I yield back the remainder of our time.
Mr. President, the next Senator to speak is on his way here, Senator Kerry of Massachusetts. Is there someone on the other side who wishes to speak? We have 10 minutes equally divided.
After the 20 minutes, there then is a period during which Senators can call up their amendments, but they are only amendments that have been agreed to by an earlier UC.
Mr. President, I yield 10 minutes to the Senator from Massachusetts. Actually, I prefer they use the remaining 5 minutes on the other side.
Mr. President, I yield 10 minutes to the Senator from Massachusetts.
Objection.
Objection. That is not allowed in this agreement. I am sorry.
I misunderstood. I thought you wanted a queue for a vote.
You can call up your amendment and it will be made pending.
Mr. President, there are a series of amendments under the order under which Senators can call up specified amendments. I would like to go back and forth, Republican and Democrat and so forth. I also urge Senators to enter into time agreements for their speeches when they call up their amendments. I urge us now to move to amendment No. 501, called up by Senators Conrad and Graham.
Let me ask Senator Conrad what kind of time agreement might be reasonable for him.
Mr. President, I make that request.
I ask unanimous consent the time on the Conrad-Graham amendment be limited to 10 minutes.
I might say to my good friend from Vermont, there is a previous order entered into which listed amendments under which Senators could call up their amendments. I think it is about 10 or 12, roughly. I do not see the name of the Senator on this list.
Following disposition of this list, we will then enter a different period when different action can be taken by the Senate. I would have to consult with the leader to see what he wants to do following disposition of this list.
I say to my friend, there are many Senators who approached me, asking if we could take up their amendment following this list of amendments now. I cannot give a specific answer to any Senator at this point except to say that we will go through this list we are on right now under which Senators can call up amendments, and I will be consulting with the leader to try to figure out what is the next order of business. I will make it as fair as possible. I think the Senator will acknowledge that all day long--yesterday--we have gone back and forth to try to make it fair for both sides. But I cannot say what the exact procedure will be following the disposition of these amendments. I will try my very best to accommodate the Senator, as I will every other Senator, but I have to consult with the leader first to know what that is.
I appreciate that very much.
I renew my request that the time on the Conrad-Graham amendment be limited to 10 minutes.
I misunderstood. Ten each. That is the request.
That is a good question.
Five minutes to the Senator from Connecticut to speak in opposition to the amendment.
I ask unanimous consent that 10 more minutes be allocated to the Conrad-Graham amendment, equally divided, because there are some who still want to speak in opposition to the amendment.
We are limited, Mr. President.
I am sorry. The Senator is managing the time.
Mr. President, the Senator from Arizona is absolutely correct. It has been a good debate we have had on the Dodd-Conrad- Graham issue.
The next amendment that can be called up on the list would be on the Republican side of the aisle. I don't know who wants to call up his amendment next, but someone on the Republican side of the aisle should do so, and I am hoping perhaps we could enter into some kind of time agreement.
Say 10 minutes equally divided; is that all right?
Grassley No. 297. There would be a time limit for debate only, no vote on the amendment.
Ten minutes equally divided has been the suggestion.
We could, equally divided.
I appreciate that, but unfortunately there are Senators on this side of the aisle who want to speak in opposition, and the total time they want to use is more than 4 minutes. I will hold it to 20 minutes equally divided.
I appreciate that, but if we don't get an agreement, it is going to be longer. So discretion being the better part of valor, I suggest 20 minutes equally divided.
Mr. President, I yield 3 minutes to the Senator from West Virginia.
Mr. President, I yield 2 minutes to the Senator from Minnesota.
Mr. President, I yield 5 minutes to the Senator from New Jersey.
The Presiding officer. The Senator from New Jersey is recognized.
Mr. President, in the spirit of agreement, there will now be an amendment on the Democratic side. I suggest Senator Cantwell be recognized for the purpose of calling up her amendment. I ask the Senator to agree to a time agreement of 10 minutes equally divided. I think it is going to be accepted.
Ten minutes equally divided.
Mr. President, I support the Cantwell amendment. Frankly, in the regular order, somebody who opposes the Cantwell amendment should be speaking. I will take a little of her time. It is a good amendment, and I hope it gets adopted. I don't think anybody wants to speak in opposition.
Fine.
Does the Senator from Washington have time remaining?
Mr. President, I urge the Chair to recognize Senator Bunning to call up his amendment.
Ten minutes equally divided.
Ten minutes to the Senator from Kentucky.
Mr. President, the Senator from Kentucky has an interesting idea, an interesting proposition, and we did discuss it in committee. I did say in the committee that I think it is an issue that should appropriately be addressed, and I again thank the Senator for bringing up this issue.
I suggest that we now go to Senator Feingold for the purposes of offering an amendment.
Mr. President, I suggest that Senator Thune be recognized for the purpose of offering his amendment.
Mr. President, I am reminded of the great Baltimore Sun journalist H.L. Menken who said for every complicated problem there is a simple solution--and it is usually wrong.
We have a complicated problem: how to get our country going again. With all due respect, this is a very simple solution and, with all due respect, it has deep problems.
What are they? First of all, there are 49 million Americans who will not get any tax break from this proposal. Who are they? They are the Americans who are working, but they do not earn enough income to pay income taxes. Therefore, they get no deduction. They are not paying taxes. They are not in the 5-percent bracket. They are not in the 10- percent bracket. They just do not earn enough to pay income taxes. So when you talk about reducing taxes, giving rebates to those Americans who pay taxes, those 49 million Americans who are working, who pay payroll taxes, will get no break. Their taxes are not reduced.
I say that because the amendment strikes the whole bill. As I understand the amendment, it takes the amount of the bill and adds it back to taxpayers. The rebate goes to the taxpayers?
I am happy to.
I might say, Mr. President, reclaiming my time, this amendment strikes the underlying bill. What about States taking people off Medicaid, called FMAP? This bill gives about $86 billion to States so they can keep people on Medicaid, so they are not thrown off Medicaid. What about all the dollars in here that go to help build roads and highways and bridges?
Earlier, I asked my colleagues to remember two figures. What were they again--99 and 79. What is that? Just to repeat, 99 is the percent of dollars in the Finance Committee portion of this bill that are spent in the first 2 years; 99 percent of the whole Finance Committee bill is spent in the first 2 years. That is CBO, and it is Joint Tax. It is their figures. Just do the math.
The other figure I mentioned was 79--79 percent. What does 79 percent represent? All of the dollars in the whole bill, the Finance Committee bill and the Appropriations bill, total it all up--99 percent of the total bill will be spent in the first 2 years; 99 percent of the Finance Committee bill, 79 percent of the whole bill.
Next question: how efficiently are those dollars spent? I have just established that most of the dollars, by far, are going to be spent in the first 2 years--by far. The next question: How efficiently? To what degree will those dollars create jobs? A day or two ago the Congressional Budget Office released a letter that discusses the effects of this bill on jobs, on job creation. The letter says:
For all of the categories that would be affected by the
Senate legislation, the resulting budgetary changes are
estimated to raise output [and jobs] . . . albeit by
different amounts . . . [as follows.]
What does that say? Without taking too much time, it makes it very clear more jobs are created when we spend dollars for the purchase of goods and services. According to CBO--that is a quote:
Direct purchases of goods and services . . . tend to have
large effects on GDP.
What tends to have less of an effect? I know it is a mantra, I know it is ideology, but the fact is, what has less effect, to be honest about it, is tax cuts. And the higher the income bracket, according to CBO, the less stimulative effect on the economy.
For example, let's take AMT: 1-year tax cuts for people who pay the alternative minimum tax. What is the stimulative effect? There is a range. CBO does not know the exact amount, but it is a range between 10 cents on the dollar and 50 cents on the dollar. That is how much goes out into the economy. Not very much.
What is the range for purchase of goods and services by Uncle Sam, between $1 and $2.50; for transfers to State and local governments for infrastructure, between $1 and $2.50; for transfers to State and local governments not for infrastructure, between 70 cents to $1.90 on the dollar.
Get this: unemployment benefits, between 80 cents on the dollar and $2.20 on the dollar. Payments to persons for unemployment benefits has a much greater stimulative effect, by far, than does reduction in taxes. I mentioned already the effect of AMT.
My only point, it is interesting to hear what the Senator from South Dakota is saying, and I appreciate him correcting me by saying that 49 million Americans who otherwise do not pay income tax would also get a rebate. I am not sure the size of the rebate. I guess everybody gets the same amount, whether you are an individual or you are married. But we can create a lot more jobs by structuring the payment as it is in this legislation.
A lot of time and thought has gone into it. Virtually every--I will not say every. The bulk of economists, mainstream economists, will say clearly that the job creation effect is much greater with infrastructure than it is for tax cuts. You like to have tax cuts. People like to have dollars in their pockets. But the goal is infrastructure. It is job creation. Spend it early. I might add, I don't know the exact percentage, but a large portion of this bill is already tax cuts. It is large. I think it is 40 percent--40 percent of this bill is tax cuts. I don't think all the bill should be tax cuts. Rather, it should be spread out in a little more complicated way, following the advice of the Baltimore Sun journalist, H.L. Menken.
There is no time agreement, I say to my friend.
I think we are finished on this one unless the Senator from South Dakota wants to make some remarks.
Mr. President, it is time to go to the next Senator. I might say, the language of the amendment offered by the Senator from South Dakota, the language says an eligible individual is one who has filed a tax return. Many people who work don't file tax returns because they don't make enough money, so a lot of people are getting left off.
Next, I suggest the Chair recognize Senator Dodd from Connecticut.
I don't see Senator Enzi. He was next entitled to offer his amendment, so I urge the Chair to recognize Senator Wyden to offer an amendment.
Senator Enzi is on.
I ask Senator Enzi if he is agreeable to, say, a 5-minute limitation on his amendment.
I ask the Chair now to recognize Senator Wyden.
Mr. President, I think that concludes all the amendments on the list. We are now awaiting an attempt to drop a unanimous consent request so we can start voting on those amendments. That is in the process right now. Pending the completion of that list, it is probably advisable that we keep the Senate open for debate equally divided until the hour of 5 o'clock.
If we get the consent agreed to before then, we can ask to vitiate that agreement where debate be allocated equally so we can propound the other consent.
I ask unanimous consent that the time until 5 o'clock be time available for debate only, equally divided.
We will try to.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, might I ask the Senator from Kansas, how long do you wish to speak?
OK. Thank you. Fine.
Mr. President, I yield 5 minutes to the Senator from Rhode Island.
Mr. President, I yield 5 minutes to the Senator from Ohio.