Postal Accountability And Enhancement Act
I am 73 years old, but I didn't chair it all the time. So that I understand, I am speaking on my own time now; is that correct? Right. First, let me say the Senator who is raising the point of order has every right to raise the point of…
I am 73 years old, but I didn't chair it all the time.
So that I understand, I am speaking on my own time now; is that correct?
Right. First, let me say the Senator who is raising the point of order has every right to raise the point of order. The question is, is this a real point of order? I want to tell the Senate, I am not the Parliamentarian. I am not the Congressional Budget Office. But if I were either, I would say this point of order does not even lie, not that we should defeat it, it just does not lie. It is not a proper interpretation of the existing budget law to say this point of order can be raised and can invalidate this bill because the bill violates the budget.
I want the Senators who are worried about voting to waive this point of order to understand this is not a budgetary issue. This is a technical point of order that got to the Senate because the Congressional Budget Office, I assume, or the Parliamentarian in consultation with the Congressional Budget Office, ruled that any expenditure of money exceeding $5 billion over a baseline in the year 2016 cannot be sustained.
You see, Senator Byrd, this was done by our distinguished new chairman of the Budget Committee because he found that budgets were being broken in future years by putting in a program that ran at $2 or $3 billion a year and increased, way out there in future years, up to $10 or $15 billion.
Now, fellow Senators, what I have described was perfectly valid until the distinguished chairman, within his rights, decided that this was a problem he wanted to solve. Now, you see, the goal is to prevent the bump-up of expenditures in future years that are unexpected by everybody voting today--unexpected because the increase comes along 10 years later and costs much more than what you thought you were voting for.
Now, I cannot explain it any better than that. That is about the best I can do. Somebody must have determined that this budget rule applies because there is no way to disburse this trust fund money without going through the Department of Labor. That must be it. Because some Government agency must take this money--not tax money, not Federal money--and run it through their books and write the checks, somebody has decided that this fear of a bump-up in some future year applies.
My good friend from Nevada is absolutely right to bring up this point of order if what he wants to have happen to this bill is for it to be proven by 60 votes. That is fine. But I want everybody to know, if the point of order is not sustained and this bill goes forward, I don't think the deficit of the United States is going to be affected in 2016 by one dollar if this $5 billion estimate is true because the money is not
really on the Federal books. The trust fund has no real relationship to the expenditure of Federal money.
So in considering this budget rule--I have explained it to you--I ask: how are we going to break the budget when this money is not even part of the budget? It is not on the budget. The money is going to be collected and then go through the Department of Labor, but it is not Federal money.
I say to Senator Byrd, when they send the budget up in 2016, there is not going to be any of this trust fund money. This money might get a footnote. The Department of Labor is going to have to run the trust fund, but it cannot add to or subtract from the deficit because the Government is not spending its money. And it is not tax money.
So let me say, if you want to kill this bill based upon a point of order that is--it is almost not a point of order, it is just a little, tiny technicality--it gets in by the skin of its teeth on an interpretation--then vote for it. If you are worried about saving money, and being a tightfisted budgeteer, then understand that this has nothing to do with being a tightfisted budgeteer because there is no budgeting involved.
So I thank the good chairman who has worked so hard on this bill. I have never sat on the committee that produced this bill in my 34 years here. I never chose to go on the Judiciary Committee, so I am not intimately knowledgeable about this. But I know we better do something about asbestos. We run around talking about fiscal responsibility and helping business and cutting taxes so we will have more business. If we do not do anything about asbestos, and leave it in the courts, it will be the biggest abuse of the court system that we have ever known.
If you want to tell these new countries becoming democracies, ``boy, are we a gifted country, we have this great rule of law, this fantastic court system,'' please, don't let them ask about asbestos because they will laugh: Why should they be like America? Why should they have a legal system that is so messed up that there are hundreds of thousands of claimants running around this country with scores of lawyers who, when we were practicing law, would not even have been lawyers? You could not run around soliciting these cases when I was sworn into the bar. You could not run around hiring these doctors when I was a member of the bar. You could not run around saying: Go get your neighbors and sign them up.
That is American law today. It is business. It is entrepreneurial law. That is what we have. But it is not very orderly and it is not very ``due'' in terms of due process. Nor is it very fair because the claimants do not get very much money. The lawyers get a lot.
I do not know why we would want to kill this bill. Lawyers get less. There is an orderliness involved. There is a way to adjudicate claims instead of waiting around for years. So with this point of order, while I think it is not even a point of order in the sense of what we intended with the 10-year-out rule--let's call it that; the 10-year-out rule--I do not know what we are even trying to protect against. It is not going to affect anything except to possibly kill the bill.
So with that I thank the Senate for yielding me a few minutes. I regret having to intervene before the proponent got to speak. But I thank the Senate nonetheless.