Mr. Speaker, it is my privilege this evening to be joined by some of my colleagues. We went to Iraq a few weeks ago. We find a lot of conversation on the House floor about what should and should not be done, and so we would like to take…
Mr. Speaker, it is my privilege this evening to be joined by some of my colleagues. We went to Iraq a few weeks ago. We find a lot of conversation on the House floor about what should and should not be done, and so we would like to take this opportunity to discuss what we saw.
I guess one of the main objectives tonight is to inform the public that this is not always a highly partisan issue. The Members that went to Iraq were both Republicans and Democrats. We got along very well. We continue to get along very well. Sometimes the general impression that is conveyed by conversation on the House floor is that we are always at each other's throats and that this is what politics is all about. I think this is very misleading in many cases; and as a result, we hope to have a bipartisan discussion tonight of those events that we encountered as we traveled overseas.
Those who went with us were the gentleman from New Hampshire (Mr. Bradley), the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Beauprez), who is here now, the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Davis), the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Neugebauer), and the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Udall).
As we talked to the soldiers over there, we often heard this comment: there seem to be really two wars. There is the war that ofttimes is seen on television; and certainly the bombings, the beheadings and all the really violent things we see are very true, they are part of this conflict; but also the soldiers would continually mention the fact that there is another war that they are seeing, another war they are fighting that ofttimes is not conveyed over the airwaves. So we would like to really discuss these issues.
I have made three trips to Iraq. I have been to Afghanistan, Kuwait, and Jordan twice, Landstuhl Air Base in Germany a couple of times, and Walter Reed many times. So I have had many chances to talk to the soldiers. And I guess the thing that continues to impress me and the overwhelming impression that I get is the efficiency of our Army, the sense of mission, the sense of accomplishment, and a generally upbeat attitude.
Now, certainly being in Iraq or Kuwait or Afghanistan, or in a hospital, cannot be an entirely uplifting experience; and there is some hardship and there is some difficulty. But, still, it seems the soldiers are amazingly intact and amazingly upbeat when you consider their circumstances.
I will just mention two things on this trip and then turn it over to some of my other colleagues here for discussion. The first stop that we had in Iraq was at al Asad. Al Asad is a base out in the desert. It is in al Anbar Province, which is the largest province in Iraq. It is a desert area. It is becoming a fairly dangerous area because many of the insurgents have been driven out of the cities and are now in the desert. So it is a fairly wild situation.
In my previous trips, again I had always had a fairly positive reception from the troops. But as we landed in al Anbar, I thought, well, this is the place where I am going to start hearing the complaints. Because there was not a blade of grass, there was not a tree, obviously very little to do socially, and quite a large number of troops out there. There are two groups from Nebraska, one was a medical troop and one was a transportation group. So I spent quite a bit of time talking to those soldiers, probably met about 100 of them personally, and there were about another 80 who were out on patrol. Again, the same attitude that we had encountered other places was very prevalent. They were proud of what they were doing, they had a sense of mission, and generally were very positive about what was going on.
So that trip, the first part, was, again, somewhat of a surprise in view of the surroundings. The second area that I want to mention was towards the end of our trip. We went to an Iraqi women's caucus, and this caucus was held in Jordan on the banks of the Dead Sea. And the reason we went over there was that we had formed an Iraqi Women's Caucus for Women's Issues here in Washington.
The genesis of that caucus was simply a conversation between Paul Wolfowitz, Jennifer Dunn, and myself, where we began to speculate on the role of women in the new Iraqi government as the war progressed. And we began to talk about the fact that women would certainly play an important role; that women ofttimes are the peacemakers; and possibly to have a positive resolution to this whole conflict would have to involve the women of Iraq.
So we began to move forward on this. Iraqi women were brought to the United States. And part of this movement was to bring Iraqi women over to the Dead Sea, out of Iraq, where they could learn a little more about democracy and strategies in terms of running for office and so on.
So there were 1,000 women who applied for 250 spots at this seminar. And so we met with those 250 women. They came by auto, and they came from all
points in Iraq. And they were stopped for about 12 hours, most of them, at the Jordan border. They could not get in the country. So that was difficult. Three carloads of them were fired upon as they went across al Anbar Province. And of course there was a great deal of danger and a great deal of risk. Two of the women we had had over here in the United States as part of the caucus had been killed during the elections, when they ran for office. So it was a very dangerous business.
As we interacted with those women, we had some interesting conversation and we picked up some general themes, and those themes were reinforced by three women who were from Iraq who were in my office yesterday. Essentially, what these women were saying yesterday and also several weeks ago was very similar. They said, first of all, we now have a sense of hope. We have a sense that the future is going to be reasonably bright. We appreciate freedom.
They pointed out that there is now a great deal of marriage going on in Iraq, where under Saddam, for many years, very few people got married because of the situation. They have noticed a resurgence of entrepreneurial activity. They are pleased with the number of women in government. There were roughly 80 out of 275 spots in the constitutional convention that belonged to women. Schools have been renovated. Attendance, particularly by women, has gone up in the schools. And, of course, a great many of the children, about 97 percent of the children, have been vaccinated.
Now, we do not mean to paint an entirely rosy picture. The women I saw yesterday, the women we saw in Iraq said that security is a major problem. They live with some sense of fear almost all the time. They mentioned problems with the infrastructure. Electricity still is a problem. In many cases, it is on only about half the time. The thing about it now, though, is different than under Saddam. Under Saddam, there were certain areas, where his people were, that had very good electrical service and the rest of the country had no service at all. Now there is service all over the country, but many times people have only intermittent service.
Sewage disposal is still a problem, water problems still persist; and the job market is not what we would like to see it, but it is better than it was before. And of course the other issue is there has been a resurgence, particularly as it relates to women to fundamentalism. Sharia, the rather fundamental interpretation of Islamic law, sometimes is regaining a hold in terms of how women are perceived and how they feel they should be treated or are treated.
So it is a mixed picture. But still, overall, they say they would not trade their present situation with the insecurity that they are now experiencing for what they had under Saddam and feel they are generally much better off.
So with those prefatory comments, I would like to yield to my colleague from Colorado (Mr. Beauprez), who we really enjoyed being with and spending time with. And so I will let each Member have a shot at it, say a few words, and then we will all have a dialogue as time goes on.
Mr. Speaker, I yield now to the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Beauprez).
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Beauprez) for those observations. Many people do not realize that life does go on in Baghdad. There is a degree of normalcy. It has been almost universal, my experience with the troops, who have indicated that their number one desire is to get back to their units, some who have even lost limbs.
Mr. Speaker, I would now like to yield to a very unusual Member. He spends a lot of his time in the House gym. He has been up on Everest several times. I do not know if he has ever made it to the top. He has climbed a lot of the highest mountains in the world, and has become a great friend.
We have actually been to Iraq twice, and he even wore a Nebraska football hat as we flew over Baghdad, so Members can tell he is an unusual person. I am referring to the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Udall), and I would appreciate any recollections the gentleman has of the trip.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Colorado for his
insights. He has been a great guy to travel with, a great person to get to know, and certainly someone whom I admire a great deal. You mentioned being at Landstuhl. All of you remember the young guy whose name was Chris Ruehl. He had been shot and been in an ambush. This guy was interesting because I thought, if I was coaching a football team, I would like to have a whole bunch of Chris Ruehls, because he had this hole in his shoulder, but he got up and he was explaining what happened. Then he gets out his camera, and he is showing us pictures that he took while he was getting shot at. I thought, you know, this is one brave guy. I tracked him down, I got his cell phone, after he got back to the United States. He was all geared up, ready to go back. He wanted to get back in the fight.
An interesting guy, an interesting time. The gentleman from Texas (Mr. Neugebauer) is next. He and I made a couple of trips. We were in Afghanistan and Iraq together and Kuwait, and then this last trip. I am interested in hearing his insights into what he saw and what he remembers. Even though it has been 6 weeks ago, I am sure he remembers a lot.
The gentleman from Texas has been a great guy to travel with. I have had some good experiences.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to call on the gentleman from New Hampshire (Mr. Bradley). He and I had not traveled before, so I got to know him a lot better. He is really a very astute individual, a lot of insightful questions.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman for his insights. We were at Abu Ghraib also last September, and at one time Saddam Hussein had been told he had too many people in the prison and to get rid of 2,000. The ones that he did not like a whole lot, but did not hate, he hung. And the rest of them, he put
in the wood shredder. It is unbelievable that one human being could do that to another, but in one day he got rid of 2,000 to get the numbers down to where he felt it was more comfortable.
The last person I would like to yield to is a great friend of mine, and we cochair the Congressional Prayer Breakfast on Thursday morning. So tomorrow morning we will be together. And that is the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Davis). We sat across from each other for about 14 hours going over, and I learned how to speak Tennessee during that period of time. The first 3 hours I did not understand him, but as time went on, I got to understand him really well.
We really had a great time with the gentleman. We put him in the Dead Sea, and we could not even sink him in the Dead Sea.
So, Mr. Speaker, I now yield to the gentleman from Tennessee.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman for his comments. And we will not even get into that elephant that was hung in his district. That is for another special order.
I just want to mention the bravery of Iraqi officials. We kind of stick our necks out here a little bit, but over there when they run for office, they are literally putting their life on the line and their families. And that jumped out at us.
The other thing I might mention is that General Casey mentioned to us that he thought things were going better since the elections, but he said the wild card here is the issue of the Sunnis, are the Sunnis going to be incorporated?
That is still up for grabs. So we do not want to leave the American people with an impression that everything is perfect. There are still problems. But I think anyone who goes there and spends time there, spends time with the soldiers, from either party, we may disagree on how we got there, whether we should have gone there, but you have to be impressed with the soldiers in this situation.
If anyone has a closing comment for the good of the order, we would be glad to hear it from any of you.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, it makes it all work.
Mr. Speaker, I have enjoyed this. We enjoyed the trip and thank all of you for participating tonight. Again, we tried to show that a lot of us do get along pretty well. Some of the best hours here are in the gym and places like that, where we do not really have an identity as Republicans or Democrats, and we simply come together and try to solve problems in the country.
I was honored to have time with these gentleman. I thought I learned a lot. I learned a lot from the Iraqis, but I learned a lot from you, and thank I you for participating tonight.