Transportation, Treasury, Housing And Urban Development, The Judiciary, The District Of Columbia, And Independent Agencies Appropriations Act,
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of this amendment to save Amtrak, and that is what this bill is about: $550 million within the bill shuts down Amtrak entirely. It is not a scare tactic. It is not an exaggeration. It is a matter of…
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of this amendment to save Amtrak, and that is what this bill is about: $550 million within the bill shuts down Amtrak entirely. It is not a scare tactic. It is not an exaggeration. It is a matter of hard financial truth. Amtrak would have nothing left basically to run its trains when it pays out its debt and its interest on its debt and its mandatory labor severance pay outs. And without Amtrak, for example, in the northeast corridor, 80,000 daily commuters in New Jersey and thousands more throughout other States would be stranded because many
transit systems in those States, your States, my colleagues, depend upon Amtrak to run their trains for their commuters and their citizens. This is about small and mid-sized businesses having intercity rail service to sell their goods and services, to send their sales forces. This is about putting the country and linking it together, the United States of America. And after September 11, my God, if we do not understand that this is about national security, we are waiting for the next disaster like in Madrid. Vote for Amtrak.
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in strong support of the LaTourette- Oberstar-Menendez amendment to save Amtrak. We've heard the facts about what this appropriations bill would do. We know that 550 million dollars will shut down Amtrak entirely. This is not a scare tactic. This is not an exaggeration. This is a matter of hard financial truth. With the interest it pays on its debt and the mandatory labor severance payouts for discontinued routes, Amtrak would have nothing left-- nothing--to run trains. And without Amtrak maintaining the Northeast Corridor, 80,000 commuters in New Jersey and throughout the Northeast would be stranded, because many transit systems depend on Amtrak in order to run their own trains.
As I said, we've already heard these facts. But I want to focus on the fundamental problem: a combination of unrealistic expectations and insufficient support that Amtrak has struggled with since its creation. I hear these complaints all the time: We keep pouring money into Amtrak, and it keeps getting worse. So we give Amtrak barely enough to get by. And then Amtrak gets worse. It's a vicious cycle, and it does nothing to improve passenger rail in this country. We cannot have an Amtrak on a starvation diet. Do you want to see an efficient, effective intercity rail system? Give it the money that it ultimately deserves.
There are some other facts about Amtrak that people tend to forget. First, we spend more money on highways in this bill alone than we have on Amtrak in its entire history. Second, Amtrak was created when the railroads begged the government to take the passengers off their hands. The freight railroads didn't want the burden of these unprofitable lines, so expecting Amtrak to be profitable on these same lines with bare-bones funding levels is totally unrealistic.
In addition, no mode of transportation pays for itself. Not aviation, not mass transit, and not highways. We subsidize them because they improve the quality of our lives. And that's what transportation is about. It's not just getting from one place to another. It's about creating jobs, revitalizing neighborhoods, stimulating commerce, redeveloping underutilized land, and making us more secure. Amtrak is part of all of that. It is a crucial link for businesses up and down the Northeast Corridor. It provides mobility options for rural communities that don't have airports or inter-city bus service. And as we saw on September 11th, it is a crucial element of our transportation system when the airlines are grounded.
Mr. Chairman, people ride trains in this country when you give them good service. What we've seen in California in the past few years is that when you run more trains, more often, and you run them on time, people flock to the trains. We should be arguing seriously about how to improve Amtrak. We should be making the commitment and the investment that we're willing to make for transit, highways, and aviation. We should be here talking about how to build a world-class intercity rail system, instead of trying to scrape together enough money so Amtrak can survive another year.
If you want to have a discussion about how to reform Amtrak, you have to have an Amtrak. This appropriations bill would kill it. Our amendment would save it. But it is still just enough to scrape by. Amtrak will continue to defer maintenance, and service will suffer. So we'll be back here again next year fighting the same fight. But we can do better than that. We can give Americans the intercity rail system they deserve. This amendment keeps Amtrak on life-support, but we need to start talking about rehabilitation and regrowth. I look forward to that discussion and urge my colleagues to support the LaTourette- Oberstar-Menendez amendment and keep Amtrak alive.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
(Mr. MENENDEZ asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in support of the Brown- Menendez-Rahall-Cummings amendment to save the 18 Amtrak routes that would be cut in this bill represented with these red lines across the country.
This is a mode of transportation for millions of Americans who have chosen it as their form to get connected to other parts of this country.
Now, if the language in the bill stands, notwithstanding that the previous amendment added money to Amtrak's overall budget, but if we allow the rest of the language in the bill to stand, Amtrak would be eviscerated as a national rail passenger service, as a national rail passenger service from coast to coast, one country, the United States of America, the United States of America.
The map shows it all very clearly. All long-distance routes would be gone. The 23 States in yellow would lose Amtrak service. However, nearly every State would be affected by the loss of some of these routes, including my home State of New Jersey. And even if Amtrak were still able to run its short-distance trains, States with Amtrak service would still suffer.
And there are a lot of places, we keep hearing about these air traffic ticket fares. Well, they are very selective and they also do not speak to the volume that there are a lot of places in the country where you cannot get to that location through a direct flight or even sometimes through a connector flight. Amtrak brings the Nation together. And you cannot starve a horse and ask it to run like a thoroughbred. That is exactly what has happened to Amtrak time and time again.
Those who starve it then come here and say how inefficient it is, but it cannot function if it does not get the right resources in the first place.
Now, these long-distance routes are not just a lifeline for people in rural towns out west, although certainly Fargo, North Dakota; Minot, North Dakota; Cut Bank, Montana; Elko, Nevada; Trinidad, Colorado; Needles, California; Yazoo City, Mississippi; Newton, Kansas, and many more are what you are seeking to eliminate by eliminating these routes.
Those people in America, small-town America, rural America, they deserve the opportunity to be connected to the
rest of the country as well, because these long-distance routes are not just the lifeline for people in the rural town out west who depend on trains like the Empire Builder and the Southwest Chief to be able get around the country.
This is about thousands of people, for example, in New Jersey who take the train to Atlanta or Florida each year. It is about tens of thousands of people who take the train from New York to Chicago. It is about maintaining the critical redundancy of our intercity transportation system, the importance of which we saw the days after September 11 when our airplanes were grounded, and it was Amtrak that was still connecting the Nation together.
Eliminating the long-distance routes will not solve Amtrak's financial problems. The Department of Transportation's Inspector General estimated that getting rid of all of these routes would only save Amtrak about $300 million, but because of mandatory labor severance payouts, it might be several years before Amtrak actually saves a single dime. In the meantime, the severance payouts would strain Amtrak's finances, starve good areas like the northeast corridor of essential maintenance money.
This is about ultimately degrading a national passenger system, a system that is critical after September 11.
The amendment is about our fundamental commitment to a national rail passenger network, a commitment that is an essential lifeline for people throughout the country, enhances our national security, eases congestion on our highways and our airports, and gives small and mid- size businesses the chance to sell their products and services at different points throughout the country.
Vote for the Brown-Menendez-Rahall-Cummings amendment. Make sure we stay together as one country.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
(Mr. MENENDEZ asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I want to rise in strong support of the Nadler-Velazquez amendment. And I appreciate the gentleman from Michigan's (Mr. Knollenberg) attempt to protect Section 8 in the bill. I respect his support for the program, but we are here about a debate in large respect about our values. That is what the budget process is. That is what the appropriations process is.
We speak to the different issues that we care about in this country and our personal values, and the total values of both our parties as well as our country are reflected in this national document that we call the budget and the appropriations process that fulfills that budget.
Now, when we think about values, what more values are there than of having a home, a place to call home, a place to bring your family, a place to bring your newborn child, a place where in fact that child is nurtured, a place where that child is going to study, a place where there will be celebrations, a place where difficult moments will be met together by family, a place that is secure and safe and warm and comforting and nurturing. That is a value when we talk about families because a family that does not have a home finds it very difficult to sustain itself as a family.
So this amendment strikes at the very heart of what we want to see, the ability of families to sustain themselves together in a nurturing environment that we call home. For too many people in this country, there is simply not a place for them to call home, and many times families are not even together because they are living with other family members. They are separated and apart.
So, ultimately, this is about creating an opportunity for more families to call someplace home, and I wish we were discussing an amendment that would be providing far more than $100 million for Section 8, but still, this move, this is a critical one towards fulfilling the gap that the bill leaves open. At a minimum, we should be able to meet the President's request which recognizes the shortfalls in the program last year.
Section 8 is our Nation's most successful Federal low-income housing program, but it has been the victim of continual underfunding, sweeping structural changes and last-minute policy changes.
I have seen that firsthand in my district the havoc that it wreaks on the lives of people who are in it, and the millions who are waiting throughout the country and certainly thousands that are waiting in my own district as they wait on the list, and they are told after waiting so long, oh, we are still further underfunded; we are not going to get to that list. Without warning or rationale, HUD has changed the formulas, capped funding, established policies retroactively, making it harder and harder for housing authorities to keep up.
Last year's appropriation left a shortfall of 80,000 vouchers. What will it be this year, 100,000? The ongoing shortfall comes at a time when the administration has also put forward a proposal that dramatically threatens the future of Section 8, and finally, at a time when the cost of living is rising, when rented housing prices are increasingly out of reach, particularly in high cost areas like New Jersey, the answer to these obstacles should not be weakening the very program that provides assistance to those who depend on it most. If home is where the heart is, let this Congress not be heartless and not make more people homeless at the end of the day.
Mr. Chairman, it is a sad day when I am rising in support of an amendment that would provide only $60 million for this critical program.
But this is the situation in which we find ourselves with this bill, when priorities of the Republic budget are focused elsewhere and we are sent a budget that puts the future of our Nation's housing programs in jeopardy.
While I am relieved to see the Committee has rejected the extremely unsound proposal to rescind the funding we appropriated for this current Fiscal Year, I find it hard to comprehend that this bill still provides no funding for Hope VI.
Just to provide some perspective, we should realize that HOPE VI funding for the last two fiscal years combined is only roughly half of the funding level provided in 2003.
I think part of the problem my colleagues have is trying to quantify the success of this program.
Mr. Chairman, I understand it is very hard to see the accomplishments of this program on paper.
There are not clear numbers of statistics that make it easy to put it in a bureaucratic category that proves it is ``demonstrating results.''
But Mr. Chairman, I can tell you personally of the success this program has brought, not only to communities in my district, but across the country.
HOPE VI has successfully transformed some of the nation's most dilapidated public housing into revitalized mixed income communities, providing a second chance for neighborhoods that often had little or no hope of improvement.
I have seen the transformation HOPE VI funds have brought to communities in my district and around New Jersey.
I have stood at communities that have been completely rebuilt, where renovated townhouses replace crumbling buildings, where senior centers and new playgrounds invite the community in, instead of shut it out.
Because cycles of poverty and crime are likely to be concentrated at the most distressed and run-down public housing structures, there is often little chance for changing
the surrounding community without providing a clean slate for the site.
HOPE VI proves neighborhoods with that chance.
What I think many have forgotten today is that this program was born out of strong bipartisan support.
HOPE VI began in 1992 with the express goal of demolishing and revitalizing 86,000 units of distressed housing.
Mr. Chairman, I have heard arguments that there is no longer a need for the HOPE VI program.
Are we really saying there are no more crumbling housing structures that are in need of repair?
Are we telling our communities struggling to find some hope of a better future that their neighborhood has no chance of revitalization?
That their children will not get a safe playground, that their family will never have a home they are proud to live in because the goals of HOPE VI have been accomplished?
Mr. Chairman, while we may have surpassed the original goal of transforming those 86,000 units, the program has not lost its need or effectiveness.
The fact remains that there is an ongoing need for fundamental revitalization in communities across the country that HOPE VI makes possible and which is currently unmatched by any other program.
HUD itself has noted the effectiveness of HOPE VI in affecting positive change beyond the housing structures and well into the community.
Perhaps most importantly, however, HOPE VI funds have become a critical source for localities to leverage private funds.
HOPE VI is thus not only a mechanism to bring about change, but it is a mechanism for drawing in critical investment.
Without HOPE VI as the incentive, communities will lose out on sources that are essential to ensuring true revitalization.
This program is a promise to people that if they live in a building that is unsafe, dilapidated, and beyond disrepair, we will not abandon them.
And it is a promise to our communities that our commitment continues far beyond the public housing structures we provided years ago--that we will be there to help all of communities be neighborhoods where we would be proud to raise our families.
Mr. Chairman, now is not the time to abandon our communities.
This program has provided many families and communities throughout the country hope of a better quality of life and we should not deprive additional communities of that chance.
Mr. MORAN of Virginia. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of the amendment offered by the gentleman from Alabama, Mr. Artur Davis, which would restore funding to the Homeownership and Opportunity for People Everywhere program, more commonly referred to as HOPE VI.
The HOPE VI program is one of the Department of Housing and Urban Development's most successful programs, and it is a shame that it is one of the many valuable and worthwhile Federal programs that the Bush administration has targeted for elimination.
HOPE VI allows public housing authorities to revitalize neighborhoods affected by blighted public housing districts, and transform them into showcases of urban renewal and redevelopment.
For over 15 years, first as Mayor of the City of Alexandria and now as a Member of Congress, I have been involved in the revitalization of the former Samuel Madden public housing project, in the area known as the ``berg.''
While Samuel Madden was once a well-intentioned effort to provide affordable housing for those in need, it had become mired in controversy and the focal point of criticisms and problems synonymous with troubled public housing programs throughout the nation.
In 1999, the Alexandria Redevelopment Housing Authority received $6.7 million dollars in HOPE VI grant funds to redevelop the 100-unit Samuel Madden public housing site.
This new project, Chatham Square, is a 152-residential unit development, 52 of which will be affordable rental homes operated as public housing units, and 100 of which will be market-rate townhouses for sale to the public.
This former public housing site has now become an inclusive community that is a mix of market-rate and subsidized public housing and continues to serve the needs of moderate and low-income residents.
Last year, I was proud to stand with representatives from the Alexandria Redevelopment Housing Authority and other City of Alexandria leaders as we attended the celebration and ribbon-cutting ceremony of this new development. The cornerstone of the event was the presentation of house keys to the first residents to move into the development: one who bought a market-rate townhouse and one who receives assistance with housing needs.
The Chatham Square project serves as a model for what public housing should become and identifies a successful mechanism through which this transformation can occur.
I have already shared with you a successful HOPE VI program from my congressional district, and there are thousands more all across the nation.
While the Bush administration may be critical concerning the HOPE VI program, it does not deserve to be gutted in next year's budget.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.