Mr. Chair, I yield myself the balance of my time. Mr. Chair, I do think it is incumbent on me to characterize my position and recharacterize my friend's characterization of my position, which, as I recall, was to close buildings and kick…
Mr. Chair, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I do think it is incumbent on me to characterize my position and recharacterize my friend's characterization of my position, which, as I recall, was to close buildings and kick out Federal employees.
That is not my position. In fact, in many ways, I share the goals of the chair of the subcommittee, that it is clear we have much more federally owned and leased space than is currently being used given the work schedules and changes that have taken place since COVID. It is necessary for us to look at how best to consolidate that space, to rightsize that space, given its usage.
The problem I have is the hammer approach that this particular bill takes by setting a hard and fast 60 percent rule rather than looking at the flexibility necessary when you are considering agency by agency, division by division within those agencies, and how that space can be used properly and most efficiently.
We have worked on a bipartisan basis on the committee on a wide range of policies, including rightsizing the Federal real estate footprint. Just yesterday, we passed, on suspension, the FASTA Reform Act, a bill that the chairman himself sponsored that will expedite the disposal of excess Federal property.
When we work together, we can make some really good progress on this and other issues, but today's bill does fall short by failing to take into account the complexity of the Federal leasing process and using an incomplete and flawed metric for measuring the occupancy rate of Federal buildings.
I do welcome the opportunity to work with any Member in good faith, and we have done that, again, on many issues in the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. We all want to make genuine improvements on the Federal real estate program.
Mr. Chair, I do oppose this legislation, and I urge my colleagues to do the same.
Mr. Chair, I include in the Record the Statement of Administration Policy that the administration strongly opposes H.R. 6276; a letter dated March 12 from the AFL-CIO in opposition to H.R. 6276; a letter dated March 11 from the Federal Workers Alliance opposing H.R. 6276; and a letter dated March 8 from the American Federation of Government Employees opposing H.R. 6276.
Statement of Administration Policy
H.R. 6276--Utilizing Space Efficiently and Improving Technologies (USE
IT) Act of 2023--Rep. Perry, R-PA
The Administration strongly opposes H.R. 6276, the USE IT
Act, which would direct the Director of the Office of
Management Budget (OMB) and the Administrator of the General
Services Administration (GSA) to ensure that Federal
agencies' building utilization meets an arbitrary level of
not less than a 60 percent average each year and, if an
agency does not reach the target, GSA and OMB would have to
forcibly reduce the agency's space. While the Administration
believes that the Federal real estate portfolio needs to be
evaluated and optimized, the Administration believes that
agencies' unique missions require individualized approaches
to improving space utilization. H.R. 6276 does not consider
the varying mission and technical requirements of individual
agencies or the age and original design of affected
facilities when directing the OMB Director and GSA
Administrator to develop and implement a plan to consolidate
multiple agency headquarters functions into fewer buildings
within the National Capital Region. These buildings, many of
which are historic, would require major modernization and
reconfiguration, prior to supporting dramatically increased
occupancy levels. Instead, the Administration recommends
strengthening the
collection of utilization data by Federal agencies and
providing sufficient funding to GSA and affected agencies to
execute necessary consolidations. The Administration is
committed to working with agencies to improve their
utilization of Federal space and to identify opportunities to
reduce space.
Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Mr. Chair, this amendment requires GSA to include in its occupancy agreements with Federal tenants a requirement that tenant agencies submit a report on utilization and usage to GSA. It also requires the return of office space by the tenant to GSA if occupancy falls below 60 percent for 6 months within any 1-year period.
GSA previously allowed tenant agencies to return unneeded space back to GSA with 120-days' notice, but in May of 2023, GSA changed its policy and now all new occupancy agreements between GSA and Federal tenants must include a noncancellation clause to prevent agencies from returning space to GSA.
Requiring agencies to return space if occupancy falls below 60 percent for 6 months does not account for the fact that space costs incurred by the government still remain under the lease contract.
While I have concerns about the mechanics and the cost of an agency returning space to GSA with this amendment, I will not oppose this amendment.
Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, again, I do not oppose the amendment on this side of the aisle, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Mr. Chair, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Auchincloss).
Mr. Chair, my biggest concern with the underlying bill is that it defines occupancy as the total number of employees physically working from the offices at least 5 days a week. Many Federal employees do not actually sit at their desks at all because they are out in the field working.
As the bill is currently written, these employees--as well as Federal employees who have approved alternative work schedules--would not be included
in occupancy counts. This amendment makes a slight improvement to that definition, as was explained by the Representative from Massachusetts.
The effort to count occupants in buildings is worthwhile, but only if we ensure that all occupants, including those who have been sanctioned and approved with their alternative work schedules, are included.
This amendment will improve the bill, and I thank the Representative from Pennsylvania and the Representative from Massachusetts for their efforts.
Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, even though I am not opposed to it.
Mr. Chair, section 4 of H.R. 6276 requires the heads of Federal agencies to submit to the Office of Management and Budget and the General Services Administration and Congress a report on the usage of real property.
The amendment that the Representative from Wyoming offers expands the reporting requirement by including the telework and remote work practices of the agency and the impact those policies have on utilization rates and buildings occupied by the respective agency.
It certainly would be helpful for Congress to have a clearer picture of these policies and practices across the government.
Mr. Chair, I support this amendment, and I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, even though I am not opposed to it.
Mr. Chair, section 3 of H.R. 6276 requires the heads of Federal agencies to work with the Administrator of General Services to identify, deploy, and use sensors and other technologies to measure the occupancies of Federal buildings.
The amendment from the Representative from Wyoming will require that Personal Identity Verification badge swipe data should also be used but only capture the first credentialed use of the day for each cardholder.
Ensuring that each person is counted one time--not every time they may leave and return--would provide accurate representation of building utilization and meet the goals of Congress to better assess the use of Federal office space.
Mr. Chair, I support this amendment, and I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I have no further speakers, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, even though I am not opposed to it.
Mr. Chair, the amendment offered by the Representative from Georgia requires some significant reporting on occupancy, utilization rates, and costs by the heads of Federal agencies to the Office of Management and Budget, the General Services Administration, and Congress.
Information gathering and transparency is vital to efficient and effective governing, so I will not oppose the amendment.
I do want to point out, however, that agency heads are already required to report occupancy and utilization data, and that data can be found on GSA's annual performance overview reports on GSA's website that the public can access now.
Mr. Chair, I will not oppose the amendment, and I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I have no other speakers, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, even though I am not opposed to it.
Mr. Chair, section 4 of H.R. 6276 requires the heads of Federal agencies to submit to the Office of Management and Budget, the General Services Administration, and Congress a report on the usage of real property.
The amendment offered by the Representative from Georgia for the Representative from Florida requires the Government Accountability Office to report to Congress on the costs to Federal agencies associated with complying with section 4 of the underlying bill.
The GAO's report must include the cost of Federal agencies of surveying, monitoring, and deploying sensors and technologies to measure the occupancy and actual utilization rates of space in public buildings and space leased by the Federal Government.
Mr. Chair, I support this amendment, and I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, we have no further speakers, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, even though I am not opposed to it.
Mr. Chair, the amendment offered by the Representative from Tennessee requires the heads of Federal agencies to
submit a report to the inspector general of each respective agency on buildings under the agency's jurisdiction that has capacity for 500 or more employees that has a 20 percent utilization rate or less.
Upon receipt of the report, the relevant inspector general is to investigate evidence of fraud, abuse, or mismanagement.
Now, I will say this, I don't know why this amendment is necessary. I understand the Federal real estate has been on the General Accounting Office's High-Risk list for years, but nowhere in GAO's reporting were there claims of fraud, abuse, or mismanagement. Even though this is only a reporting requirement, requiring the inspector general of every Federal agency to investigate could be a waste of time and resources.
This amendment seems to be a solution chasing a problem, but I will not oppose it.
Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I will close on this amendment by briefly speaking to the broader bill. The goal that we share in Congress is to ensure that Congress, the General Services Administration, the agencies all adjust to the post-COVID life that we have in Federal real estate, that we are rightsizing Federal real estate, and that we get rid of the office space we don't need and use the office space that we do need.
This amendment is an attempt to do that. I certainly will not oppose it, but I do ask folks to consider it.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.