Madam President, I want to speak briefly on the clear violation of Judiciary Committee rules that occurred last week in our executive business meeting. It was a sad moment for our committee and does not bode well for the harmonious…
Madam President, I want to speak briefly on the clear violation of Judiciary Committee rules that occurred last week in our executive business meeting. It was a sad moment for our committee and does not bode well for the harmonious functioning of the committee this year. I believe that a discussion of this issue is also relevant to our debate of Miguel Estrada. In both cases we are talking about rules that protect the rights of the minority in this body from being run over by the majority. And in both cases we are talking about the use of those protections by the minority not to stonewall or block action by the majority indefinitely but to seek information about nominees that has not been forthcoming.
Let me quickly review the background of what happened last Thursday. All of this goes back, of course, to our duty under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, which specifically provides that the President shall appoint judges to our courts ``by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate.'' The Senate's role is not just a matter of historical tradition, or comity with the Executive Branch, it is constitutionally mandated. All of us on the Judiciary Committee, and in the full Senate take this responsibility very seriously.
One of the ways that we exercise our constitutional responsibilities in this area, on behalf of the Senate and our colleagues who are not on the committee, is to closely examine the records of judicial nominees. We do that in part by holding hearings so that nominees can be questioned about their records, their judicial philosophy, their previous writings, their judicial opinions if they are currently or have been judges on other courts, and their views on legal issues. These hearings are not a mere formality, they are crucial to the role of the Judiciary Committee in carrying out the Senate's constitutionally mandated responsibilities.
This year, it appears that there is an effort underway to push through nominations in the shortest possible time. Prior to the President's Day recess, the committee held three nominations hearings in three weeks. By February 12, the committee had held hearings on five circuit court nominees. This is an extraordinary pace, particularly when you consider that the earliest that the committee had held hearings on five circuit court court nominees during President Clinton's term was April 29. In some years, that milestone wasn't passed until June, July, or even September, and in 1996, the committee never held a hearing on a 5th nominee to the circuit courts.
So this effort really gives the impression of a forced march. Our constitutional responsibilities are being subjugated to a schedule that seems to be aimed at forcing nominations through as quickly as possible, without regard to the Senate's prerogatives.
The Democrats on the committee have not tried to block all of the nominees. We voted on Miguel Estrada, and Jeffrey Sutton, and Jay Bybee in the ordinary course of business on the committee. But when it came to two other nominees, Justice Deborah Cook, a nominee for the Sixth Circuit and John Roberts, nominated to the D.C. Circuit, we tried to draw a line.
The reason we made that effort was that Justice Cook and Mr. Roberts were both considered in a single hearing on January 29th, along with Jeffrey Sutton, who was reported to the floor just prior to the recess. Actually, it is misleading to say they were considered in that hearing. They were all sitting at the witness table, but the vast majority of the questioning was directed to Mr. Sutton. There simply was not sufficient time for members of this committee to examine the other nominees.
A number of Senators asked repeatedly that further hearings be scheduled so that Senators could examine Justice Cook and Mr. Roberts. We even made the offer to have a single additional hearing for these two important nominees, even though we would prefer to examine a single controversial nominee at a time. We were rebuffed at every turn, even when it became abundantly clear that the single hearing would not suffice to let members of this committee examine the records of all of these nominees.
The single hearing that was held on January 29, 2003, on these three nominees was unprecedented. Never before has the committee held one hearing on three circuit court nominations over the objections of the minority. Indeed, it is highly unusual for the committee to hold a single hearing on even two controversial nominees, as a 1985 agreement among Senators Dole, Byrd, Thurmond, and Biden demonstrates. That agreement was that only one controversial nomination would be considered at a time. It gave the minority some control over the pace of nominations, without of course giving it any kind of veto.
A number of Democrats on the committee raised the need for an additional hearing on Justice Cook and Mr. Roberts publicly during the hearing and privately during the breaks. We have repeated that request to the chairman of the committee on many occasions subsequently.
Early last week, when it become clear that the chairman would not schedule a second hearing so that Justice Cook and Mr. Roberts could receive proper consideration by the committee, we tried another approach. The nominees had said they are available to meet with us to answer any questions we have. So we sent a letter to the White House and requested that the two nominees make themselves available for a meeting to answer further
questions. In order to be able to proceed quickly in the committee following such a meeting, we suggested a joint meeting that Senators could attend at different times based on their individual schedules. We stated that we would have a transcript of the meeting prepared so that we could refer back to the nominees' answers, and that the meeting would be open to the public.
The response from the White House, which has repeatedly offered to have nominees meet with us privately was an immediate ``No.'' The immediate and unqualified refusal to our reasonable request seem to be part of the forced march. The Administration seems to be saying, ``We are to going to jam these nominees through, our way, regardless of how reasonable your request is.''
So that left us with only one option: To delay the vote on these two nominees until agreement could be reached on a further hearing, or some substitute for it. Some Senators on the Democratic side were simply not prepared to vote on Justice Cook or Mr. Roberts. We did not believe the committee has been given adequate opportunity to assess the qualifications and examine the record of Justice Cook and Mr. Roberts.
So when the chairman of the committee asked for a vote on Justice Cook, we objected. The proper course under our committee's longstanding Rule IV was for the chairman to hold a vote on a motion to end debate on the matter. The Rule provides that debate will be ended if that motion carries by a majority vote, including one member of the minority. In this case, our side was united in opposing ending the debate, so the motion would have failed. It is, in effect, as the chairman of the committee himself recognized in 1997 when the Rule was invoked in connection with the Bill Lann Lee nomination, a kind of filibuster rule in the committee. The vote to end debate is like a cloture vote, and it cannot succeed unless at least one member of the minority votes for it.
Now I have heard the argument, made by the chairman of the committee in a letter to the Democratic leader, that this rule was designed to allow a majority of the committee to force a so-called ``rogue chairman'' to hold a vote on a matter when he doesn't want to, but not to limit the chairman's ability to call for a vote over the objections of the minority. That is clearly an erroneous interpretation. It conflicts with text of the rule, the practice of the committee for 24 years under five separate chairmen, including the current chairman, and with the history of the rule itself.
The rule was adopted in 1979 when Senator Kennedy chaired the committee. The committee at that time had 10 Democrats and 7 Republicans. Until that time there was no way to end debate in the committee. Recent years had seen controversial matters such as the Equal Rights Amendment stalled in committee. The Civil Rights era had seen the committee headed by a segregationist chairman block civil rights legislation by allowing it to be filibustered and never voted on. Chairman Kennedy sought a new committee rule to allow him to bring a matter to a vote. His original proposal was simply to let a majority vote of the committee end debate. On January 24, 1979, he proposed such a committee rule.
Republicans on the committee, including Senator Thurmond who was the ranking member, and Senators Simpson, Dole, Cochran, and Hatch, spoke up to protest that the minority should retain the right to debate a matter for as long as it felt it needed to. The next week, the committee reached agreement and adopted Rule IV, which has been in effect ever since. The compromise ended the ability of one or a few Senators to tie up the committee indefinitely. But it gave the majority the power to end debate if it could convince one member of the minority to agree. That was the compromise reached, and that is the rule we have had for over two decades.
The chairman's argument that the rule places no limit on his ability to end debate is clearly answered by this history. It is clearly wrong. The committee rule was violated when Justice Cook and Mr. Roberts were reported over the objection of some members without a ``cloture vote'' in the committee. There is simply no question about this.
It is very disappointing to have to discuss and debate committee rules on the floor of this body. This might seem like a petty matter. But it isn't. Honoring the rules of the Senate and the rules of the committees gives credibility and legitimacy to the work we do here. Rules are the hallmark of a democracy. In many ways our rules are analogous to the rule of law in our society. We have to respect those rules or we have nothing left.
In situations like these, I often think of the words of the great philosopher Sir Thomas More as portrayed in the play ``A Man for All Seasons.'' More questions a man named Roper whether he would level the forest of English laws to punish the Devil. ``What would you do?'' More asks, ``Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?'' Roper affirms, ``I'd cut down every law in England to do that.'' To which More replies:
And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round
on you--where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?
This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast .
. . and if you cut them down . . . d'you really think you
could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes,
I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.
It is clear from the history of Rule IV that it was insisted on by Republican Senators then in the minority to preserve their rights in committee. They should not cut down that forest just to have their way now that they are in the majority. We cannot permit that kind of results-oriented approach to the rules of the committee or of this body. The rules of this body, like the laws of this country, protect all of us. We must stand up to efforts to ignore them. What happened in the committee last week did not reflect well on this body. I sincerely hope that the chairman will reconsider his rulings and return some comity to our proceedings.
Let me just finally say that I voted Present on both Justice Cook and Mr. Roberts. I have not made a final decision on their nominations. I could very well support one or both of them here on the floor. But I think the committee must hold a proper hearing on them, giving all Senators a better opportunity to be well informed on these nominees before exercising their constitutional responsibilities.