Mr. Speaker, I take this time for the purpose of inquiring about the schedule. Mr. Speaker, at this time I yield to my friend the distinguished majority leader for the purpose of discussing the schedule for the coming week and perhaps the…
Mr. Speaker, I take this time for the purpose of inquiring about the schedule.
Mr. Speaker, at this time I yield to my friend the distinguished majority leader for the purpose of discussing the schedule for the coming week and perhaps the weeks thereafter.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank the majority leader for his information.
Just to reiterate for the Members, am I correct that we will have votes starting at 6:30 on Monday?
Then we will be going in at 9 a.m. on Tuesday?
Which is different, a little earlier. I thank the gentleman for that.
The continuing resolution, Mr. Leader, you point out there will be a continuing resolution that, perhaps, will be considered next week. The current one goes to October 31.
Can you tell the Members what date you contemplate the continuing resolution going to?
So am I correct then that the contemplation would be that the CR that we would consider next week would go until November 7? I know that is not firm, but is that your current thought, that that would be the objective?
I yield to the gentleman.
Reclaiming my time, with respect to the appropriations conferences, I know the chairman is on the floor, but could the leader tell us which conference reports are most likely to be on the floor and will those be, I take it, single in nature, that is to say, a conference report on one of the appropriations bills, as opposed to an omnibus bill or a multiappropriation bill piece of legislation?
Reclaiming my time, I will certainly not ask you which party is in charge of the other body. That might not be an appropriate question on the floor of the House. But having said that, Mr. Leader, the chairman, again, being on the floor, I am on the Labor-HHS committee, and I have not attended any meeting of any conference committee on the Labor-HHS bill. You say it is in conference. Where?
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I am sure if it is up to the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations I will be; but in a nonhumorous, but still friendly way, we are very concerned on this side, Mr. Leader, when we hear you announce that there are conferences going on, that conference reports may come out and, to our knowledge, we have not been invited to any conferences. We have not sat down to try to resolve differences in the bills.
As the gentleman knows, the labor-health bill in particular was very controversial on this side of the aisle. We want obviously to participate and try to resolve those differences and try to address those deficiencies that we see. Therefore, in light of the fact that we are going to be leaving tonight, tonight is Friday, not coming back until Monday night, and if we have a conference report, presumably that has to come out and the staff work is going to be done, because we cannot have a conference Tuesday morning or Monday night; no conference has been called as far as I know on the labor-health bill, and we cannot have the committee staff do its work between Tuesday
morning if we had a conference and Tuesday afternoon, that just will not work, for us to consider the conference report.
So we have a concern on our side of the aisle, Mr. Leader, in terms of how conferences are being carried out and, frankly, the definition of what a conference is now-a-days. A conference seems to be the appointment of conferees on either side of the aisle, and then the ranking Republican, either of the committee or subcommittee, meeting with the ranking Republican or Chair of the committee or subcommittee in the other body; and that is now called a conference. That may be a meeting of your side of the aisle, but it is not our perception that that is a conference as we have historically known it.
When we were in charge, frankly, I did attend on a regular basis conferences with both sides of the aisle, with my ranking member when I chaired the Subcommittee on Transportation, Treasury and Independent agencies, and where the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell) and his ranking member attended when they had conferences. I do not mean that they did not discuss things, but I think it is appropriate for us to voice that concern.
Next, on the Iraq supplemental which we have just passed, do you expect a motion to go to conference next week on that? I yield to the leader.
The gentleman mentioned also, Mr. Leader, reclaiming my time, the energy conference report. How likely is it that we will have that on the floor next week? Is the gentleman pretty confident that that will be here? I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman for that information. I would reiterate, having discussed with the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell), who is, of course, the dean of this House and has 50 years of experience in this House, his concern that he is not sure what is going on in the conference on the energy bill. He is not sure what the schedule is on the energy bill. Neither his staff nor he know what product is going to be reported out.
Again, we are meeting next week for maybe, if we go late into the night, maybe 10 hours, 15 hours next week, and without really having had the opportunity to be fully involved in that conference. As a result, if that happens, our conferees on our side are not going to have any time to consider that substantively, not to mention the Members who will not have time to consider it in a very substantive way.
So I do not think there is any way to solve it now, because as far as we know, there have been no meetings of the conference scheduled. We have not been noted for conferences either Saturday, Sunday, or Monday. So that if something is going to happen, it apparently is going to happen without a formal meeting of the conference if that conference report comes to the floor on Tuesday.
I do not know whether the gentleman wants to comment on that. That is just our concern, Mr. Leader.
I am glad to yield.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I am not sure how that is going to happen, Mr. Leader. I hope it happens. I hope the gentleman's representation is carried out, but it is hard to see in the next 72 hours how that can be effected, not counting the balance of today.
In any event, can the gentleman tell me if the gentleman expects the conference report to include the Clear Skies initiative? Does the gentleman have knowledge?
Yes, sir. Does the gentleman know that?
I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. Speaker, I do not know, but I do know that our conferees again who have not been included in the discussions are very concerned about an issue that is rumored to be included in the conference report that has not been debated at all by either the conferees or by the House. So I raise that concern and would hope that the gentleman would raise that concern with the Chair of the conference committee.
I know today is the day the congressional Republican leaders have articulated as the day that they would complete the conference on the Medicare prescription drug bill. Could the majority leader bring us up to date on the status of that and when, if the gentleman expects between now and November 7, for that conference report to be brought back to the House. I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, of course, as the gentleman knows, we all would like to have a bill; but there are, obviously, differences of opinions as to what ought to be included in that bill, which always makes the legislative process difficult and time consuming. But this is another example, Mr. Leader, whereon Mr. Breaux and Mr. Baucus on the Senate side have been included, to some degree, in the conference. However, on this side, none of our Members have been included in meetings related to the policies that ought to be included in the conference report.
I have mentioned now the appropriation bills, the energy bill, and now the prescription drug bill. It is of great concern to us that there is an obvious pattern of not including the minority, who are appointed conferees by the Speaker, not including them in discussions. And in light of the fact that there are no meetings formally of conferences and are not noted for conference meetings, it is impossible for us to know, A, what is going on; B, to have input; and, C, reach any kind of an agreement which might make the passage of prescription drugs, child care tax credits, an energy bill, appropriations bills, or any other legislation on behalf of the American public, made easier. I do not know if there is anything further the leader can say on that.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I do not want to be very confrontational, and I do not think these colloquies ought to be confrontational; I think it is a good discussion, but I think the gentleman needs to know honestly our view on this.
Let me remind the gentleman of the Patients' Bill of Rights. It passed the 106th Congress of this House with some 60-plus Republicans. However, the gentleman indicates that conferences are being held with people who want to pass a bill. The Speaker, as the gentleman knows, appointed over two-thirds of the Republican conferees who voted against the bill, and that bill never came out of conference. We were not surprised. In the 107th Congress, we were precluded from having a bipartisan bill because the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Norwood) concluded that he was going to withdraw from discussions with the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell) on that.
So with all due respect, Mr. Leader, if you make a judgment that you are not going to include people that you think do not have the same view that you have or that your chairmen have or that your Chairs of subcommittees have, then calling them conferences, we believe, is not appropriate. They may be meetings; they may be meetings of the Members of your side of the aisle who have responsibilities for the bills, but they are not conferences in any classic sense of bringing together the two Houses and all of the conferees who were appointed by the Speaker, not by us.
Conferees are appointed by the Speaker. We are not given any notice of hearings, we do not attend any hearings. And for the gentleman to say that people are meeting, we do not doubt that. We think the gentleman is absolutely right. We hear about those meetings. We read about those meetings. We read about the large conference on the energy bill when the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. Tauzin) and Mr. Domenici get together and talk. We think that is appropriate. They ought to do that. They need to do that. It is their responsibility. But it is not a conference from our perspective. And there is not an opportunity for us to sit down and represent the point of view that we bring to the table, that we have been elected to put forth.
I am glad to yield to my friend.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman for his observation; and, obviously, he and I disagree as to how this process occurred when we were in charge and how it is occurring now. But the gentleman and I have both had the privilege of being on the Committee on Appropriations for many years.
The gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) is now, as the majority leader, not on the committee because he has been elevated to his present position. But the gentleman and I have sat in many conferences together, he on one side of the aisle, me on the other side of the aisle, in which we had probably 30 members of the Committee on Appropriations from our side, usually eight or nine from the majority side, 12 or 15, so 20 to 25 Members, and discuss issue by issue and go through it. That is what we expect the conference to be, because that is what we expect the democratic process provides in a conference committee to resolve differences that might exist.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I want to assure the majority leader we want a prescription drug bill. We have been fighting for a prescription drug bill, but that does not necessarily mean we want your prescription drug bill. We want a bill that has the support of the majority, the American people, and that we believe we can have. We are fighting for such a bill.
We want an energy bill. We think this country needs an energy bill, certainly in light of the August 14 blackout in the northeast. We think we need to address that issue.
So let me assure the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) that we want to see these bills passed. But let me also assure the gentleman that if the condition preceding to having a conference in which we are included is saying that we will agree to it as it passed the House, if we oppose it, that is neither a reasonable request on your part, I believe, nor is it the expectation of either side that they be included in a conference only on a condition that they will agree to what the leadership wants to do.
I think we have probably discussed this sufficiently, but it is a real concern that we are not including both sides in these conferences. Because on the energy bill, I do not believe there has been a conference nor does the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell) as we understand a conference. But we have a different view, perhaps.
Mr. Speaker, unless the majority leader wants to make additional comments, I would yield back the balance of my time.