Mr. Speaker, at this time I am pleased to yield to the distinguished majority leader, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay), for the purposes of informing us of the schedule for next week and, perhaps, the coming weeks. Mr. Speaker, I yield…
Mr. Speaker, at this time I am pleased to yield to the distinguished majority leader, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay), for the purposes of informing us of the schedule for next week and, perhaps, the coming weeks.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I am not sure by the announcement regarding next week's schedule. Is it the gentleman's expectation that we will be in next Friday or not?
I yield to the gentleman.
All right. So we will be off Friday. Now, is the gentleman pretty definite on the following Monday that we will be in at 6:30 as opposed to the normal Tuesday?
Mr. Speaker, I thank the majority leader. Last week we passed a continuing resolution until November 21. The gentleman did not indicate in his discussion of the schedule for the next 2 weeks the balance of appropriations bills that are pending, nor did he mention an omnibus appropriation bill. Can he clarify and give us his best thinking at this point in time as to where we are on the CR for November 21 and being able to leave on November 21? I know the gentleman mentioned the possibility of being here on Saturday, November 22. And does the gentleman expect any appropriations bills other than the energy and water, which he did reference would be on the floor either next week or the following week?
I yield to the gentleman.
Reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman for that information. If that occurs, as the gentleman says may happen, if that occurs, can you give us your current thinking with reference to the date to which a further continuing resolution would be targeted?
Reclaiming my time, Mr. Leader, the FSC bill, Foreign Sales Corporations Extraterritorial Income legislation, you did not mention that. Can you tell me when or if you expect that bill to come to the floor? I yield to the gentleman.
Reclaiming my time, we too are concerned about the WTO's finding of noncompliance and the EU's assertion that if we do not act by the end of the year they are going to act. That is a $4 billion item possible cost to this country.
My understanding is the gentleman from California (Mr. Thomas) has a bill. As the gentleman knows, there is an alternative available which, I think, frankly enjoys bipartisan support, at least the letters that are being sent around to colleagues would indicate that. In light of the fact that we want to pass legislation, Mr. Leader, can you assure us that the Crane-Rangel-Manzullo alternative would be allowed as a substitute to that piece of legislation to assure that we could, in fact, pass something?
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for that observation.
With respect to the Labor-HHS-Education bill, which is the largest appropriation bill, as the gentleman knows, that still is outstanding, do you expect that we will have a freestanding conference report on that bill, or do you expect it to be rolled into an omnibus?
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, as the majority leader knows, there is substantial concern on this side of the aisle in this part of the House that some 206 or more districts, perhaps, will be left out of this bill in terms of consideration for individual
education and/or health projects. I want to express our great concern about that. There has been a lot of discussion about it in the press, a lot of discussion about it on the floor. The gentleman does not necessarily need to comment on it, but I want to emphasize to him the great concern that we have, as two people who have served on the Committee on Appropriations. The majority leader is not on the Committee on Appropriations now, but he has served on that committee. I am not sure he has been on there 2 decades, but a long time. If that occurs, in my memory that would be the first time.
Now, of course when Mr. Natcher was the Chair, there were no specific projects delineated for individual districts listed in that bill. But from the time that that started to be done in the mid-90s, this is the first time that I can recall on this bill or any other bill, that there has been a blanket preclusion of over 200 districts from participation in the investments made in those bills in the welfare of the American people. So I want to express that. The gentleman does not need to respond to that. I will yield to him if he wants to make a comment. He does not need to respond, but I want to reiterate that.
Mr. Leader, on the conference report on energy, I also want to ask you about the labor-health because of the magnitude of these bills.
The energy bill, obviously, is a major piece of legislation, an important piece of legislation. For the past several weeks you and I have been talking about conferences. You indicated this bill is coming to the floor. I again bring to your attention, Mr. Leader, that our Members appointed by the Speaker to the conference have no knowledge of a meaningful conference having been held on this bill. They do not have any meaningful knowledge of what might be in the bill.
That is true as well, I will tell the leader, of the labor-health bill. I am a conferee on the labor-health bill. I have received no notices of meetings. I have attended no meetings. I have learned of no meetings with respect to that bill. The lack of the ability of Democrats to participate in these conferences, again, I tell the leader from my perspective, is unprecedented. It is certainly not unprecedented when Members meet with them. One side of the aisle would talk about their strategies, their priorities, their objectives. But, historically, when conferences have met, both sides have been invited to attend. There has been discussion about issues.
The energy bill which is contemplated to come to this floor next week, I tell the gentleman, our side does not perceive that has happened. They have not participated. And I know that there has been a pledge that the conferees will at least, even though they are not participating, not invited, not able to articulate their view, will at least get 48 hours receipt of the conference report for the opportunity to review it for 2 days before it comes to the floor.
I ask the leader in the case of the energy bill, will that be the policy on this side of the aisle and, therefore, if the energy bill is coming on Wednesday or Thursday, will the conferees receive at least a copy of the conference report no later than Monday?
Reclaiming my time, the key phrase there, Mr. Leader, is should a conference be required. You are having meetings. We know that. You are having discussions. We know that. I reiterate again, notwithstanding all your numbers there, the Democrats are not included.
I will tell the gentleman further, as he knows, that in the other body the bill that passed the Senate was the Senate-passed bill from last year. Senator Domenici, who is one of the conferees on the floor, said we are going to substantially rewrite this bill in conference. So the debate on the floor seemed somewhat irrelevant. It was a device to get them to conference.
So this conference, more than some others where real bills were passed in both Houses, is a very important venue for the formulation of policy. Democrats are not being given access to those considerations in a full manner. But I am pleased, Mr. Leader, that 48 hours prior to the conference meeting, that we will be getting, whenever that may occur, that we will be getting a copy of the marked up proposal so that we can consider that, digest it, and bring our views to the conference.
I assume, Mr. Leader, that that conference will be unlike the FAA conference to which this body recommitted a bill, which never met as the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Mica) pointed out on the floor, it never met, and as the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier) has lamented and, as a result, you have to waive the rules.
Mr. Leader, with respect to Medicare, we are in the same position. Do you expect the Medicare prescription drug bill to be on the floor any time in the next 2 weeks?
I thank the gentleman for his observation; but, Mr. Leader, let me say something. Really what you just said is the gentleman from California (Mr. Thomas) is meeting with all those who seek to improve the legislation. Improvement, of course, is in the eye of the beholder. There are 435 Members elected to this House, Mr. Leader, as we all know. Their perspective on what improves or harms legislation differs, sometimes very substantially. But
our Founding Fathers, Mr. Leader, formed a House representing a diverse American public, from many regions of this country, many areas of every State. Every State has differences within that State. My State does. Your State does.
To say that the gentleman from California (Mr. Thomas) is only going to talk to those that he perceives as interested in improving that legislation is to say that a bill that passed this House by one vote after the roll was kept open for some 45 minutes is to say that at least half of this House will be excluded.
Mr. Leader, that is not in my opinion and in the opinion of this side of the aisle, and I believe in the opinion of the American people, the way they expect this House to run. It is not the gentleman from California's (Mr. Thomas) view of what improves or does not improve this bill that counts. It is each of us who are elected to represent our constituents and put on the table the alternatives we believe improve that bill. They ought to be considered. We do not believe that is being done, Mr. Leader.
Reclaiming my time, Mr. Leader, you and I may have a different perspective obviously. You recall, as I have discussed in the past, the Patients' Bill of Rights. Everybody was for the Patients' Bill of Rights. In fact, in the 106th Congress, as the leader will well recognize, when he was the whip and responsible for counting votes, the Patients' Bill of Rights passed this House with over 250 votes of people who saw it in a way that ought to pass, ought to be the law of the land.
As you will recall, the Speaker appointed eight out of the nine Republican conferees who had opposed the bill. Now, maybe that is the way the House in your recollection has always worked where 250 people vote for something. It never came out of conference, not surprisingly, when you had eight out of nine of the Republican conferees in the majority that opposed the bill that were in the conference. So apparently if it is on your side of the aisle and you oppose something, locking it up in conference is okay. If you are on our side of the aisle and you want to see a Patients' Bill of Rights or you want to see a Medicare prescription bill and you want to see a prescription drug bill that does not eliminate Medicare, that provides for affordable and accessible health care at a price that can be afforded by all of our seniors, then somehow you are perceived as not wanting to improve the bill and, therefore, is not worth being included.
As you know, the gentleman from New York (Mr. Rangel), one of the senior Members of this House, the gentleman from California (Mr. Thomas) tried to have arrested not too long ago and thrown out of the Committee on Ways and Means by the Capitol Police.
You will recall that the gentleman from New York (Mr. Rangel) has now gone to where the conferees, theoretically, were meeting and was asked to leave. The gentleman from New York (Mr. Rangel), the ranking Democrat on the Committee on Ways and Means, one of the seniors.
Now, I will remind the chairman that Mr. Rostenkowski chaired this committee and invariably made sure that Republicans were, in fact, included, and invariably when bills came to the floor, he had Republicans supporting those bills and they worked with him. And you will recall that he worked with the President of the United States when we were in the majority to pass the 1986 tax bill. So that may be your recollection, Mr. Leader, of how the House runs.
Reclaiming my time, I agree with the leader. We disagree. Our recollections are not the same. Our experiences are not the same.
Now, I have been here a little longer than the leader, but we have both been here a long time, and when we were in charge you complained as well. Therefore, you can empathize, as you say, with the pain that we feel in the minority.
But it is not the pain that we feel is so important, we want a bill. We may want a slightly different kind of bill than we think that the majority will report out on prescription drugs, but we want a bill. And the people who supported us want a bill, and they may want a bill that is slightly different; and democracy works when all sit down together and discuss their perspectives and try to forge a bill which accomplishes their objective. I do not think we are doing that. I lament that, and I do not think it is in the best interests of the American people.
Mr. Speaker, it is not in the quality of legislation that both the gentleman from Texas and I want to pass, even if we see that quality somewhat differently. I thank the gentleman for the information he has given us.