Mr. Speaker, this evening I have requested an hour to speak about a pertinent issue for our Nation and a large issue for all generations in our country, and that is Social Security. As a Nation, we have to recognize that we have a problem…
Mr. Speaker, this evening I have requested an hour to speak about a pertinent issue for our Nation and a large issue for all generations in our country, and that is Social Security. As a Nation, we have to recognize that we have a problem that we
are facing with a system that we have had in place for 70 years. It is a problem that we must address, and it is an issue that we must ensure that we fix for future generations while at the same time maintaining our commitment to those that are at or near retirement age.
This is a large issue that we need to take on as a Congress. It is a large issue that we need to take on here in Washington, D.C. so that all Americans in all walks of life have the safety and security of their retirement savings.
So this evening many of my colleagues will join me to speak about the need for reform of Social Security and to maintain our commitment to those that are at or near retirement age while allowing younger workers a better opportunity and system to operate in.
To that end, the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite) is in her second term here in Washington, D.C. representing her constituents of Florida very well. We both serve on two committees together, Committee on Government Reform as well as the Committee on Financial Services. I am proud to call her a colleague. She also shares another distinction: she goes home every weekend, just as I do. She does that in order to maintain her sanity, just as I do.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite).
I certainly appreciate the sentiments of the gentlewoman from Florida. I am certain that her constituents appreciate her passion on this issue to ensure that Social Security does not harm those that are at or near retirement age. I appreciate her boldness on this issue and telling many of us things that we do not want to hear oftentimes. Her independence of mind, the independence of her agenda, it is certainly respected here in the halls of Congress. I am proud to call her a colleague.
Mr. Speaker, I am here to talk about Social Security, which in my mind is the most important domestic issue facing America today, not just for seniors but for those seniors' children and grandchildren. It is a vital program that we need to reform to ensure that we can continue with this program for generations to come. I am so grateful to be part of a political party that is taking this problem on. We in the majority in the House, we in the majority in the Senate, along with our President, and I am so thankful we have a great President, are taking on this issue. Whether you like President Bush or not, he has guts and you have to respect that.
They called Social Security the third rail of American politics. If you touched it, you got fried. Well, things have changed. This is an issue that Americans are beginning to realize needs to be fixed in order to make sure it can be vibrant for future generations. And George Bush showed us all that we can and should tackle this issue, for our seniors and for our grandchildren. We in Congress are serious about taking this on. We are serious about a bipartisan approach, and we are serious about transforming this system into one that will thrive throughout the 21st century and beyond.
We want to transform it with three principles in mind, and these are important.
First, no reform that will pass this House will dare change the benefits of those that are at or near retirement age. For those that are currently drawing Social Security checks right now, none of the plans we debate will affect your Social Security check. But it will affect your children and grandchildren. So it is definitely important to you to consider those things.
Number two, no reform should raise taxes. You will hear a lot about raising taxes or raising the tax cap and say that that will fix the system. It will not. Tax hikes just postpone the problems we will face with Social Security, and tax hikes are not real reform.
The third issue is that we must make sure that these are voluntary personal accounts.
I will further talk about these issues as my time goes on, but I am proud at this point to recognize one of my favorite colleagues, my majority leader, our Republican leader in this U.S. House, a leader that not only shares our values but works and fights every day to see that we not only just talk about these values but we enact them into law, a man who has won close vote after close vote to even the ire and fire and fury of the minority but a man who has led our House in a great direction over the 10 years we have been in the majority, a man I am proud to call my Republican leader and will continue to call my Republican leader, Mr. Tom DeLay from Texas.
I thank the majority leader for taking time out of his busy schedule in order to be a part of this special order. I certainly appreciate the passion he brings to his service in the House and his effectiveness as well.
Mr. Speaker, as I said, we have three issues that we need to make central to this reform of Social Security. First, no benefit cuts for those that are at or near retirement age. No changes. Second, no reforms should raise taxes. No reforms should raise taxes. And, number three, we must have voluntary personal retirement accounts that allow individual ownership. We want to move to a modern system that is tied to a better approach, with people having ownership and actually having control over their investments and having control over their retirement.
So the gentleman from the great State of Texas (Mr. Hensarling), another one of my good colleagues, represents the Dallas area. He is in his second term here in the Congress; and from the get-go in 2003, when he first entered this place, he was recognized as a leader. And he is, indeed, a leader. He has led the fight for conservative budgets. He is a man who is passionate about representing his constituents in Texas well, including his wife and two kids; and he is a man who wants to talk about the family budget, not just about our Federal budget, because politicians oftentimes come to Washington and want to represent government rather than absolutely representing the people that they were elected to represent, and that is the families, those families across America who have to live within their budget in order to make ends meet.
So with that, Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Hensarling), whom I am proud to call a leader and proud to call a friend.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, how much is that per year that we delay reform? The numbers I have are that it is about $600 billion a year.
Absolutely. And reclaiming my time, Mr. Speaker, the numbers are about $4,500 for every American in the workforce; $9,000 for a married couple. These numbers are so staggering, and so I think it is a moral imperative for Congress to act.
And with that, Mr. Speaker, I further yield to the gentleman.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman. I certainly appreciate his passion on this issue and his devotion to our conservative philosophy and to our great Nation.
Mr. Speaker, if I may, I think with the earlier speakers you have heard there is a problem with Social Security. It is a problem we must tackle. I believe we have a moral obligation to step forward and to solve this problem before it results in a doubling or tripling of taxes or 30 percent cuts in benefits, these massive, devastating changes that can really hurt our Nation and hurt communities and hurt seniors. So we have a moral obligation to step forward and come up with a better plan.
I want to tell you, the longer we wait, the tougher it becomes to fix the problem and the more expensive it becomes. As I said earlier, $600 billion a year we waste by not fixing the problem. That roughly equates to about $4,500 per person, per working person.
Some would say, why do we not just tax more? And there is this concept of raising the Social Security tax cap. I want to tell you, it is not that simple. When you are talking about a $600 billion a year payment we have to make in order to not solve the problem, it is hard to tax enough in order to meet that obligation. Beyond that, even if you take the cap off of the income subject to Social Security, that would only buy about 2 years, about 2 years, of further solvency in the system.
So it is not a fix. It is delaying the problem, delaying the pain. And because our Nation is changing, because
of the demographics of our Nation and the fact that we are going to have fewer people working per each retiree, we have to change the system in order to make it solvent for future generations.
With the baby boomers beginning to retire in 2008 and 2009, baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964, so the first half of the baby boomers will begin to retire in 2008 and 2009. As they begin to retire, we are going to have to pay out more and more and more in the Social Security system. Certainly we have made that obligation as a great Nation, but I think we need to take on this problem of our change in population and the giant bubble that the baby boomers represent in terms of the population of our Nation and take on this issue to fix it.
So the problem is clear. Our demographics have changed in this Nation over the 70 years of the Social Security program, and Social Security is broken. It was designed in 1935 before television, before commercial aviation, before computers, and it needs to be redesigned. We do not drive 1935 automobiles anymore, do we? So what we need is a vehicle for retirement savings that is in keeping with our times.
That solution, Mr. Speaker, is personal accounts, personal retirement savings accounts. Personal accounts will eliminate the long-term liabilities of the Social Security system, that long-term liability that the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Hensarling) spoke of, that $11 trillion unfunded liability.
We as a Congress need to take on this challenge. But why is that? Why is it that Social Security retirement accounts, personal savings accounts, fix the system? It is because when workers put their own money into personal accounts for Social Security instead of the old system of Social Security, they lessen their own future pull on the system.
You see, by having your own accounts, just like IRAs, they accumulate money, they accumulate interest, and interest upon interest, interest upon interest upon interest. That is the power of investments, and that is what is going to allow personal retirement savings accounts to give a better rate of return than our current Social Security system.
Money into personal accounts means less of a pull on the system later. Remember, these accounts, as the President has spoken of, these personal retirement accounts, they are voluntary, so there will be no changes if you are at or near retirement age. For those 55 and older, no changes. For those that are younger, they will have the option, the opportunity to choose a personal retirement account for their own Social Security benefits. No effects on seniors currently. They are voluntary for younger workers. It is a wonderful opportunity for us to have this debate about personal ownership.
Beyond that, some say, how does this work? How do personal retirement accounts work?
Well, first of all, you cannot take the money to Las Vegas. You cannot go and bet your money. You cannot throw it in your brother-in- law's business. You would have to use widely diversified securities, savings accounts, certificates of deposit, bond funds, municipal bonds, bond and stock fund mix, these type of options, well-regulated, very diversified.
Some say, well, this seems sort of foreign to me. Currently, in America we have personal retirement accounts all across this Nation.
It brings about a story that occurred to me back in my district in Western North Carolina, Mr. Speaker, in the Tenth District of North Carolina. I went out and was out at church one day, at a new church visiting, and I met a fellow there named Dave Roland. Dave Roland works for the Foothills Area Mental Health Developmental Disabilities and Substance Abuse Authority located in Western North Carolina, in Burke and Caldwell Counties.
These folks that are out there serving those with mental health issues, they have personal accounts. Wait a second. How does that happen, some are saying. This seems very odd to me. But they have personal accounts.
I will not get into the arcane nature of tax law changes and everything else, but between 1935 and 1983 different entities had the ability to opt out of Social Security. They had the ability to provide their own type of retirement plans, many personal savings accounts like we are trying to implement. So some of these governmental entities still have them today.
Unfortunately, that option was closed in 1983. Since then, no organization can opt out of Social Security, no governmental entity can opt out of Social Security. But for the groups who opted out beforehand, before 1983, if they wanted to remain outside the system, they could, and many still remain outside the system.
Fully 4 percent of the American workforce is outside of the Social Security system. They have some type of personal savings accounts. That is over 5 million people. They work for organizations that have opted out over the preceding years.
Just so you know, there is a big myth out there, Congress has not opted out of the system. We are still in the Social Security system. I, along with my staff and all Members here in Congress and on Capitol Hill, pay into Social Security. So we have a good interest in making sure this program continues, because we do pay in.
Now, not all the opted-out plans are the same. They are very different. But I found out about the Foothills program because I was lucky enough to meet David Roland. He works at the Foothills Mental Health Authority, as I said, and is one of my constituents.
I am trying to find out about other programs like David has, so I ask those, Mr. Speaker, those that hear my voice or see my face to shoot me an e-mail if you know of anyone who has an opted-out system, whether they work for a governmental entity, in any State in the Nation, not just my own constituents in North Carolina. So they can e-mail me at [email protected]. That is [email protected]. Please let me know. I want to know your story about a system where you have opted out. I want to know the kind of returns you have gotten, whether you like them or not.
But everyone I have talked to loves their personal retirement accounts, including David Roland. They are optional at Foothills Mental Health Authority. They are optional. An employee can make the choice to stay in the current Social Security system or have this system of personal retirement accounts.
At Foothills, they have the option of paying their portion of Social Security, their 6.2 percent of FICA tax, into a 403(b) annuity plan. It is just like an IRA, very similar to that.
Dave Roland told me this. He lives in Morganton, and he is one of the folks that opted out. He has been working at Foothills for 7 years, since March of 1998. He is 34 years old. He is responsible for all the yearly regulatory training at Foothills for all these mental health service providers.
He could not be happier with the system. He is not a slick Wall Street investor. No, he is a man that likes spending time with his children, is devoted to his church and works hard every day. He is a regular guy, just like you and me. I want to tell you what he says. I want to quote from him right now.
``I am a common worker. I have the benefit of a plan along the lines of what the President has proposed. In 7 years I have accumulated over $50,000. I control the amount of risk that I want, and it is far better than what I could have gotten from the Social Security plan. I cannot imagine that I would have the same amount had I been in Social Security.''
I am not going to tell you what Dave makes. In fact, I would not ask that question of him. But he is a man that is much like millions of Americans across this Nation. In 7 short years, he has a personal retirement account like we are proposing here in Congress, and in 7 short years he has accumulated over $50,000 of retirement savings.
Now that is an amazing feat, if you consider the fact that he began investing in the late nineties and there were ups and downs in the stock market just in the last 7 years, and he has $50,000 in savings. That is a staggering number in a short period of time.
But those are the type of benefits that we are talking about. He could buy an annuity when he retires. If he continues to get a similar rate of return, he could buy an annuity and get far more than what the Social Security system could give him. Benefits for Social Security are capped at about $2,000 a month.
So a regular guy from my district has a personal retirement account. That is why I am so optimistic about what we are trying to do here in Congress, the type of reforms that we are trying to achieve, with personal ownership, a new retirement system that enables people personal ownership and allows them to pass on to their heirs if they do not spend all the money, to pass on to their heirs if they do not make the retirement age. These are wonderful opportunities for us to give to all Americans, all walks of life.
Mr. Speaker, do you know what? When Dave Roland makes his money and gets his check at the end of the week or the end of the month, it is his money. It is his money. Thankfully, he has a personal retirement account that he still controls and still owns, because it is his money.
That is what we are trying to do with personal retirement accounts, to give personal ownership, that level of inheritability to pass onto your heirs, that personal freedom, while at the same time having it well-regulated, operating very similar to the way Social Security does today, meaning the money is taken out of your check, you are obligated to be a part of the Social Security system, and that the investments will be well-regulated, the risks minimized.
What is fascinating, though, is there have been studies done on the stock market. There are some left-wing liberals that will tell you we should not invest in the stock market. I think we have gotten great rates of return in the stock market. We have gotten a better rate of return certainly than any government program can give.
Certainly I would like to be concerned about the rising tide in our Nation, to make sure that all Americans have that same ability to improve their life, to have personal ownership, personal savings and be a part of our marketplace, be a part of our marketplace.
I will tell you this: Some say the stock market is risky.
Over the last 200 years, the average rate of return in the stock market has been 7 percent. Now, that is over three times the best rate of return for Social Security. In any 20-year period in American history, the stock market has never gone down. Even during the Great Depression in the 1930s and the 1940s, the stock market did not go down. It had a positive return.
So we want to give all Americans, Mr. Speaker, that opportunity. We have a moral obligation as a Congress to take on this issue, to solve this problem, not just for a few years, not just push the problem back to another Congress another day; but we have a moral obligation to do what is right for our constituents and do what is right for all Americans, and allow them to have a better system to operate for their retirement savings, not just for the next couple of years, but for generations to come. And with personal accounts, without raising taxes, and while maintaining our commitment to those who are at or near retirement age, we can do this as Americans.
We are not going to let those on the other side of the aisle just deny that there is a problem. That, in fact, is denying reality. And do not believe, Mr. Speaker, and do not allow the American people to believe that there is not a problem. This is an issue we have to take on as a Nation, and we are going to take it on. It is going to be the Republican Congress that takes this on. We are hopeful that some Democrats will come to the reality that there is a problem and that the right thing to do is to tackle it now instead of pushing it off to another day.
I appreciate this time to speak about this need for Social Security reform.