Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment. I thank my friend for offering the amendment. We are inclined to oppose the amendment on the following grounds: in 2005, Congress enacted the Sunken Military Craft Act and the principal…
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
I thank my friend for offering the amendment.
We are inclined to oppose the amendment on the following grounds: in 2005, Congress enacted the Sunken Military Craft Act and the principal purpose of that law was to preserve U.S. sovereignty and Department of Defense sovereignty over sunken vessels and abandoned aircraft and the like for strategic and economic purposes, and also to protect the remains and property of those who may have perished on those sunken vessels.
It's my understanding that this amendment draws a distinction between such vessels that were in noncommercial service versus commercial service. And although I think I understand the justification for that distinction, here is our concern with the consequence of that.
It is our understanding there is pending litigation between the nation of Spain and a private venture over the disposition of rights to a sunken vessel that at least at one time--I suppose the time it was sunk--may have had some claim in the United States. I don't know if that is the case. Our concern is that by taking statutory action here, we may be in some way interfering with the outcome of that litigation or the process of that litigation.
I would yield to my friend, the author of the amendment, to ask if that is his intention.
Reclaiming my time, I think the gentleman's distinction makes sense. We have spoken to the Navy about this, and the Navy's objection is predicated upon its concern that there could be an impact on the litigation that is pending that I made reference to and possibly claims of other sovereign nations in similar situations.
So, reluctantly, we would be inclined to oppose the amendment, but obviously be willing to discuss with the gentleman as time goes forward ways that perhaps our concerns could be addressed. So for present purposes, we would be in opposition to the amendment for the reasons that I stated.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, we support the authority of our President to relentlessly hunt down those who attacked us on 9/11 anywhere, at any time. But we do not support the right of this or any future President to wage war anywhere, at any time, and I believe that's what the underlying bill does.
The underlying bill says that you can engage in the current armed conflict against a nation that has substantially supported al Qaeda. There is a record that suggests that Iran has substantially supported al Qaeda in Iraq. I don't think the Members of this body think that we have the power to attack Iran without further congressional action.
There is evidence that Hezbollah has supported al Qaeda and similar organizations. I don't think the Members of this body think that we have the right to attack Lebanon and Hezbollah without further action of this Congress.
We should never relent in going after those who attacked us on 9/11, but we should never ignore the constitutional prerogative of this House and the Senate to engage in the declaration of war.
I thank my friend from Virginia for yielding.
I am entirely sympathetic to my friend from California's view that it is probable, maybe even certain, the Defense Department could function with fewer civilian employees than it does right now. And I think the Secretary of Defense shares our conviction because he has frozen the number of civilian employees at FY 2010 levels.
Now, here is my concern with the gentleman's amendment. The gentleman's amendment makes it the law of the land that the correct number of civilian employees in the Department of Defense 5 years from now should be 40,000 persons, more or less, fewer than we have right now. I don't know if that is the right or the wrong number. And I would suggest, frankly, that none of us here know if that is the right or the wrong number.
The proper way to go about this, which the Secretary has in fact done, is to make an assessment of the needs of the Department and the functions that it serves and then to balance those needs against the three ways you can serve those needs. You can either have civilian employees perform the task, you can hire outside contractors to perform the task, or you can delegate the task to uniformed employees. By choosing an arbitrary number of 40,000 civilian employees fewer than what we
have right now, it seems to me that we don't know if that fits the size of the job we have; and if it doesn't fit the size of the job that we have, it necessitates an increase of contracts or an increase of duties for uniformed personnel, the consequences of which none of us, frankly, have the ability to know.
So I share the desire to properly fit the size of the civilian workforce to the job that has to be done. I just can't concluded with any degree of confidence that a workforce that is 40,000 persons fewer is the right fit. My concern is this would have the effect of shifting responsibilities to uniformed personnel when they have more urgent priorities to achieve.
I would urge a ``no'' vote.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, at this time I would like to yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Coffman).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to my friend from Virginia (Mr. Wittman).
Mr. Chairman, may I inquire as to how much time we have remaining on our side?
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished ranking member of the full committee, my friend, Mr. Smith.
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to my friend from Virginia (Mr. Forbes).
Madam Chairwoman, as we meet tonight in support of the Sanchez amendment, we have 30 ground-based interceptors at Fort Greely and at Vandenberg. We have an Aegis Array at sea. We have other radar protections for this country. And we have an effort to give $100 million to a military leader who said the following
in April when he was talking about what he needed, referring to Senator Levin in the Senate, ``Right now, sir, I've got the funding I need to address the problem of the FTG-06 failure because I've stopped my production line. That was not to save any money. It was solely driven by the need to confirm the design works before we go back into production.''
Let's not give a military leader $100 million he didn't ask for, for something that doesn't work yet, that isn't needed to defend the country.
Vote for the Sanchez amendment.