Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the bill (H.R. 163) to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of…
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the bill (H.R. 163) to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Is that a parliamentary inquiry?
I know the gentleman thinks it is. I am waiting for direction from the Chair.
Mr. Speaker, I would say I support the consideration of the this bill at this time.
Mr. Speaker, I fully support the consideration of this bill at this time.
Mr. Speaker, I would say, if I may, in response to the gentleman's claim, that I am disappointed he has less faith in his power of persuasion than I do, because I came here prepared to be persuaded. But if I must decide now, I would vote no, so I do not claim to be a proponent of the bill.
Mr. Speaker, that leaves me where? I would claim the time in opposition.
Under the rules of the House, I would claim that time in opposition.
Mr. Speaker, I believe the time has already been claimed.
Mr. Speaker, as a matter of comity, I would be happy to split the time in opposition with the distinguished gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton), the ranking member on the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I do not think there is much controversy here. Nobody is going to vote for this bill. If it were controversial, I think we would have a very close vote here. I doubt we will. In fact, I was not going to raise a point of order. I will not. I would ask the Chair rhetorical without expectation of a response, what happens when the sponsor claiming the time in support of the bill actually will vote against it? It will be interesting to see how the final tally is actually taken.
I am fascinated. I have a great deal of respect for the gentleman from New York, my fellow New Yorker, but I find it a bit amusing at best to hear him claim that the reason that this is a controversial issue is we read about it on the Internet. The only thing we read about on the Internet is what some of his colleagues are planting with respect to that.
The basis for our being here today is simply to answer the concerns of the
American people that have been created by political forces who are trying to create controversy where none should exist. The administration clearly, the Department of Defense clearly, and I suspect that at the end of this vote it will be shown the House of Representatives clearly rejects the fact, either before an election, at election or after election, that there is a need, there is a rationale, for returning to mandatory conscription by the United States military.
I would say to the gentleman from New York that he is the only sponsor of a bill in my 12 years in the House that is complaining that his bill has been brought to the floor. We have a great deal of respect for the gentleman. I suspect and I strongly believe he put together his bill with a great deal of conviction and belief, and we felt it time, given the Internet discussion and all the other absolutely baseless charges that were floating about, that this issue be put to rest, not for the issue and not for the concern of politics, but for the comfort of the American people who have been whipped into a frenzy unnecessarily about this issue.
Now some may say today that this legislation is really about the need to establish a system of national service--an attempt to instill in our youth a sense of responsibility and a clearer understanding of the sacrifices made over many years to win our freedoms--and what it takes to better secure our future. And I would say--that is a legitimate topic of discussion--an area that perhaps merits exploration.
But the clear objective of this bill--and the undeniable intent of recent claims of secret plans and post election plots is focused on a return of the draft--forced military conscription.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman from Michigan feels it is inevitable, he has a chance to vote for the resumption of the draft, if that is what he wants. By the way, he said the bill was introduced 2 days ago. I suspect he misspoke. It was introduced in January of 2003.
Mr. Speaker, I am happy to yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter), the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I am stunned by the fact that my friend from New York stands up in his beginning comments and sites the reason we have to deal with this is because the Internet is saying so, and then criticizes people that it is an Internet rumor. He seems to be very comfortable with his Presidential candidate's position of being everywhere at every time.
Also, I would just say to the gentlewoman from California, who complained about her bill and increasing end-strength, the House Committee on Armed Services which, as we will remember, has already passed a bill into the House and we are in conference with the Senate, would increase end-strength by almost 40,000 troops. So we have responded to that this year and have for the past 2 years as well. Frankly, we did not need her bill.
Mr. Speaker, I am happy to yield 1 minute to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Hayes), a distinguished member of the House Committee on Armed Services.
(Mr. HAYES asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentlewoman's comments, and it proves perfectly why we are here tonight because that is what the message is the American people are listening to, what the gentlewoman just said. And there is one way to dispel this, and that is to defeat this. No President can impose a draft without the consent and the approval of the United States House of Representatives. It will not come tonight or at any other time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 10 seconds to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay), the distinguished majority leader.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
There are few people I have more respect for than the gentleman from Pennsylvania. He made a very eloquent argument, very correctly, for an increase in end strength, not to a return of the draft and for the problems that that would create.
We have an end strength increase of 40,000 in our bill in the House that has passed, and there is a conference with the Senate. Those are the people we need, and we should move on that and not a draft.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Wilson), a distinguished member of the Committee on Armed Services.
(Mr. WILSON of South Carolina asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks, and include extraneous material.)
Mr. Speaker, perhaps the gentleman's heard of the 9/11 Commission.
I am happy to yield 1 minute to the gentleman from California (Mr. Cunningham), a distinguished member of the Committee on Appropriations.
Mr. Speaker, I am happy to yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Kingston).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Hayworth).
(Mr. HAYWORTH asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the distinguished gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Buyer), a veteran of the first Gulf War.
(Mr. BUYER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Saxton), a senior member of the Committee on Armed Services.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, very simply, this is a bill that is necessary to be dealt with in what I agree is perhaps an unconventional way, but nevertheless has caused great anxiety, great fear and concern amongst mothers, fathers, and children. This is a way to put the fear aside. That should be a primary duty of the House of Representatives. And, as I suspect even the proponents will, a ``no'' vote is the right vote.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks on the bill now under consideration, H.R. 163.
Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not present.