Providing for consideration of the concurrent resolution (H. Con. Res. 95) establishing the congressional budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2004 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2003 and 2005 through 2013.
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Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
March 20, 2003 • 1:35 PM
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March 19, 2003
The House Committee on Rules reported an original measure, H. Rept. 108-44, by Mr. Hastings (WA).
March 19, 2003
Provides for three hours of general debate with two hours equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on the Budget and one hour on economic goals and policies equally divided and controlled by Representative Saxton and Representative Stark. Provides that the amendment in the nature of a substitute specified in part A of the Rules Committee report accompanying the resolution shall be considered as adopted in the House and in the Committee of the Whole. Makes in order only those amendments printed in part B of the Rules Committee report which may be offered only in the order printed in the report, may be offered only by a Member designated in the report, shall be considered as read, shall be debatable for one hour equally divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent, and shall not be subject to amendment. Permits the chairman of the Budget Committee to offer amendments in the House to achieve mathematical consistency. Finally, the rule provides that the concurrent resolution shall not be subject to a demand for a division of the question of its adoption.
March 19, 2003 • 10:33 PM
Placed on the House Calendar, Calendar No. 15.
March 19, 2003
Considered as privileged matter. (consideration: CR H2138-2145)
March 20, 2003 • 12:30 PM
DEBATE - The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H. Res. 151.
March 20, 2003 • 12:32 PM
The previous question was ordered without objection.
March 20, 2003 • 1:34 PM
Passed/agreed to in House: On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by voice vote.(text: CR H2138)
March 20, 2003 • 1:35 PM
On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by voice vote. (text: CR H2138)
March 20, 2003 • 1:35 PM
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
March 20, 2003 • 1:35 PM
Floor Debate
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Floor Debate
23 membersWhat members said about H.Res. 151 on the floor
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I would like to begin by thanking our staff from the Committee on the Budget. They have worked enormously hard to bring us to this point in…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I would like to begin by thanking our staff from the Committee on the Budget. They have worked enormously hard to bring us to this point in time where we are able to come to the floor to talk about the budget. Usually we reserve this to the end of the debate, but I just want to thank them because we are at a very unique time in our history. It requires some difficult choices. It requires us to analyze the situation very carefully. We have good people that work for us in both the majority and minority. I want to thank them for the work that they do. They have been asked to do a job, they do it, they do it well, and we find ourselves on the floor ready to debate the bill on time and ready to debate the budget within the procedure that we laid out at the beginning of the year.
Similarly, we ask young men and women overseas to do a job today. They are doing it in fine fashion. They represent us well. They represent our hopes and our dreams. They represent our freedom. They represent America. We are proud of our troops. We are proud of the job that they do, and we are proud that they do the job without blinking an eye, without any hesitation.
I believe they would ask the same of us here today, that while there are certainly trials and tribulations that confound us around the world today, that we do our work, that we are not distracted by a tyrant in Baghdad, and we are not distracted by terrorism around the world. It would be very easy to be distracted by that. It would be very easy to suggest, let's maybe wait for another day. But I think what America demands is that we continue the work of freedom, we continue the work of democracy. That is what they are fighting for, and that is what we need to do as well.
Mr. Chairman, we are at war. I did not have to practice that part of the speech because we were at war even before last night. We are at war against
international terrorism. The President determined that soon after September 11, 2001. That war continues. The fact that we opened up another front last night and that we will continue to pursue that front should not deter us, and we need to plan for it within our budgets. We need to take that into consideration as we debate this budget here today. So we are debating a wartime budget at a time during very difficult economic challenges and at a time when we face deficits for this foreseeable future.
None of us, at least most of us, do not want deficits. In fact, I said in my very first opening statement at the committee this year that I do not like deficits, I do not want deficits, and I will not pretend to this body, to my colleagues, to the President, to the Senate, or to my constituents at home that deficits do not matter. However, we are faced with that; and all of the yelling and screaming and all of the finger-pointing in the world and all of the things that might go on here today will not change that fact, and in fact no one today is bringing forth a budget that balances today or even this year or even next year.
In fact, none of the budgets before us balance, and there is a reason. Because this did not just happen overnight. While there are some who will come here today and blame and finger-point and suggest that the surpluses disappeared because of tax cuts, I would suggest that there are many reasons, many reasons why we face deficits here today.
It is true that just 2 years ago we faced surpluses and we decided to do something about that. We made a very deliberate decision that when Washington has more resources than it needs to meet those challenges in peace time at that time, that it is appropriate to say let us get the economy going again. Remember where we were, the economy was sluggish. President Bush came into office facing a recession. So we decided we were going to reduce taxes and certainly the tax reduction did reduce the surplus. That is represented by this blue amount.
But spending and the economy took most of the surplus and spending on what? An emergency. September 11, 2001, the emergency facing New York, the emergency facing the Pentagon, the emergency facing the airlines, the emergency facing homeland security. In an appropriate bipartisan response, every one of us came to the floor and said it is time to increase spending for those very appropriate purposes. And in addition to that in a bipartisan way, we came to the floor and said we need to cut taxes even further in order to stimulate the economy because the preattack recession got worse. So cheerfully, as a body, we decided it was time to spend a little bit more, stimulate the economy; and as a result, the tax cut took part of it, the spending took part of it, but the economic changes, the economy, the gut punch that each one of us faced whether it was home savings, whether it was increased prices around the kitchen table we had to deal with, whether it was just balancing our own budget around our kitchen table with our family, each one of us was affected by what happened in September of 2001, and certainly it affected our budget.
So we can finger-point, and we can talk about the past, and we can talk about Reagan and Clinton and Bush and, I do not know, maybe somebody even mentioned Roosevelt here today. The fact of the matter is that we are in deficit and we have to do something about it. But we do not start behind the eight ball. We build upon some huge amounts of spending.
Let me show what we have been doing the last 10 years around here. Cheerfully, and again oftentimes in a bipartisan way, look at the spending, each year increasing. In 1993 when President Clinton took office, we had a $1.4 trillion budget. What are we proposing today? $2.1 trillion, a 50 percent increase just since 1993, 4.5 percent each year. So when people go home and they start talking about how kids are going to be thrown out in the street and education is going to be cut and health care is going to be ruined, please remember that before we even talk about this year's budget, we have been increasing spending steadily during that period of time, and I will tell my colleagues when it really took off. When it really took off was when we got to balance in 1998.
Let me show what I mean by that. If we take the spending that we control every year, called discretionary spending or the spending from the appropriation bills, discretionary spending was holding its own, holding its own as we tried to get to balance since we became the majority, and then at 1998 all of a sudden look at it take off. In 1998 we had about $511 billion spent on discretionary spending, and just this last year in the bill that we just finished a month ago, we were at $768 billion, or an average of 7.7 percent each year since we reached balance. So when people talk about how, oh, boy, this cut is going to be tough or there might be ways that this could hurt folks or, boy, there is not a lot of waste, fraud abuse or excess, please remember that we build upon a huge base of spending in discretionary.
Let us look at some of the individual programs. I have heard a lot of talk lately about how Medicare is being devastated by this budget, budgets that were proposed, budgets that we will vote on here today, and budgets that we will consider. Since 1995 when the Republicans took the majority of Congress, we have increased spending for Medicare 56 percent. Was that appropriate? Yes. No one is suggesting it was not, but when people talk about how Medicare is being devastated, it is not because of the spending that Medicare is in trouble. It is because the way the program operates. I can tell you in Iowa people are very happy with Medicare; so to suggest that all we need to do is add more money into Medicare and everything will be fine does not recognize that Iowa does not get a fair shake from Medicare. Many other States, Wisconsin and others, do not get a fair shake from Medicare. So to suggest that all we need to do is pile more money on to Medicare, do not touch the program, just add more benefits and everything will be fine is sticking our heads in the sand. It will not work. But again we build upon some huge increases.
I have heard Governors suggest that Medicaid is in trouble and how the Federal Government has not done its fair share with regard to Medicaid. Look at the Medicaid budget since we became the majority in 1995. It was $89 billion of our budget. Today it has increased 77 percent since we became the majority. We have supported the health care for the poor and the disabled in this country to the point now where again we will continue in this budget to increase Medicaid.
Let us look at education because oftentimes education is used in a partisan way to suggest we do not care about children. Education spending under the Republican majority has doubled. It has doubled. Special education has tripled as a result of the Republican majority again as we move into this budget. This is what we build upon. There are accomplishments that we should be proud of. But when people whine and complain and suggest we are not spending enough, can we ask the question, what did we get for this? Which is why last year we said we need some accountability within our system and not just pour more money into it.
I have a number of very important constituents in my district who are veterans who before last night did their part to defend America and give us the ability to stand here today in peace and freedom in this country and debate issues of importance. And what have we done for them? Again, we build upon some important accomplishments. Spending has grown 40 percent since we reached balanced budget, an average of 6.9 percent each year. This budget will continue that trend with a 7 percent increase for veterans healthcare spending.
So let us look at what the budget is going to do. First of all, I want to put it into context. There is no question that we have three important issues as we come to the table today to discuss the budget, and some of these are even bipartisan, believe it or not. Number one is protecting America. There is not a person who is going to come to the floor today who does not feel that that is the most important thing that we do, and I compliment all of the budgets with regard to that issue. When it comes to homeland security, when it comes to national defense, certainly there will always be those who say we
can do more. In fact, there has even been a few who have suggested that there is a lot of waste within the Pentagon, and I would concur with that. But at this time in our history where our men and women are in the battlefields of Kuwait and Iraq and Saudi Arabia, we need to make sure that we support them; and each one of the budgets that comes here today does just that. It also supports homeland security.
The second most important issue that we have is making sure the economy gets growing again, making sure folks have a job. Because while we are going to talk a lot today about the Federal budget, we all know that the most important budget to each and every one of us is the one that I debate with my wife around my kitchen table and that my colleagues may debate with their families around their kitchen table and our constituents debate with their families around their kitchen table when they are trying to figure out how to pay the phone bill and the light bill and the college tuition and buy the clothes for their kids and the washer that breaks down or whatever it might be. That is the budget that matters; and if one does not have a job and if the economy is not growing in their household, it does not matter what we are debating.
Get a fancy chart. It does not matter what the fancy chart says if one's checkbook does not balance. So unless our budget puts as a top priority getting the economy to grow and create jobs, we have failed, in my estimation, and that is why the most important second issue that we put forth today is getting the economy to grow. It used to be a slogan. I remember hearing it a few years back: ``It's the economy, stupid.'' Maybe that was not an appropriate way to say it, but the point of the matter was important. Make sure the economy is taken care of.
The third issue, and it is an important one as we look forward into the future because again I think there is bipartisan support for this as well, and that is fiscal responsibility. We have all given spellbinding speeches about how the government cannot spend more than it takes in. But do my colleagues know what? There are some times when that has to happen, and by and large we agree when those times are. When there is a war, I do not think anybody begrudges anybody to borrow some money to do that. We have got to take care of business, and we will spend anything it takes to make sure we win and our folks have the right equipment and the right training. The second time we do it is when our country is under attack. Homeland security, again, each and every one of us came down here and cast a vote in support of homeland security spending even though it caused deficits. And there is another time we would do it, and that is when we have a recession or an economic downturn, and both parties during their histories have had to make that challenge. So while we are faced with those challenges, we still want to keep our eye on that fiscal responsibility.
So how do we do it in this budget? We ask a simple thing. We say out of the billions of dollars that we spend around here, do the Members think we could find a penny on the dollar? Most people back home in Iowa tell me I bet we could find a nickel on the dollar. In fact, we have heard amazing stories of people who are deceased getting checks from the Veterans Administration. We have even heard of Social Security recipients who are overseas that we send a check to. We have heard about food stamps that have been stolen. We have heard about all sorts of crazy things involving credit cards at the Pentagon where people have been using it for their own personal expenses.
Tell me there is not a penny on the dollar. Tell me that the earned income tax credit has not been abused. Tell me that Medicare, according to the General Accounting Office, has not had overpayments and erroneous payments. Tell me that at the end of the year bureaucrats do not run in to their boss and say, You know what? We have got extra money in our budget. We had better use it or we are going to lose it. And what we do in this budget is we say each and every committee can find that, and is it not now the time to find it when every State and every family and every business is doing the exact same thing? The Federal Government cannot do that too?
So fiscal responsibility is an important part of it. But we are still going to hear people come to the floor today and talk about deep and devastating, ``excruciating'' was a word I have heard recently, deep and excruciating cuts. Let me show the Members what our budget does. First of all, total budget, here is our budget. This is where we actually are, and look what happens under the budget. It goes up every single year in total spending. So the total budget is not cut.
Let us look at another area. Let us look at non-Social Security mandatory spending. What is that? That is Medicare and all the other, what we call, entitlements or automatic spending. Does that get cut? Every year it has been going up. Every year under the budget it continues to go up.
All right. Well that is not cut.
Let us look at Medicare maybe, see if Medicare is cut. Under our budget, every year it goes up. In our budget it continues. In fact, we say let us modernize it and put in, for the fourth year in a row, a Republican version of a prescription drug package. We are the only body that has passed one, and we will do it again this year, to make sure we modernize the program and make sure that reimbursements and other modernizations for the Medicare program help ensure its seriousness as a health care delivery program for years into the future. So Medicare is not cut.
Well, all right, let us look at total discretionary spending, which includes defense and homeland security. No, that is not cut. Every year it has gone up. In fact, look what happens here. Huge increases. It looks like it slows down here.
Why does it slow down? Because this is where the budget asks for some relief. It says this first year, outside of defense and homeland security and veterans, we just want to look for a little bit of waste, just a little bit of waste.
If there is a Member of Congress that goes home to tell their constituents that there is not any waste in Washington, I want you to ask them if they have read the volumes of General Accounting Office reports that indicate billions of dollars of waste, or the inspector generals that work for the departments that have identified billions of dollars of waste, or if they have talked to the Congressional Budget Office or held hearings on this in committees, because until they do that, do not tell people that there is not wasteful Washington spending. We know there is. For the first time in quite a while, we go after it.
Are we looking to cut some spending there? Yes. But do not believe that we are going to throw people out on the street. You do not have to do that in order to find the waste within the program. Everybody has heard about the $500 hammers and the toilet seats in the Pentagon and all those kinds of crazy programs that we hear about all the time. That is what we are asking people to go find, a penny on the dollar. That is not that much to ask, when we are at the same time running the kinds of deficits we find ourselves in.
So protecting America, that is first; getting the economy to grow, that is an important second thing to do; third, let us do it in a fiscally responsible way. I believe if we build on those three functions, without raising taxes, without huge spending increases, I think we can get this under control, support our troops in the Gulf right now and around the world defending our freedom, and do so in a way that is fiscally responsible, and gets us back to balance in a very reasonable time.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, as I said, we built our budget upon three principles, the first of which is protecting America.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Thornberry) to discuss that issue.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 15 seconds.
Mr. Chairman, in Washington sometimes people define cuts not as less money than the year before, but as decreases in anticipated increases. The gentleman who just spoke has issued yet a new one, that is, if we used to have a draft of a budget that possibly found some savings, now we can come and claim that as a cut. We are not cutting Medicare; we are increasing it.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Kansas (Mr. Ryun) to continue the discussion on national defense.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Brown).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Garrett), a member of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Schrock), a member of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 10 seconds.
Mr. Chairman, I have to scratch my head and wonder out loud how, when we increase the veterans budget in our budget 6.1 percent, the other side of the aisle can call that a cut, yet that is what Member after Member comes to the floor and says.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Portman), a member of the Committee on the Budget, to discuss the second important plank of our budget, and that is economic growth and job creation.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 15 seconds.
Mr. Chairman, just to respond to the points on the veterans' issues. First of all, we increase discretionary spending 6.1 percent on veterans, we increase the mandatory spending 7 percent, and they call that a cut. They ask us to honor veterans. In fact, in this country we honor veterans so much that we paid 5,500 of them benefits after they were dead. That is how much we honor veterans. That is why we need to look at every program for waste and abuse.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Barrett).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Bonner), a member of the committee.
(Mr. BONNER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. McCotter), a member of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Mario Diaz-Balart), a member of the committee.
(Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, could I inquire how much time is remaining on both sides.
Mr. Chairman, that sounds pretty close. It is about as balanced as any of the budgets.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. Vitter).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Hensarling), a member of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 15 seconds.
I have been looking through my budget, and I cannot find one of the facts that the gentleman just stated. Not one of the cuts he just stated is in my budget document. I have looked through there. I cannot find them. I do not know where the gentleman is coming up with these numbers.
I will say this, though: the person I would like to introduce next to speak basically wrote title II, which is our reconciliation construction regarding waste, fraud, and abuse, asking the committees to go out and look for those instances of waste, fraud, and abuse, ways that we can find deficiencies within this budget, and that is the very distinguished gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite).
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to my friend, the gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. Shays), the very distinguished vice chairman of the Committee on the Budget, to close the debate.
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as I may consume. I respectfully claim the time in opposition. Mr. Chairman, obviously I support the work of the committee, the underlying resolution, the budget…
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as I may consume. I respectfully claim the time in opposition.
Mr. Chairman, obviously I support the work of the committee, the underlying resolution, the budget resolution that is forwarded today. I want to thank the Blue Dog Coalition for coming forth with yet another budget proposal this year. I believe this is a consistent track record for the Blue Dogs in providing a budget resolution for consideration. We will disagree with that budget here today as they disagree with our budget, but I want to start by complimenting them because even last year at a time when the minority did not come forward with a caucus position, the Blue Dogs did. And the so-called Blue Dogs in this instance have done so again and I want to respect that. Only people who have actually gone through the process of writing a budget know how difficult that task can be in making some of the choices one has to make in order to arrive at this.
I disagree with their approach, however, for a number of reasons. First of all, I do not believe what they are putting forward supports our economy. I believe what we need right now is a growth package. The President has put that forward. We indicated that the second most important part of our budget is providing growth to the economy to create jobs. We believe we need tax simplification. We believe we need tax reform. We believe we need to lower the tax on the American people at a time of recession, not just for the sake of lowering taxes but because we know, we have seen this happen in the past many times in history where when we reduce the tax burden on America, when we reduce it particularly to a level at or below the average of taxes and revenues compared to the gross domestic product, that that does have a growth effect, a stimulative effect, on the economy.
And so while we will agree today on national defense and homeland security, probably the biggest departure we will see between these two budgets is regarding growth in the economy and creating jobs. We just happen to believe on our side that getting a growth package through to create jobs is vitally important. We are also going to have a semantical debate here today. I do not want to throw gasoline on the fire, so I am going to try not to. But I have to say that if we are not going to continue an already-reduced reduction in taxes, I mean I do not know what we call that. I know many on my side have come down here and I know it makes my friends in the Blue Dog Coalition cringe when they hear it when we have heard on our side that that be explained as a tax increase, but you might be able to understand why you cringe when you see us cringe when a reduction in the anticipated increase is called a cut.
And time after time today we have seen Members come to the floor on the other side of the aisle and explain that we are making excruciating cuts in veterans and education and Medicare and Medicaid and all sorts of different programs when in fact that is simply not the case. One not only cannot find it within our budget document, but in fact that is not the choice that we request. What we request is that we go through the budget and we look for waste, fraud, and abuse and places where we have been spending money we did not have to, and we do not have all of them but these are just some examples that you do not ask us to go after: Foreign Assistance, the Effectiveness and Accountability of Problems Common to U.S. Programs, Taking Strategic Approach for DOD and the Acquisition of Services, Implementation of an Electronic Benefit Transfer System in the Food Stamp Program, IRS's Efforts to Improve Compliance with the Employment Tax.
I mean, all of these save money. All of these find places where we are just not doing a good job. All of these ought to be a hearing. All of these ought to be a place where we can introduce legislation and we can say that is not a cut. To go through this and to actually look at the General Accounting Office, and we pay them a lot of money. Talk about waste. If you are going to hire people to go through the programs from the General Accounting Office and then you do not even listen to them, my friend, the comptroller general, would not like my saying this, but why do we hire these folks to give us these good ideas of places we can reduce spending, not cutting benefits, not cutting services, not closing nursing homes, not cutting off senior citizens, not eliminating Meals on Wheels or food stamps or school lunches or, oh, my goodness, all of the things that people have come down here wringing their hands about today, but just going through here: Controlling the Weakness in Property Vulnerable to Improper Use, Loss and Theft. There is a real partisan issue, theft. I mean if we are stealing things from agencies, from departments, and I have heard everything from a 61-inch television; I mean, come on.
Does that balance the budget? No. We are not suggesting that alone balances the budget, but we have got to start somewhere.
I could go on. The Deteriorating Financial Outlook and the Need for Transformation in the Postal Service, Medicare, Medicaid, FAA. Here is one, let us see, Significant Weakness in the Computer Controls. And, in fact, I believe we spent $8 million trying to get the Department of Agriculture to go to a new computer system; and guess what, after I think 8 years and $8 million, they found out they could not go to the new system. So we just spent $8 million for nothing on that. Defense Acquisitions, Debt Collection, Food Stamps. Again, there is another one. But if we even look at food stamps, people will say we are somehow throwing the poor out in the street. Medicare, here we go again. Boy, do not touch Medicare, though. Do not even look there. Heaven forbid. It must be a perfect program. Just add more benefits, and it will be fine. I mean, we could go on and on. They are replete. I have got a whole pile over on this side. You do not look at that. And that is an important area where we believe it is time to challenge the committees to do the work to find the savings.
Last but not least, I believe that it is time that we do something together around here, and that is enforce the budget. I know that we are going to disagree today on a number of these topics. The thing that is so frustrating is when time after time Members, and it happens in the Blue Dogs, it happens on our side as well, where we come down here, we talk about our budgets and then during the appropriations process we blow through those things. We find different ways to come through the process without holding to the budget that we agreed to. I would hope that my friends in the Blue Dog Coalition more than anybody else, and I know they do, believe that once we have a budget, it is time to enforce it because if we cannot even enforce that, having this debate today is going to be meaningless.
So as I started off with today, we do not support just allowing these tax cuts to expire. We happen to believe that does increase the tax burden. We want to make sure that we have spending restraint. You claim to do it with interest payments; but we want to do it with actual spending, not just with interest payments; and we want to make sure that we figure out a way to grow the economy and create jobs. And for those reasons I respectfully oppose the Blue Dog budget, but wish them congratulations on actually creating one which is something that many people around here claim they want to do, but do not always accomplish.
I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
What?
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, I can tell the gentleman
why. It is a frustration of mine, and it is the reason why I put the budget out that I did this year.
When we got to surplus, and we have seen the chart, when we got to balancing and began going into surplus, particularly into discretionary spending, all of us around here very cheerfully started getting into a bidding war. We could do a little better than you in education, you could do a little better than us in health care. We went on and on and on.
Look at the charts in any of those categories. Once 1998 happened, as my friend knows, we could not say no to anything. It was very difficult to try to control that. That is just the discretionary side, which, as the gentleman knows, is only one-quarter of the budget.
On the mandatory side, think of the last time in a partisan or bipartisan way that we tried to take on an entitlement and even tried to control spending. My friend has quite a bit of control or interest in agriculture, as do I. I sit on a committee that has jurisdiction over Medicare and welfare. We did it in welfare and had some real success.
I just want us to start looking at that process again. That is the reason in this budget I challenge the committees. I do not do it myself. I do not try and tell my good friend on the Committee on Agriculture exactly where that ought to come from. But I do challenge him to look at the reports on food stamps and others and say, can we not do a better job?
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, that is a good point. But that is just the first year. We believe that we need to continue to control that spending in the outyears as well.
We also believe, and that is the reason why the budget was presented the way it was, that the President had some areas where we could control. This was true with President Clinton, President Reagan, President Bush, with all of them.
Congress is responsible for controlling spending under Article I of the Constitution. We like to blame the fellow down the street, but, more often than not, it is the people that we look at every day in the mirror that can do the best job at controlling spending.
As I say, I compliment the gentleman and my friends for putting together a budget. We respectfully disagree with that budget for the reasons that I state.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to hear more from my friends in the coalition.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 2\1/2\ minutes just to show my colleague from Mississippi, who does care about this; I do not begrudge him that at all. I just want to let him know that I also share in the concern over debt. But since he was slightly partisan about the issue, let me show my colleagues my chart that shows the difference between what the Democratic Congresses did versus the Republican Congresses.
We were the ones who paid down the national debt by almost half a trillion dollars until we hit this last crisis in 2001 involving the economy, involving the emergency spending, involving what happened with homeland security. Mr. Chairman, if my colleagues want to raise it to a partisan level of whose debt is whose, I can show my colleagues a chart that compares with the gentleman's partisan chart.
What I would rather do is say, look, we are in this together now. I can show a chart that goes back to Reagan. I can show a chart that goes back to Clinton. We can have a history lesson here all day long. We can yell and scream and point fingers at who did what.
Look, we are in a mess. My colleagues did not do it; I did not do it. I mean, there are three huge factors. We had emergency spending that no one, no one would have ever anticipated. What a huge economic sucker gut punch as a result of a recession that was made worse after 2001 and the terrorist attacks. Was there a component part of that of reducing taxes? Yes. We disagree. We deliberately reduced taxes at a time of huge surpluses because, yes, we were paying off the national debt, paid off over a half a trillion dollars of national debt.
So if my colleagues want to come down and point fingers and talk about the past, I can show my colleagues Reagan charts and Clinton charts and things like that.
I think we should talk about the future and what we are going to do about it. The Democrats have a plan. I compliment that plan, even though I disagree with it, because it does begin to address those issues. I have what we believe is a better plan. But let us talk about our plan and let us look forward. If my colleagues want to continue to point fingers on how we got here, my colleagues can take up the time for the substitute to do just that, but I believe we ought to focus on the future and what we are going to do about it.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I thank the gentleman, Mr. Chairman. I have enormous respect for the gentleman from Texas and for my friends for writing a budget, because writing a budget in Washington, D.C. for the Federal Government is not maybe the most challenging job in Washington, but it does have its moments of challenges.
Probably one of the biggest challenges in writing a budget, as my friends know, is when we have to explain to politicians who get elected by saying yes that sometimes we have to say no, or sometimes we have to do things that are difficult.
There is no question that when I wrote the original draft of this budget, I asked my colleagues to do something that was difficult. It maybe was more difficult than I had either the right to ask or the ability to ask; but I asked it, not because I thought it was easy, but because I thought it was important for us to at least begin the debate.
Particularly in Medicare, that is a debate that I recognize probably as being difficult maybe more than most Members because I have spent the last 12 years being stung by attacks from opponents back home who, in years where we did nothing to Medicare, were able to come up with phantom votes here and there suggesting that somehow, again, as a Republican, I think maybe just because I registered to vote as a Republican, that somehow I was cutting Medicare. It must be something that is just automatic when you become a Republican, it seems, these days.
But it could not be further from the truth. When it comes to our budgets in Medicare and so many of these programs, as my friends know, particularly since 1998, we have just been spending money around here like it is going out of style in every category. We almost cannot name a category that has gone down by any significant portion over the last 5 years, in particular, since we got the balance.
So it was not so much that I was saying cut, but I was saying slow down. That is all I was trying to say was slow down. That is what I was trying to say in Medicare was slow down. We had put $400 billion in. I asked them to look for that waste within Medicare. We know it is there. I have three great examples that came out of those blue books we were talking about.
The Medicare program pays as much as eight times, just think about this, I would say to my friends, eight times the cost of any other Federal agency when we pay for the same drugs and medical supplies. I do not know, maybe double would be a reasonable level; but eight times does not make much sense to me.
Medicare provides overpayments of $12.1 billion in 1 year. All right? That is just another example.
In 2002, it was estimated that improper, and that is in addition to overpayments, we are talking about just plain improper, fraudulent payments under Medicare were estimated at $13 billion. Let me quickly do the math: 13, 12, that is 25. We do not even know what the cost of the drugs are, but that is $25 billion in 1 year, as an example.
I do not know about the other Members, but that pays for a lot of prescription drugs for seniors. Just in the first year of the drug benefit that almost all of us support, we are only talking about $7 billion as a drug benefit. That is just the first year of the phase-in. That is three times, almost four times, the amount of the initial drug benefit we waste in the Medicare program. That is before we even talk about reimbursements.
My friend, the gentleman from Texas, and I have been laboring on the Rural Health Care Coalition since I think the day the gentleman walked in this place, and certainly the day I walked in. Medicare is not serving our seniors because of a crazy reimbursement system that has been out there. But we come down here to the well and we say, oh, gosh, do not touch that, it is Medicare.
Heaven forbid we would try and do something around here in any of these programs in order to try to control them, because around here in Washington our level of compassion and concern has been equal to the amount of money we are willing to put into the program.
So instead of saying to Medicare, the Defense Department, agriculture, I do not care what it is, instead of saying, where did that $13 billion go; we are not going to give it to you again next year until you find it, instead, what we say is, oh, quick, quick, let us pass a budget that puts in $400 billion more.
Let us hurry up and do that because heaven forbid we would look at a senior citizen straight in the eye and say, Do you know what? The program is not working as well as it should. It is not doing the job we promised; it is wasting money.
So that is what I was asking for. The gentleman is right, I did not get the votes for that. We will live to have that discussion another day because my guess is that in order for the actual bill to come to the floor, we are going to have to make some of those adjustments.
I could go on. That is the most politically sensitive one in the bunch. I could go on and on through less politically sensitive issues. But what I am asking us to do, and it is article 1 of the Constitution that I believe gives us that responsibility. The gentleman showed a chart that defines it by President. I could show a chart, and I know we are talking about the partisan jabs, I could show a chart that showed the exact same figures but showed them under Republican and Democratic Congresses.
It does not matter, as I said to my friend from Mississippi, it does not matter what happened in the past. It matters what we look to do in the future. My colleagues have got a plan. We disagree with it because it does not, we do not believe, do the one thing that we believe can help us here the most, and that is stimulate the growth in the economy that brings in so much of the revenue that we need.
The second thing it really does not do, and we disagree with the President on this, mostly not because we disagree with the President, but because it is our job to control spending. If we do not do it by the time the bill gets to his desk, it is not going to get done, and so that is why we asked for the waste, fraud and abuse within these reconciliation instructions.
Last but not least, and I think my friend wants us to yield, the balanced budget amendment, and I am a cosponsor and have been and voted for it. The one problem with a balanced budget amendment, of course, is it takes about 8 years to get it into place, and what we said in 1995 and what we are both saying here today in a bipartisan way, regardless of our plan, let us just do it. Forget about the amendment for a second. Let us do it. Let us actually go in
and balance it as opposed to just saying that we ought to have a constitutional amendment to do it.
The one thing the balanced budget amendment does provide is an exception. Two things actually. One is national emergency, and certainly I think September 11, obviously we in a bipartisan way agree that that is a national emergency; and the second is war, and clearly, we are in a war. So while I support that, I think we ought to just do it.
We put ourselves on a path under both of our plans, but we believe ours is a better path, and that is the reason.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from Texas for his comments.
As I say, I respectfully oppose the gentleman's and the Blue Dogs' substitute.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that the time in opposition be divided evenly between the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt) and myself.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Tom Davis), chairman of the Committee on Government Reform.
If the gentleman will yield, the gentleman is correct.
The gentleman is correct.
That is correct.
I believe that is correct.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Nebraska (Mr. Osborne).
If the gentleman will yield, I would be happy to respond.
That is my understanding. The budget is intended to protect farm programs and the crop insurance program. Our committee will work with the chairman and other members of the Committee on Agriculture such as yourself to ensure that we protect critical farm programs and the crop insurance program. This includes an adequate funding level for programs authorized under last year's farm bill.
The gentleman is correct. I appreciate his help and support in this endeavor.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 7 minutes. Mr. Chairman, my colleague calls this a wartime budget, but everyone should understand there is nothing in this budget to pay for the war in Iraq that is now…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 7 minutes.
Mr. Chairman, my colleague calls this a wartime budget, but everyone should understand there is nothing in this budget to pay for the war in Iraq that is now underway. There is not even anything in this budget to pay for the war against global terrorism which is being waged in places like Afghanistan.
The administration deliberately omitted any provision for those costs in this budget for various reasons. They claim that they could not estimate accurately what those costs are likely to be, but we all know that there will be what we call in this House a supplemental appropriation coming,
and it will run into billions of dollars, maybe 50- to $100 billion for the war in Iraq itself, and after that the postwar occupation will cost, the CBO says, between $1.8 billion a month and $3.8 billion a month.
We have a huge, huge cost item that is not included here. I say that because everyone should understand that there is no surplus left in this budget. My friends, proposing a tax cut now that is as large as the last tax cut we undertook in 2001 will only drive the bottom line of the budget deeper and deeper by the proposals they have made here.
Two years ago, we had the happy circumstance of a budget that was $5.6 trillion in surplus, or so we were told by our forecasters at the Office of Management and Budget in the Bush administration. Two years later, we open this budget season on a somber note, not just being at war, that is a grave situation, but that $5.6 trillion surplus, according to the Office of Management and Budget, is gone.
First of all, they said we overstated the surplus by at least $3.2 billion. The real surplus was not $5.6. We are now told it is about $2.4 trillion over the time period 2002 through 2011. Of that $2.4 trillion, OMB tells us $2.5 trillion has already been committed, mostly to tax cuts undertaken in 2001, and, to some extent, to defense spending increases and other spending increases. But, in any event, the surplus is gone.
We are actually in deficit as we stand here, and everybody is on notice that every dollar of additional tax reduction that you decree in this budget resolution will go straight to the bottom line. It will go straight into the deficit and add to the deficit, dollar for dollar. Knowing this, there is no way around it. What our Republican colleagues propose is they propose another $1.35 trillion in tax reductions, tax cuts, which will go straight to the bottom line and add to the deficit.
Here is the situation: This is the first table in CBO's analysis of a couple of weeks ago of the President's budget, which was sent to us about a month ago. Strikingly, if you add from 2002, the first fiscal year that the Bush administration was in office, through 2013, which is the last year in our 10-year budget time frame, the total amount of deficits that the Bush administration's fiscal policies will yield is $5.158 trillion. That is what they propose to add to this national debt under the Bush administration.
Now, my Republican colleagues, and I will give them part credit, saw this number, and I think they could not stomach it themselves, $5.158 billion under the Bush administration's fiscal policies. They undertook to provide some offsets. They did not give up the tax cut. No, they went with the full tax cut, or slightly less, but they undertook to come up with some offsets.
The first thing they proposed to do was to tell the Committee on Ways and Means, which has jurisdiction over Medicare, and the Committee on Energy and Commerce, which has jurisdiction over Medicaid, cut $372 billion out of those two programs.
They have now relented and backed off their own proposal. They reduced the instruction to the Committee on Ways and Means from $262 billion to about $62 billion, and they have reduced the instruction to the Committee on Energy and Commerce from $110 billion to $107 billion. But both of those cuts could come out of the two health care entitlements that we have in this country that so many people, maybe from 50- to 60 million to 80- to 90 million people, are dependent on. That is what they propose to do.
This budget says a lot about priorities. What happens with the rest of the budget in order to make room for this tax cut?
In saying it is a wartime budget, they attempt to make room in the rest of the budget, at least partially, to offset this enormous tax cut of $1.350 trillion. What does that mean? That means they cut with abandon, left and right. They cut our young, our children, in terms of education; they cut our seniors in terms of Medicare and Medicaid; and they cut some of the most worthy citizens in our society, the sick and disabled veterans. They put an instruction in this budget, which I cannot believe, and neither can any veterans' organization in America, to cut $15 billion out of veterans' disability compensation and some $12 billion to $13 billion out of veterans' health care facilities. They cut education by $40 billion below what is necessary just to keep it level with inflation. They cut Medicaid, as I said.
All of this is necessary to accommodate their tax cut. It is not necessary because of the budget circumstances we find ourselves in. This is self-inflicted pain. Yes, it will be painful if these cults are made, you had better believe it, but they are not necessary. You do not have to make them.
To prove it we have come up with a budget resolution about a better bottom line. We get to a surplus in the year 2010. It takes them until 2012 to get to a surplus. In the process of getting there, we have a lower deficit every year than they do, we accumulate $851 billion over 10 years less in national debt than they do, and we adequately provide for education. We do not eviscerate Medicare, we do not cut Medicaid, because it is already strained as it is, and we certainly do not cut our veterans in a time of war, or any time, for that matter, by $30 billion in just mindless cuts.
So there is an alternate way. There is a better budget. It is a fiscally more responsible budget, and it meets the obligations we have. Members of this House today have a stark choice, a clear choice, in terms of values, in terms of fiscal responsibility. The right vote is our budget resolution.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Mrs. Capps).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Emanuel).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Oregon (Ms. Hooley).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from Wisconsin (Ms. Baldwin).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Connecticut (Ms. DeLauro).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, we, too, fully fund homeland security. By the best of our reckoning, we are providing at least $24 billion over and above the increase that the President is providing. It is allocated among lots of different functions: community and regional development, the Justice Department. We have identified and also specified in a sense of the Congress that we have $24 billion there.
In addition, we have put into our budget resolution the stimulus proposal that we made on January 6 of this year. If it were adopted, there would be $10 billion for the States to undertake homeland security projects in places like seaports, which were woefully underprovided for.
In addition, Mr. Chairman, I would point out to everyone that in doing our budget, we have left a contingency reserve of $54 billion. It could be used for lots of things; but it could be used, among other things, for homeland defense and for national defense generally, if and when a supplemental comes.
I want to make it clear there is very, very little difference between us when it comes to national security, not at a time like this. We are fully providing for homeland security, and then some, in particular.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Davis).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, let me say to my friend, the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Brown), that this resolution on the floor calls for $15 billion in cost reduction of the veterans health care system. It also calls for a $15 billion decrease in mandatory programs, which means veterans' disability compensation.
We can argue over what is an increase or decrease, but every veterans organization in this town thinks that they are being hit and hit hard by this budget resolution. There is no doubt about it; it is still about a $28 billion or $29 billion hit after the minor modification the gentleman made to make this resolution presentable.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Moran).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 15 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Thompson), and I ask unanimous consent that he be permitted to yield blocks of time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Neal).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Oberstar).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Price).
(Mr. PRICE of North Carolina asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute, before yielding to the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Ford), to respond to our distinguished chairman, who wants to know where all these cuts we are alleging come from.
They come from the budget documents. His budget calls on the Committee on Energy and Commerce, for example, to reduce spending by $107,359,000,000. The only thing they can take that out of is the Medicaid program.
He calls on the Committee on Government Reform, which has jurisdiction over the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan and the Civil Service Retirement Plan, to effect cuts in those programs of $38,319,000,000 to achieve savings.
They are there. If you look at function 550 in this budget, which is the health function, if you look at the level of funding, it is $2.4 billion below what is necessary to maintain purchasing power. We say ``current services.'' That has got to come out of some of the organizations like NIH who get their funding from this particular function of the budget. It is there. No question about it.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Ford).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, let us just go to the bottom line and look at the differences between the two proposals that will be the chief proposals before the House when we vote tonight on the budget resolutions, the Democratic proposal and the Republican proposal.
As anyone who can see this chart can easily see, under our budget in every year from 2004, next year, through 2013, the Democratic budget has a lower deficit than the Republican budget, and by a significant margin.
What is more, every year our bottom line gets better and better and better, until in the year 2010 we are in unified balance. All accounts included, we have no more deficit by the year 2010. And we do not get there with improbable, unlikely spending cuts of the kind you have heard mentioned on the floor today. We get there with good, solid economics and with complete fairness to things that are important to us. It is a huge difference.
But this tells it all: Over that 10-year period of time, the cumulative difference between us and them, between Republicans and Democrats, between our resolution and their resolution, is $913 billion less public debt. So as we move from a deficit to a surplus, we accumulate $913 billion less debt than do the Republicans in their resolution. That is an enormous difference, particularly for anybody who says that deficits matter.
We insist that deficits do matter. This administration has taken a different attitude. The Director of Management and Budget says we should not start hyperventilating over all these deficits. We think they matter. We think in the long run they affect the growth of our economy, they affect jobs and things that matter to people, they affect the interest we have to pay on our national debt.
This is the difference between us and them. By 2010, we are in balance. It takes them until 2012 to get there. Along the way we accumulate $913 billion less debt. But what is most important is ours is feasible and credible and probable; theirs is infeasible, unlikely, and, to my way of thinking, unbelievable.
The Republican budget presents us with two choices: We will either have devastating cuts, in which event they may get to balance in 2012, or those cuts will not be achieved, in which event the deficit itself will have done devastating damage.
That is the choice before us, and that is why the Democratic balanced budget resolution is far and away the better choice for everybody in this House.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. Unfortunately, this Republican budget is likely to force the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure to slash the pensions of…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
Unfortunately, this Republican budget is likely to force the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure to slash the pensions of 34,000 Coast Guard retirees and 645,000 railroad retirees and their dependents and cut the relief provided to families of the victims of September 11.
Who in this House believes that we should cut the September 11 Victims' Compensation Fund to finance tax cuts for the rich? As a Nation at war, who believes that the men and women of the Coast Guard protecting our shores, ensuring the safe passage of U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf should be worrying that Congress might cut their retirement?
This budget shows a callous disregard for the families of the victims of September 11, the men and women of the Coast Guard, railroad retirees, as well as the infrastructure needs of this country.
The budget resolution directs the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure to cut $3.7 billion for mandatory programs over the 10 years and to find savings from waste, fraud, and abuse and produce greater efficiency. Those platitudes may make for good rhetoric, but the policies will have devastating effect on the retirees and on the families of the victims of September 11. The Congressional Budget Office says 90 percent of the programs of the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure's mandatory accounts include the September 11 Victims' Compensation Fund, Coast Guard retirement pay, railroad retirement pensions, and unemployment compensation for railroad workers. Is that where we are supposed to find waste, fraud, and abuse?
The Victims' Compensation Fund makes payments to the victims who were injured and the families of those who were killed in the September 11 attacks. Mr. Chairman, no one in this Chamber can possibly ever forget the tragedy of September 11, and I hope the families are beginning to put their lives back together again. How in good conscience can we retreat from the solemn commitment made on this floor to help them rebuild their lives?
I commit to them that I will oppose this Republican budget plan that will cut their funding. Similarly, the 36,000 Coast Guard officers and their enlisted personnel and the 34,000 Coast Guard retirees, we pledge to them on our side that we will oppose this budget resolution and its cuts in Coast Guard retirement pay.
Coast Guard cutters, as we debate this budget resolution, are on combat patrol with the U.S. Navy, securing the shipping lanes and the safe passage of Navy ships in the Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean. At home the Coast Guard continues to protect our shores and our ports. Just this week the Secretary of Homeland Security initiated Operation Liberty Shield, increased security at our ports, protect infrastructure, key assets. The Coast Guard under Operation Liberty Shield is increasing its patrols of waterways, escorts of ferries and cruise ships, sea marshals on board vessels of high interest. We get more out of our investment in the Coast Guard than virtually any other agency of the Federal Government. Why should we make them worry about this Republican effort to cut retirement pay?
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposition to H. Con. Res. 95, the FY2004 Budget Resolution. Regrettably, this Republican Budget is likely to force the Transportation Committee to slash the pensions of 34,000 Coast Guard retirees and 645,000 railroad retirees and their dependents, and cut the relief provided to families of the victims of September 11th. Who in this House believes that we should cut the September 11th Victims' Compensation Fund to finance more tax cuts for the rich? With the Nation now at war, who in this House believes that the men and women of the Coast Guard, who are protecting our shores and ensuring the safe passage of U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf, should be worrying that this Congress may cut their retirement? This Budget displays a callous disregard for the families of the victims of September 11th, the men and women of the Coast Guard, railroad retirees, as well as the infrastructure needs of this country.
Section 201 of the Republican Budget Resolution directs the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure to cut $3.7 billion from its mandatory programs over the next 10 years. We are told to find these savings from ``waste, fraud, and abuse'' and to produce greater efficiency in our programs. While these platitudes of ``waste, fraud, and abuse'' make for good rhetoric, these policies will have a devastating effect on these retirees and the families of the victims of the September 11th attack.
The Congressional Budget Office says that 90 percent of the Transportation Committee's funding of mandatory programs includes these three:
The September 11th Victims' Compensation Fund,
Coast Guard retirement pay; and
Railroad retirement pensions and unemployment compensation for railroad workers.
And this is where we're expected to find ``waste, fraud, and abuse''?
The September 11th Victims' Compensation Fund makes payments to the victims who
were injured and the families of those who were killed in the September 11th terrorist attacks. Mr. Chairman, no one in this chamber will forget the tragedy of September 11th. I can only hope that families of the victims of September 11th have begun to put their lives back together. How can we, in good conscience, retreat from our solemn commitment to help them rebuild their lives? I commit to them now that I will oppose this Republican plan that could cut funding from the families of the victims of September 11th.
Similarly, I commit to the men and women of the Coast Guard, both the 36,000 Coast Guard officers and enlisted personnel and the 34,000 Coast Guard retirees, that I will strongly oppose this Republican Budget Resolution and its likely cuts in Coast Guard retired pay.
As we debate this Budget Resolution, Coast Guard cutters are on combat patrol with the U.S. Navy to help secure shipping lands and the safe passage of Navy ships in the Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean. At home the Coast Guard continues to protect our shores and ports. On Monday, March 17, the Secretary of Homeland Security initiated Operation LIBERTY SHIELD to increase security at our Nation's borders and protect our critical infrastructure and key assets. Under Operation LIBERTY SHIELD, the Coast Guard is increasing patrols of major U.S. ports and waterways, increasing its escorts of ferries and cruise ships, providing armed Sea Marshals onboard every high interest vessel arriving at or departing from U.S. ports, and enforcing security zones in and around critical infrastructure sites in key ports and petroleum facilities close to large coastal communities. In addition to its military and homeland security missions, the Coast Guard continues its search-and-rescue mission--responding to nearly 37,000 calls and saving 3,654 lives in 2002--and many other missions. The Coast Guard has long been stretched thin, but has always been ready--``Semper Paratus''--to answer the call. I have always maintained that the public gets more out of its investment in the Coast Guard than virtually any other government service. The enlisted men and women and officers of the Coast Guard should not have to worry about this Republican effort to cut their retirement pay.
The Republican Budget Resolution also is likely to result in significant cuts to railroad workers' retirement and unemployment compensation programs. Railroad workers, unlike other workers, are not covered by the Social Security system. They have their own retirement program. Last Congress, the bipartisan leadership of the Transportation Committee, with the strong support of rail unions, railroads, and rail retirees and their dependents, introduced H.R. 1140, a bill to revise the railroad retirement program to restore rail worker benefits and decrease railroad payroll taxes. The House overwhelmingly passed this legislation, by a vote of 383-33, and it became law. Today, the Republican Budget Resolution forces the Transportation Committee to consider changing this Act to cut railroad worker retirement benefits and unemployment compensation. I commit to the 248,000 rail workers and the 645,000 rail retirees and their dependents that I will fight any attempt to roll back the benefits so recently restored to you.
Beyond these devastating cuts required by the reconciliation instructions, this Budget Resolution does little to meet our infrastructure investment needs. For the reauthorization of the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century (TEA 21), the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee urged the Budget Committee to provide $50 billion in budget authority for highway, highway safety, and transit programs. In its letter to the Budget Committee, 74 of the 75 Members of the Transportation Committee stated that we must provide this level of funding in FY2004 to maintain our surface transportation systems and have any hope of improving the overall condition of the Nation's highway and transit systems.
Regrettably, this Budget Resolution provides $39 billion for these programs--little more than the status quo for TEA 21 reauthorization. Through the vigorous efforts of the bipartisan leadership of this Committee, the Resolution also provides a reserve fund that would allow for additional allocations if this or other legislation includes increases in Highway Trust Fund receipts. Although this does provide the Transportation Committee with the opportunity to address this issue at a later date, this Resolution does nothing to address our enormous highway and transit infrastructure needs in the fiscal year ahead.
Moreover, the Republican Resolution cuts the amount of highway and transit funding that actually may be obligated in FY2004 below the CBO baseline. Specifically, the Republican Budget Resolution assumes a cut in the transit program of $98 million in FY2004 and $2.5 billion over the next six years. This cut is directly contrary to TEA 21's goal of modal balance. Under TEA 21 we significantly increased transit funding by guaranteeing $36 billion for transit. As a result of this increased investment, transit ridership has added 1.6 billion riders--more than 900,000 new riders each day--over the last five years. This transit renaissance could be threatened by these cuts in transit funding.
At a time when our Nation's infrastructure faces huge unmet safety and security needs, congestion is crippling our cities, and our economy has lost 2.5 million jobs in the past two years, the Republican Budget Resolution cuts these vital programs that could address infrastructure security needs and congestion problems and create family-wage jobs to grow our economy. Instead, it provides more than $1 trillion of new tax cuts.
This Budget Resolution reflects more than misplaced priorities. It is an assault on working men and women from the Coast Guard to the Maintenance of Way railroad employees.
Mr. Chairman, I strongly oppose the Republican Budget Resolution and urge my colleagues to vote ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, there is something in politics called having a tin ear. That means being totally oblivious to everything around you. Right now we…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, there is something in politics called having a tin ear. That means being totally oblivious to everything around you.
Right now we have troops in the field, a war has begun, and we should be doing everything we can to speak with one voice and achieve national unity. Yet the Republican leadership insists at this moment in bringing to the floor one of the most partisan, divisive issues of the entire year. I question their judgment and their timing. I would hope that we would move fairly quickly today to a resolution supporting our troops in the field. Unfortunately, our Republican friends prefer to have on the floor a matter of high partisanship which will divide this Congress.
Like all of my colleagues, Republicans as well as Democrats, and like the American people themselves, I fully support our troops. I hope and pray that they will accomplish their mission as quickly and safely as possible.
For that reason, Mr. Speaker, I have argued that we should not be considering this bill today. Republicans have offered a budget that is as partisan as it is divisive, as dishonest as it is dangerous to the country, and, at a time like this, when the United States Congress should be demonstrating its unity to the world, I fear that bringing it to the floor guarantees a divisive debate.
But that is what Republican leaders have done today. And unfortunately, there is no minimizing the differences between the Democratic and Republican budgets. The Democratic budget alternatives offered by the Committee on the Budget ranking member, the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt), is a responsible plan to strengthen national security and restore economic growth and fiscal responsibility. It tightens Federal spending and balances the budget using honest accounting, but it still meets priorities like defense, education, and health care, and it does more for homeland security than the Republican budget does.
There are two other budget alternatives offered by groups of Democrats: the Blue Dogs on one hand, and the Congressional Black Caucus and Progressive Caucus on the other. They are worthwhile, and I am glad that they are in order under this rule.
The Republican budget stands in stark contrast, Mr. Speaker. The Republican budget is intellectually dishonest, morally indefensible, and just plain bad for our economy and our Nation. It explodes the deficit and raises the death tax on all Americans. It shortchanges homeland security to pay for tax breaks for millionaires, and it proves once again just how out of touch House Republicans truly are.
At a time which this Nation must come together, Republicans offer a budget that will pull us apart. Simply put, the Republican budget separates Americans into two categories: winners and losers. The winners are the wealthiest few who get hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks; the losers are everyone else, the people who have to sacrifice to pay for those tax breaks for the wealthiest few.
To paraphrase Winston Churchill, never have so many been asked to sacrifice for so few.
Mr. Speaker, the Republican budget skimps on homeland security. It slashes priorities like education and health care. It shortchanges veterans and farmers, and it still explodes the deficits. That is because the Republican budget is a shameless work of fiction. It calls for draconian cuts, cuts in priorities like veterans' benefits, student loans, and law enforcement, and still gives massive tax breaks to the wealthiest. But it requires the tax breaks to be enacted by April 11 and gives Republicans until July 11 to make the spending cuts.
Mr. Speaker, when you get your dessert before you eat your spinach, you never eat your spinach. Any American parent can tell us that, and so can anyone else who has watched the Republican budget charade drive up the deficit over the past few years. As the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm), the foremost proponent of fiscal responsibility in this House, told us yesterday in the Committee on Rules, the tax cuts will be enacted, and the spending cuts will be abandoned, and the deficit will continue to explode.
Why are Republicans foisting this dangerous budget on America and on our economy? Mr. Speaker, for one simple reason: because they stubbornly insist on giving massive tax breaks to the wealthiest few.
They say that to govern is to choose. Well, take a look at the consequences of the choices Republicans have made in this budget. American troops are at war, but Republicans chose to shortchange the veterans who defended this Nation in past years and to give tax breaks to millionaires. That is why the Veterans of Foreign Wars opposes the Republican budget. Republicans chose to slash education, and to give tax breaks to millionaires. They chose to cut health care for children and seniors on Medicaid, and to give tax breaks to millionaires.
They chose to cut assistance to farmers and to give tax breaks to millionaires. That is why the conservative Farm Bureau opposes the Republican budget. Republicans are even shortchanging homeland security; and once again, they are making sure millionaires get all the tax breaks they want.
Mr. Speaker, despite all these cruel cuts, cuts that touch almost all Americans and their families, this Republican budget still explodes the deficit. All the budget gimmicks and phony accounting in the world, what President Bush once called fuzzy math, cannot hide that truth.
All in all, the Republicans are proposing an economic horror show at a time when Americans are still suffering from the latest Republican recession. Since President Bush took office, 2.5 million Americans have lost their jobs in the private sector, the surplus has gone, and last year's deficit was $317 billion.
But Republicans refuse to face that fact, so they propose a budget that would actually harm the economy by driving the Nation deeper into debt, raising the debt tax on all Americans and their children, and increasing families' mortgage payments and credit card bills.
Moreover, this Republican budget does not account for how we are going to pay for a war with Iraq that has begun. So yesterday in the Committee on Rules the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton), the top Democrat on the Committee on Armed Services, offered an amendment to set aside $20 billion in a contingency fund to begin paying for the war. But Republican leaders refused to allow the House to vote on it.
Mr. Speaker, from veterans and farmers to students and seniors, this budget asks almost everyone in America to sacrifice. Everyone, that is, but the millionaires who get the big tax breaks. That is not just wrong; it is fiscally irresponsible. It is bad for the economy, and it is bad for America.
Mr. Speaker, as I said at the beginning, we are one country and we are one Congress, especially when our troops are risking their lives abroad to protect us here at home. I am very disappointed that the Republican budget fails to demonstrate that.
I urge my colleagues to reject the Republican budget and vote for the Democratic alternative offered by the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt), and join Democrats in restoring fiscal responsibility and protecting the economy against more of the same failed Republican economic policies.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Oregon (Ms. Hooley).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds.
Mr. Speaker, the preceding speaker asked what were the differences between the surpluses piled up during the second half of the Clinton Presidency and the deficits piled up during the first 2 years of the Bush Presidency.
True, there was a terrible attack on our country, and we have had to pay quite a bit because of the consequences of that. But I would suggest that the $1 trillion tax cut forced through by the new administration is the main reason why we face the deficits we have today. The $1 trillion, which primarily benefited the wealthy, forced through by the new administration, is the primary reason why we have the large deficits we have today, rather than the surpluses enjoyed during the Clinton Presidency.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt), the ranking Democrat on the Committee on the Budget.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Israel).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pallone).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Wynn).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Sherman).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Honda).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, we are ready to proceed to consideration of this rule. The rule lays out three different Democratic alternatives. Unfortunately, the Committee on Rules chose not to make in order some very important amendments, specifically the amendment offered by the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton). We all support the troops. It is time for us to put our money where our mouth is. Unfortunately, this budget resolution does not provide any money for the ongoing war in Iraq. The Skelton amendment should have been made in order. It is regrettable the other side of the aisle did not give the House the opportunity to do what we all should be doing today.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of this rule and of the budget which will come forward from the Committee on the Budget. This is a wartime budget. Our Nation has been at war since September 11…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of this rule and of the budget which will come forward from the Committee on the Budget. This is a wartime budget. Our Nation has been at war since September 11 of 2001. President Bush has made that very clear. And then, of course, last night that war expanded to our challenge of taking on Saddam Hussein.
This rule is a very fair and balanced rule. I see having just walked into the Chamber my good friend the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm). His substitute will be made in order. We will have a substitute for the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Toomey) and the Republican Study Committee. We will have the Progressive Caucus substitute that will be made in order. We will, of course, have the gentleman from South Carolina's (Mr. Spratt) substitute.
I will say to my friends that not since 1987, that is 16 years ago, have we seen the Committee on Rules under either Republicans or Democrats make in order a provision which allowed for anything other than a complete substitute. And so the rule that we are going to be voting on in just a few minutes follows that 16-year tradition again under both Democrats and Republicans.
Mr. Speaker, I totally agree with the concept of the Skelton amendment. The gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton), the ranking minority member of the Committee on Armed Services, is one of the most respected Members of this House, and I believe very strongly in what it is that he wants to do here.
We know that once we get this budget behind us, we are going to be dealing with a supplemental appropriations bill. It is no secret at all. It has been talked about as a measure which will range somewhere between 80- and $100 billion. We know that it will take a great deal of resources to win this war and obviously to rebuild Iraq. It is our hope that we will be able to see a lot of help in that effort, not just from the U.S. taxpayer.
We know that there are tremendous oil resources in Iraq. We also know that the multinational coalition that is now supportive of the President is even larger than the 28-nation coalition that existed under President Bush No. 41 to liberate the people of Kuwait 12 years ago. And so as we see this coalition build to 35, 40 more nations, it is our hope that those nations will join in the rebuilding effort of Iraq.
That is why I believe that the message behind the gentleman from Missouri's very thoughtful amendment, while not made in order under this measure because we make substitute budgets in order, is a message which is important, it has resonated, and I strongly support the idea behind it. I can assure him that we will address this issue.
As we look, Mr. Speaker, at the budget itself, there are so many things that have been said, I do not have any charts showing credit cards or anything like that, but I will say that this is a budget that is focused on the situation that really created the economic challenge that we face over and above the war on terrorism and now our going to war with Saddam Hussein, and that happens to be the issue of economic growth.
The economic downturn began in the last two quarters of the year 2000. I will say that again, Mr. Speaker. The economic downturn began in the last two quarters of the year 2000, before the last Presidential election. Since that time we have been able to put into place President Bush's tax bill. That reduction in the tax burden dealing with issues like encouraging investment, the marriage tax penalty, those sorts of issues, based on the assessment of virtually every economist, mitigated the downturn that we have seen in the economy, meaning that without President Bush's tax plan, the tax reduction measure, the economic downturn would have been much worse than what we have gone through.
We went through two quarters of negative economic growth, meaning an economic recession last year, in 2001, and since that time we have seen growth that is not nearly what it should be. We enjoyed tremendous economic growth following the implementation of our tax measures in the mid to late 1990s, and I am happy to say that we have an opportunity to lay the groundwork for that to happen again. That is why the provision that is provided for in this budget for $724 billion of tax reductions is a provision which will encourage economic growth.
Why is it that we are going into deficit spending? Well, yes, we have had to increase the spending on the war. Since September 11 we have had to expend over $100 billion in the war on terrorism alone. But the fact of the matter is, Mr. Speaker, we have this challenge because of economic growth which is not strong enough. Anyone who looks at what it will take to get us growing the economy again realizes that you do not increase taxes at a time of an economic slowdown; what you do is you cut taxes.
I hope very much that we will be able to maintain and have intact the President's economic growth package, but I have a proposal which I hope we can include with that, and this budget makes provisions for that, which will make the President's package even better. It is a provision which would cut the top rate on capital gains from 20 percent down to 10 percent prospectively, meaning for new investment. It would say, Mr. Speaker, to people who are considering investing today, who may be waiting on the sidelines, that they would have an opportunity when the new investment that they would embark upon appreciates of having a rate that is cut from 20 percent down to 10 percent, from 35 percent to 20 percent for corporations. That kind of incentive for new investment is just what we need. That is the kind of tax reduction which will provide an important stimulant to the economy.
As we look at the overall quest to ensure that we have funding for a wide range of priorities, including education, including veterans, I have heard people talk about so many of these cuts that we are facing that are going to hurt working Americans and those who are at the lower end of the economic spectrum, and it is just not true.
We are focusing with a provision that we have in this rule on the issue of Medicare. I feel very strongly about the need to address a concern that I have in my State for the reimbursement to hospitals for the disproportionate share on Medicaid funding for the tremendous burden that they have carried. It is my hope that within the guidelines of this budget that we will be able to address those very important priorities that are out there.
Mr. Speaker, this is a very fair rule. I want to praise my colleague from Washington State (Mr. Hastings). He has worked day and night on the Committee on Rules. We worked until late last night fashioning this rule, and just the other night he was not able to be in the Committee on Rules because he was working until 1:30 in the morning on this budget in the Committee on the Budget. He is our representative from the Committee on Rules to the Committee on the Budget. He has done a great job in working on the budget, establishing our priorities, recognizing that this is a wartime budget, and at the same time moving us on the road towards economic growth and fiscal responsibility. He has also done a good job in fashioning, putting together and supporting and managing this rule.
Mr. Speaker, it is a rule which allows, as the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Frost) correctly said, for three options from Democrats to be considered, the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt), the Black Caucus/Progressive Caucus substitute, and the so-called Blue Dog package that the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm) has brought forward. I think it is the right thing for us to do, to have a full airing. We are going to do that.
This is one of the most solemn days in our Nation's history as we have begun this war, but at the same time no better signal could be sent to the rest of the world that the United States of America stands strong and ready and determined to continue with
the greatest experiment in individual liberty known to man, that being the United States of America.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment in the nature of a substitute. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5\1/2\ minutes to myself. Mr. Chairman, I would like to begin by commending the gentleman from Iowa (Chairman…
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment in the nature of a substitute.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5\1/2\ minutes to myself.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to begin by commending the gentleman from Iowa (Chairman Nussle) for the outstanding work the gentleman has done. The gentleman has worked very hard. Our committee has worked very hard, and the budget is a good budget. But I believe the alternative budget that I am going to describe right now and that the Republican Study Committee is putting forward is a better budget. I want to go over the highlights of the differences and engage in this discussion about the alternatives.
Let us look at the major differences. The big difference between the Republican Study Committee budget and the committee budget are three.
First, we provide more tax relief. We provide more tax relief than the committee budget does, we provide more tax relief than any of the alternative budgets do.
Number two, we actually cut some spending. Now the committee's budget cuts the rate of growth of spending. Our budget actually cuts nondefense, not homeland security discretionary spending.
The third thing is we run smaller deficits and we get back to a balanced budget faster than any other budget, including faster than the Blue Dog budget that we just heard a lot of discussion about. We do it in 4 years, faster than any other, and that is not accounting for the faster economic growth that would result from our budget package. Let me run through these three areas.
First on the tax front, we recognize in this budget that we are still overtaxed. The fact is that Federal taxes consume about 21 percent of national income, and total taxes from all government in our country is over a third of national income. This is well above the post-war average high. The fact is we are not undertaxed; we are still overtaxed. Many of our constituents are facing tax increases at the State and local levels. They need to have that off-set, and we can do that in our budget.
Our budget accommodates the President's entire growth package; and that is critical because we need to get this economy growing again, so we accommodate the elimination of the double taxation of dividends. This would end a great inequity in our tax system, a bias in our current code, a bias that, frankly, falls disproportionately on older Americans; and it would also stimulate economic growth.
If we follow the wisdom of the President's proposal and eliminate the double taxation on dividends, it has a number of positive effects for our economy. It would immediately result in higher equity prices, which is a good start. The current tax also increases the cost of capital. By lowering the cost of capital, we encourage capital formation. It also would reduce the current distortion of the allocation of capital. Abolishing the double taxation will over time release billions of dollars for more productive investment.
The bottom line is the President's proposal encourages saving and investment and capital formation, and that helps sustain economic growth. That is why we need to do it.
We also need to accelerate the phase-in of marginal tax rate reductions. When you lower marginal income tax rates, you increase the incentive to save and work and invest, and when you increase the incentives, you get more savings and work and investment. If we delay this any further, we just postpone the beneficial effects.
In our budget, we accommodate the President's entire tax relief package. Then we do something more. We do not specify exactly what that would have to be, but, Mr. Chairman, it would be large enough to accommodate a 50 percent reduction in capital gains rates, and that would also significantly encourage economic growth. That kind of capital formation is a precondition for strong economic growth.
On the spending side, as I said earlier, ours is the only budget that makes some real cuts in spending. On the discretionary side, we do not cut defense spending. We use the same number that the President has proposed and the same number that the committee has proposed. We recognize this obligation. We recognize that we are at war. We do not cut homeland security funding. On the mandatory spending side, we do not touch Social Security at all, we make no changes, and we do not actually cut anything in mandatory spending, although we do restrain the rate of growth. What we actually do cut is in nondefense, nonhomeland security discretionary spending.
Why is it important to get this spending under control? Because, Mr. Chairman, total government spending is the real measure of the burden that the government imposes on our economy. More than deficits, more than the debt, it is the total amount of money that the government sucks out of the private sector, whether it does it by borrowing or whether it does it by confiscating people's money, that is the measure of the misallocation of capital. We all know there are a lot of vital programs that have to be funded, but on the margin we know that this spending occurs through a political process where Members are spending money to try to get reelected. It is not the allocation of capital that individual consumers and businesses would allocate for stronger economic growth.
The other problem with too much spending is the enormous waste. We have heard a discussion about that earlier, but the government cannot even account for over $17 billion in spending in 2001. The Federal Government acknowledges $20 billion in overpayments. The list of ridiculous misspent money, missing money, overpayments is a very long and a very embarrassing list, frankly. We are never going to wring that waste out of government until we impose some spending discipline.
The fact is government Federal spending, discretionary spending, total spending has been growing at several times the rate of inflation, and now is the time to rein that in. If we cannot rein that in now, Mr. Chairman, when can we rein that in?
The net budgetary effects of our budget is greater tax relief, modest spending discipline, and as a result we run smaller deficits for shorter periods of time, and we get back to a balance faster than any other budget proposal.
I heard the Blue Dogs come down on this floor and talk about how much they want to balance this budget, how quickly they want to do that, why they want to do that. I am glad to hear that. I look forward to their voting for our budget because it gets to a balance faster than any others.
The other point I would make is that there can be no doubt that our combination of lower taxes and less spending would lead to stronger economic growth.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from North Carolina (Mrs. Myrick).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 30 seconds to respond and correct what I think was a misstatement.
The fact is the cuts in spending in our Republican Study Committee budget did not result in larger deficits. They result in smaller deficits because we have got less spending, and that means less debt, and that means we get back into balance faster than any other budget that will be considered today; and I am looking forward to the enthusiastic support of the Blue Dogs, who feel very strongly about getting back into balance.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of this budget. The Committee on the Budget has passed a resolution that strikes the balance between the needs and the desires of this House and of the people of this…
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of this budget. The Committee on the Budget has passed a resolution that strikes the balance between the needs and the desires of this House and of the people of this country to provide for a better quality of life for all of us.
Since September 11, we have realized the threat of terrorism, a threat that is so great and so different than any before us. It knows no boundaries with regard to where it will strike and what time, and it certainly places no value on human life, and today, for that reason, we must step forward and address that threat.
After the vicious attack of September 11, we realized that we had to take immediate action to close the gaps in our homeland defense. We had to unify our efforts from the national to the State, county and local efforts, and this budget resolution takes a long step in getting that job done.
What this resolution does do is fully funds the President's request to defend our Nation against further terrorist attack. What this resolution does do is provide $41 billion in total homeland security funding.
As part of that effort, what the resolution does is provide in the budget $3.5 billion in funding. That is a $3 billion increase to ensure that every first responder is trained and has the equipment necessary to get the job done. More specifically, in the resolution it provides $500 million in grants to first responders so that they will have the equipment necessary should they have to respond to a terroristic threat, and the bill would also provide $500 million for State and local law enforcement with regard to terrorism prevention initiatives as well.
Moving closer to home, in New Jersey, we have just 10 miles from Bergen County a nuclear power plant. This resolution provides us with $619 million in an effort to protect our nuclear power plants across the Nation because we know there are nuclear power plants, if they were ever struck, would have a devastating impact on all citizens.
Mr. Chairman, I would just in closing say that we must move ahead on this resolution. Support this resolution. Protect the quality of life and homeland security for all Americans.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the House budget resolution for fiscal year 2004. Last week, in the early morning hours, I along with my fellow colleagues on the House Budget Committee passed a resolution that strikes a balance among America's competing demands, weigh desires against needs and sets a plan to fund programs that improve the quality of life for all Americans.
Since September 11, our country has realized the threat of a new wave of terrorism. A threat so great that it knows no boundary to whom or where it strikes and places no value on human life. And today, we are still at risk to this new and changing threat. This is a war, the likes of which no nation has ever faced before.
To protect our communities and neighborhoods, we must continue to take the necessary steps to develop a national, State, and local strategy for homeland security. Mr. Chairman, the fiscal year 2004 budget that is before us is committed to making our homeland safe.
Homeland security is an important priority and our budget fully funds President Bush's request to defend our Nation against further terrorist attacks. By providing $41 billion in
total homeland security spending, this budget provides the newly created Department of Homeland Security and related agencies with all the resources necessary to protect our homeland from terrorist attacks.
As part of our continued commitment to America's First Responders, our budget proposes $3.5 billion--a $3 billion increase over fiscal year 2003, to ensure every first responder is properly trained and equipped. Mr. Chairman, this budget provides a significant increase for the nearly 3 million State and local First Responders who regularly put their lives on the line day after day to protect the lives of others and make our country safer.
More specifically, we have provided $500 million in grants to firefighters for health and safety equipment and vehicles as they prepare to respond to possible future terrorist incidents. And we have also included an additional $500 million for State and local law enforcement terrorism prevention initiatives. Finally, there is $181 million for the Citizen Corps initiative to engage individuals in helping communities prevent, prepare for and respond to disasters of all kinds, including terrorist attacks.
Our nuclear power plants if struck would also prove devastating to all citizens. This budget provides $619 million in an effort to protect our nuclear power plants across the country, including Indian Point Nuclear Plant less than 10 miles from Bergen County, NJ.
Mr. Chairman, our budget also provides the Coast Guard with $5.7 billion--an increase of $503 million to ensure that they have the adequate resources necessary to better protect our ports, cargo, and coastal areas. Mr. Chairman, when it comes to securing our homeland, the Coast Guard serves a vital and significant mission. In this post- September 11 world, where only 2 percent of the cargo that enters our ports is actually screened, we have created a budget that fully supports our Coast Guard as a component of the National Strategy for Homeland Security.
Specifically, this budget provides $65 million to deploy six new Maritime Safety and Security Teams to respond to terrorist threats or incidents in domestic ports and waterways and $20 million to hire additional personnel for search and rescue and shore based command centers.
Mr. Chairman, for all of the cargo that enters the Ports of Newark and Elizabeth, in New Jersey, the third largest in the United States and the premier port on the eastern seaboard, I strongly urge my fellow colleagues in the House to support this budget.
As we continue to be engaged in the newest and most difficult war of the 21st century, it has become a day to day responsibility that we are ready on a permanent basis to protect our country. And we owe it to every national, State, and local homeland security employee, as well as ourselves and our families that we give them the support they need to protect America.
After the vicious attacks of September 11, 2001, we realize we had to take immediate action to close the gaps in our defenses on land, sea and in the air. We had to unify our homeland security efforts under one roof and under one chain of command. To meet the ever changing threat, we had to be able to immediately deploy the men and women of the homeland security department wherever and whenever they were needed.
Mr. Chairman, this budget does just that. There is no doubt in my mind that by working together, demonstrating courage and a strong moral character we will prevail in this war against terror.
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 151 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 151 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Frost), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 151 is a structured rule providing 3 hours of general debate with 2 hours equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking member of the Committee on the Budget, and 1 hour on economic goals and policies equally divided and controlled by the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Saxton) and the gentleman from California (Mr. Stark).
The rule waives all points of order against consideration of the concurrent resolution. It further provides that the amendment in the nature of a substitute specified in Part A of the Committee on Rules report accompanying the resolution shall be considered as adopted in the House and in the Committee of the Whole.
The rule makes in order only those amendments printed in Part B of the Committee on Rules report which may be offered only in the order printed in the report. Said amendments may be offered only by a Member designated in the report, shall be considered read, shall be debatable for 1 hour equally divided and controlled by an opponent and a proponent, and shall not be subject to amendment.
The rule waives all points of order against the amendments printed in the report, except that the adoption of a further amendment in the nature of a substitute shall constitute the conclusion of consideration of the concurrent resolution for amendment.
Resolution 151 also provides, upon the conclusion of consideration of the concurrent resolution for amendment, for a final period of general debate not to exceed 20 minutes equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on the Budget.
Finally, the rule permits the chairman of the Committee on the Budget to offer amendments in the House to achieve mathematical consistency and provides that the concurrent resolution shall not be subject to a demand for a division of the question of its adoption.
Mr. Speaker, as the House takes up the proposed Federal budget for fiscal year 2004, it does so with two overriding objectives in mind: to successfully complete the war we have just begun in Iraq, and to revitalize our Nation's economy today while building a firm foundation for long-term economic growth.
The budget resolution passed by the Committee on the Budget reflects these realities and does so in a time of extraordinary fiscal strain. The members of the Committee on the Budget are to be commended for completing their work in a timely manner.
This budget resolution, of course, is only the first step in the long process by which Congress sets the Nation's spending and revenue policies. Much hard work remains to be done by the various committees of jurisdiction, and the Committee on the Budget has, in large measure, left those committees the flexibility to make decisions on specific programs and priorities.
Mr. Speaker, make no mistake about it, the challenges before us in this area are great, and we are not alone. State and local governments all across the country are struggling to tighten their belts, and we must do the same thing here in Washington, D.C. Hard choices are inevitable, and no Member is likely to get everything he or she would like to see in this budget resolution, but we must act, and we must act now. All of us learned a painful lesson this last year about the consequences of allowing the budget process to break down.
Mr. Speaker, House Concurrent Resolution 95 provides for a Federal budget of $2.22 trillion, an increase of 2.9 percent or $62 billion over the current fiscal year. It puts the Nation back on a path to a balanced budget, which would be achieved by the year 2012, 9 years from now, with the projected budget surplus of $21 billion that year.
Although there will be ample time during general debate to highlight key provisions of the resolution, I am particularly pleased to advise my colleagues that the proposed manager's amendment to the resolution reinstates the reserve fund for Medicare, which puts, in essence, a fence around the $400 billion to fund Medicare modernization and prescription drug coverage for older Americans.
In closing, Mr. Speaker, let me remind Members that the budget resolution is only a blueprint in the broadest sense. The details will take shape in coming months, but the sooner we can complete this blueprint and move on to the hard work of enacting its various components, the better off we will be. Neither the war in Iraq nor the urgent work of economic recovery can afford to be hindered simply because the
budget resolution is not perfect in the eyes of every Member of Congress.
Accordingly, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support both the rule and the underlying concurrent resolution on the budget.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Linder), a member of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. Speaker, I am happy to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. Wicker), a member of the Committee on the Budget.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds to just briefly respond to the gentleman that just spoke.
In the manager's amendment that we will adopt, when we adopt the rule in discretionary spending for veterans, we provide a 6.1 percent increase, which has doubled, as my friend from Mississippi said, the overall budget. The mandatory spending in the manager's amendment that we will adopt, that calls for a spending increase of 7.5 percent for our veterans. So we respond to the needs of those that have made our country as free as it is.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Smith).
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Lincoln Diaz-Balart), a member of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. Speaker, how much time is remaining on both sides?
Mr. Speaker, I would observe it looks like my friend from Texas has more requests for time than I have. So I will reserve my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), the chairman of the Committee on Rules.
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for the kind words that he gave me.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the previous question on the resolution.
The previous question was ordered.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gentleman's yielding, but I want to use a portion of my time commending him, but I wanted to ask the gentleman a question. I…
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gentleman's yielding, but I want to use a portion of my time commending him, but I wanted to ask the gentleman a question.
I will when it comes my time, but I will do it on my own time, but I am curious because it seems to me over the last 8 years you talk about your party has been in control. So all of the points that you make with the blue books, why have we not done it?
Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman would yield further, I do not want to leave the impression that the Blue Dog budget is doing anything more than spending what President Bush has asked the Congress to spend, not 1 penny more.
We sometimes get the rhetoric around here, you would think we are big spenders in our budget. We are spending what the President has asked us to spend, and no more.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Mr. Chairman, I have waited 24 years for this day to shuck the tax-and-spend Democratic label and transfer it to the Republican borrow-and-spend label. I say this with a smile on my face, and I am one of those that believe when I am pointing the finger of partisanship, there are always three pointing back at me. I will take the three best shots of the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle), but I insist the gentleman takes my one at this time.
The gentleman said we have a difference between our two philosophies today. This chart shows it. Our budget is the green budget. The yellow budget I ran against in 1978 because I thought deficit spending was bad. I voted for the Reagan tax cuts; and this is what we got, following the same economic theory that we once again are being asked to support today.
I am for the green. The Blue Dog budget will accomplish that based on the estimates. The gentleman's budget today will keep us in Social Security for the remainder of the 10 years the gentleman is talking about.
I commend the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle), as the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Hill) did. The budget he brought out of committee was an honest budget. It told this conference and this Congress and the American people that if they want tax cuts, they have to pay for them. They have got to do the spending cuts that they suggested.
However, the gentleman's own conference said, no. As I told the gentleman privately, and I will say publicly, if the gentleman would reconcile the cuts in a public manner on this floor first and then go to the tax cuts, he would have some support on this side. But I am skeptical, when they bring a budget that even their own conference will not support to the floor on the spending cuts, but yet we are going to have a tax cut on the floor in a very short period of time, that this is what we are going to get.
Our budget balances without using Social Security by 2013. As the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Tanner) said a moment ago, it is immoral what this Congress, these last few Congresses, are doing to our children and grandchildren.
When we talk about spending cuts, I have heard it explained that in the agricultural function it is just 1 percent. But let me remind all of us, we took 2 years writing the farm bill that passed with two- thirds support, equally divided Democrats and Republicans, and the President signed it. We stayed within the budget that they asked us to last year.
Anyone that suggests we can make the cuts that the gentleman is suggesting, assuming that it passes, without reopening the farm bill and rewriting it, is totally misinformed as to what the facts are regarding the authorizing of various programs.
I find it very interesting that today in the Committee on the Judiciary we were supposed to have passing out a constitutional amendment to balance the budget. As many know, I am for it. I am a cosponsor of it. One of the happiest days in my life was when we passed it on this floor; one of the saddest days was when it went down by one vote in the Senate.
Had that passed in the Senate, they could not bring their budget to the floor today. The only budget we will vote on today is this budget right here, the blue one, the Blue Dog line, that shows that we will balance without using Social Security in 2013. They
could not do it had we had a constitutional restraint. Yet some on the gentleman's side have the audacity to suggest that the budget is a good one; but yet we want to have a constitutional amendment to require us to do what we are not willing to do when we have a chance of doing it.
In 1999 the Republican leadership issued a statement pledging to protect the Social Security surplus: ``As leaders of the House of Representatives, we will not schedule any legislation that spends one penny of the Social Security trust fund. This leadership is committed to ending the 30-year raid on seniors and paying down the debt.''
We could not help 9-11-01, and we cannot help the fact that our economy has gone south, but we can stop digging the hole deeper as of today. That is what the Blue Dog budget does. It is the only budget that stops digging the hole deeper.
Now, one area we cut below the President, and our spending levels, I repeat, in this budget we do not spend one penny more than President Bush asked us to spend, one penny; but there is one area we want to cut below the President. We want to cut $420 billion out of the President's budget and somewhat less out of the chairman's budget for interest on the national debt. They can bring out all of the blue books, they have been there when the gentleman's party has been in charge, and some of us on this side would like to work with them. But they constantly and consistently deny us that opportunity, which, if they pass their budget today, once again, they deny us the opportunity.
We had a better budget 2 years ago. The economic situation of this country would not be as bad. I ask Members to support the Blue Dog budget.
Mr. Chairman, I would just say there are 35 Blue Dogs that stand ready to work with the gentleman's side on every one of the issues in the blue books that my colleague had up. If we would have the same spirit on those issues that we have had by allowing us to have this 1 hour this year, which we were not allowed to have last year, we would have made a lot of progress on this.
The fact that my colleagues were kind enough this year to allow the Blue Dogs to have 1 hour of debate so we can have this discussion, we do think it is a better plan, but it is up to the will of the majority of the House as to whether our plan is better than my colleagues. We will stand by the will of the majority.
Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Thornberry) and I have spoken about the fact that this budget protects our country, our national defense, and our homeland security. And nothing is more…
Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Thornberry) and I have spoken about the fact that this budget protects our country, our national defense, and our homeland security. And nothing is more important this afternoon, as this is a very critical time in the Persian Gulf. Our troops are committed, and we are committed to them.
However, this budget meets another challenge, and that is the challenge of strengthening the American economy and creating new jobs. Promoting growth in this economy and getting people back to work is a top priority of ours, and it is reflected in this budget. That is why it provides for policies that create an economic environment for boosting both long-term and short-term growth. In particular, the budget leaves room for President Bush's jobs and economic growth plan to strengthen the economy by providing an immediate stimulus to help struggling
American workers and by laying the groundwork to promote long-term, sustainable growth in our Nation's economy.
A Member on the other side of the aisle called this growth package irresponsible. We do not think it is irresponsible to bolster household finances or encourage consumer spending. We do not think it is irresponsible to promote investment because it leads to job creation, and we do not think it is irresponsible to help the unemployed get back to work. That is what this budget does.
Mr. Chairman, 2 years ago we passed tax relief that not only put money back in people's pockets, but it slowed an advancing recession that President Bush inherited. The 2001 tax relief plan made that recession the mildest in history, and it created 1.5 million new jobs. Without the leadership this Congress showed on a bipartisan basis and this President showed, the recession and the job loss would have been far worse when America came under attack on September 11, 2001.
Now in this budget we provide for the President's economic growth package which will create new jobs and sustain growth. The plan accelerates the reductions in personal income tax rates, the marriage penalty relief in the 2001 tax cuts. It accelerates the child tax credits from 2001. It increases small business expensing, and it eliminates the unfair double taxation of dividend income.
Experts generally agree that this proposal will boost stock prices dramatically. Some say 7 percent, some say 20 percent. The fact is, we are going to add significantly to the value of our stock market, which helps all of us as Americans, including half of all American families now invested in the market. It helps the economy in general.
Economists also say it is going to lower unemployment rates for the next several years. In fact, the average of private forecasters' estimates show the President's plan will result in more than 1 million new jobs by the end of next year. It goes without saying that America is still dealing with the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks and with the continued uncertainty on the international front, including in Iraq today. Our economy is not performing as it should, and too many Americans are out of work.
This budget resolution is responsive because it helps get the economy going again; and when that happens, revenues grow. It happened in the 1960s under the leadership of President John Kennedy, and it happened in the 1980s with President Reagan's tax relief plan because it was pro-growth.
Here is a chart which indicates the Reagan-era revenues. Look at this, from 1982 until 1989, the dramatic increase in revenues. Again 1960s, 1980s. That is what we are trying to replicate now.
Mr. Chairman, with the growth package, we are also going to be able to be sure we can afford these tax cuts. I have heard Members say we cannot afford them; it is good to have growth tax packages, but we cannot afford it. This is an interesting chart. This is a static analysis, meaning it shows absolutely no impact of the tax relief, which has countered everything we have seen in history.
When we provide that incentive for job creation, it increases revenue. It helps the budget, but this assumes none of that happens. Just to have the tax relief in place, this is the difference. The red on the chart shows what the budget would be like with the tax relief taken out altogether. No tax relief at all. The green shows the impact of all this pro-growth tax policy, again on a static analysis. As Members can see, it is a very small difference. The tax relief is not crowding out additional spending, it is growing the economy so we can get people back to work and grow our revenues.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to encourage Members on the other side of the aisle to listen to one of their former colleagues, currently a Governor in the State of New Mexico. Bill Richardson, who was also a member of the Clinton cabinet, has a plan for his State that restrains spending; and, yes, it reduces tax. Why? Because he knows it is going to help his State's economy and in the end help in terms of revenues. He has said and he offers this as free advice to his fellow Democrats. He said, ``We Democrats need to stop talking about class warfare and distribution of wealth. We need to start talking about economic growth, and reducing taxes puts us on the road to economic growth.'' I think he is right. I always liked Bill Richardson, and now I know why. Well put.
Mr. Chairman, this is a responsible budget because it protects our country and because it grows the economy, gets the economy back on track and creates jobs.
Mr. Chairman, I want to thank the gentleman from California (Mr. Stark) for giving me this opportunity to address the House in probably the saddest day that I have had in my career, to be a Member of…
Mr. Chairman, I want to thank the gentleman from California (Mr. Stark) for giving me this opportunity to address the House in probably the saddest day that I have had in my career, to be a Member of Congress and to not be able to respond to my constituents, and indeed, to so many people in our great Nation, as to how we find ourselves in the situation we do today.
What is even more remarkable is how we can debate putting together a budget and say that we have to wait until the war gets started good or the war is over, and then we will be able to come back and fit it into the budget. It is almost like saying that we would like to give prescription drugs and hospital assistance, but we do not know how many people are going to be sick. We would like to give prisons and cops and security, but we really do not know how many people are going to commit crimes, so wait until it is all over and then trust us, we will come back.
Another problem that I have today is that so many of my colleagues find it very, very difficult to understand that we come together in our hearts, and wanting to make certain that no young person that is in our military today will ever have any reason to challenge that this United States Congress appreciates them for their dedication, their loyalty, and that we are prepared to do anything and everything that we can for them to have the security in knowing that we are all Americans together and nothing, not Republicans and not Democrats, not liberals and not conservatives, is going to breach this bond that we have a constitutional and moral right to have.
I have been involved in a lot of debates as to when American troops should be introduced into harm's way. I was not here when they went into the Dominican Republic. God knows I was not here when they went into Korea. I was not even here when they had a vote on the Tonkin Gulf resolution.
I was here and I heard debate on Kosovo. I was here and heard debate on Haiti and the Persian Gulf. We had Democrat and Republican Presidents, and we had serious differences of opinion. Most of the time, at the conclusion of these debates, we praised each other and expressed support that it was intellectually and politically the right thing for the Republic and a great Nation like ours to do. Nobody accused someone of being unpatriotic because they differed with the President, whether he was Republican or Democrat.
Today I hope, Mr. Chairman, that we are not going to challenge each other as to who loves our country and who respects our flag the most; but we concentrate on the fact that those that are placed in harm's way, they do not have the opportunity to debate which war they support or which war they are against. They do not have the opportunity to make the decisions. When the decision is made, they have to go; and we have to be there for them.
I suspect if the gauge of patriotism was gauged not on how many flags we had stuck on your automobiles but, rather, how patriotic we were in wanting to help the troops, that we would be here and we would be coming here saying how many members of our family have we encouraged to join up and to volunteer and to get involved in this thing, not only to bring democracy to Iraq but to bring democracy to the region.
I would suspect that if we were all as patriotic as sometimes I hear the words said, that we would reflect this not only in the budget, but we would be talking about expanded services for our veterans, for our warriors, for those people who would want to expand and join the Reserves and join the National Guard.
I would suspect that if we did not have this attitude that ``we will hold your coat, you go ahead and fight,'' but we were really saying, we appreciate what you are doing, that we would say, ``and when you come home we are not going to treat you just as disabled veterans or sick veterans or veterans without homes, we are going to treat you as the heroes that you are for what you have done for us.''
I would find it awkward when my veterans come home from Iraq to tell them that what I was really debating on the floor was how much money could we really take out; that I would be saying what we were trying to do on your behalf would be to have a $1.5 trillion tax cut because we want to stimulate the economy; that what we were doing was trying to cut back a budget, to cut back health care, to cut back housing.
I would find it difficult to explain how the thought of terrorism would have this Congress so petrified that instead of doing the things that we have been sent down here to do, we are cutting back in spending, we are cutting back in taxes, and we are cutting back in being those things that we are asking people to fight for, that is, a country where everyone has an opportunity to decent health care, a decent education.
I am going to be just as critical of this President as I can; but more than that, I am going to be just as supportive as this Congress allows me to be supporting those programs that allow them to get back home healthy and safe and to be able to be discharged and knowing that we are going to protect those rights.
I hope when that flag goes up we recognize one thing, that no one has a right to say that someone is less patriotic because they did not support every intrusion that a Congress has made or a President has decided of our men and women into a foreign country.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 5 minutes. (Mr. STARK asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. Chairman, last night, President Bush started the war against Iraq, a war that…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 5 minutes.
(Mr. STARK asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, last night, President Bush started the war against Iraq, a war that offends the vast majority of moral and religious groups in the world. Most major religious organizations, the Vatican, Muslim, Buddhists, Jewish, Protestant religious groups, oppose his war on moral grounds. Over 80 percent of the nations in the world oppose the war on ethical and moral grounds.
But now that Bush has created this disaster to cover up his failed diplomatic, social, and economic agenda, it is up to Congress to find ways to support our troops overseas, and support them we must. For President Bush talks the talk of support for our troops while he and Republican leaders fail to walk the walk. In reality, they trash the future lives here at home for our brave servicemen and women today.
How do George Bush and his Republican henchmen mistreat our troops? Well, let me counts the ways. They are all outlined in the Republican budget before us today. Even though Bush may lie from time to time, the figures in his budget reveal his true intentions, and here they are.
First, there is no money for our troops to fight this war of his, no money, period. So much for Republican support for our troops.
Second, troops. Watch out if you come home as a veteran, because Bush and his Republican allies are cutting $15 billion from veterans' benefits, a fine thank you for your service. When you return from war, no health care at the VA hospital? Do not turn to Medicaid or Medicare for help. Bush and his Republican allies are cutting more than $160 billion from these vital health care programs as well. These cuts mean over 5 million children will lose their health coverage benefits. Benefits will be reduced by 30 percent for the children lucky enough to remain in Medicaid, which, by the way, may have to drop its prescription drug coverage altogether.
Now, Republicans talk about a Medicare drug benefit, but they do not budget funds to provide it, and a million elderly nursing home residents could be put out on the streets. So much for the parents of our military.
Now, for our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines, got kids? Do not look for help from Bush. His budget takes child care away from 30,000 children, kicks 570,000 kids out of after-school programs, eliminates Head Start for 28,000 children, and prevents a half a million poor children from getting free and reduced-price school meals. Even if your kids are lucky enough to get to school, they will be left shortchanged by Bush's $9.5 billion cut to education that was needed to assure his often-touted plan to leave no child behind. Clearly, that campaign is history.
Need help with housing when you get back? Too bad. The President cuts housing subsidies for 75,000 families.
Having trouble finding a job in the Bush recession? Sorry. Republicans do nothing in this budget to extend unemployment benefits for those who cannot find jobs. At least his daddy and Ronnie Reagan extended unemployment benefits for over 33 weeks.
Say your war takes a long time and you want to retire when you come home. Forget about Social Security and Medicare. Bush took the money to fund those programs and gave it away as $1.5 trillion in tax cuts to the very richest Americans, 80 percent of those cuts going to people with incomes over 100 grand a year. The only servicemen and women I know who are making that much are working two night jobs.
So there you have it. The President starts a war to eliminate terror, knowing that it will only increase terrorist attacks at home. He tries to disarm a nation with no proven weapons of mass destruction, and he ignores a far worse threat of North Korea's nuclear weapons. He orders the assassination of an inhumane dictator to cover up the fact that he cannot find bin Laden, and then tells us in Congress to support the troops while he dishonors their very future by giving America's resources away to a small, rich cadre of Republican officeholders and campaign contributors.
Mr. Chairman, you do not praise a person for driving home drunk and avoiding an accident. You do not praise an A grade awarded to a child who cheats to get it. And thus, we should not support the war program of a President which defies every moral and ethical standard set by religious and government leaders around the world.
If you truly want to support and honor our servicemen and women, vote
against this antiveteran, antichild, anti-Christian, ``Bush-league'' Republican budget.
Announcement by the Chairman Pro Tempore
Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Watt).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I would note that there is $1.8 billion being cut from the Medicaid contributions to the State of Indiana, which I am sure the previous speaker supports.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Rangel), the distinguished ranking member of the Committee on Ways and Means, who knows all too well what it is to fight in a war with real bullets, unlike the White House and the current Republican administration.
(Mr. RANGEL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
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Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time. Mr. Chairman, I think if we were honest with each other, we would say we do not like any of our budgets, because we would like them to be…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time.
Mr. Chairman, I think if we were honest with each other, we would say we do not like any of our budgets, because we would like them to be balanced today, but that, regretfully, is not possible. But in comparing the budgets, I prefer the budget that we are presenting.
I prefer it because in our budget we are protecting America, we are increasing our defense budget, we are increasing our homeland security budget. In our budget, most importantly, and you do not see it to the extent you need to in our colleagues' budgets, we are strengthening the economy and creating new jobs. In our budget, we are providing fiscal responsibility.
One of the things I found most curious in the debate in the committee last week was that when we added up all the dollars that were spent in amendments offered by our Democratic colleagues, they amounted to over $1 trillion. Now, they would say to you what they did is they eliminated our tax cuts, and, in some cases, increased taxes to pay for their $1 trillion of new spending over the next 10 years.
When we came to Washington, a number of us said we wanted to get our country's financial house in order and balance the Federal budget and not grow this government. But what we see in the other budget is a growing of the government.
Mr. Chairman, what is disappointing to me is that when we have seen their amendments, both last week and this week, we have not seen any effort to reduce spending but increase it. And when we see what we do, what we are having to defend, I am embarrassed that it seems so difficult to defend. We have to defend a 1 percent cut in discretionary spending over this year's budget for just 1 year. Then we allow the budget to go up in the second year, we allow it to go up in the third year, we allow it to go up in the fourth year. The logic, though, is if you can make cuts in 1 year, they have benefit in terms of reducing spending for 10 years. I am proud of that.
But when our colleagues talk about the savings we are making, they add up all 10 years and then imply that it happens all in 1 year, or they say we are going to cut 1 percent every year, and we are not allowing the budgets to grow.
We want to slow the growth in the budgets next year, and then we are going to allow them to grow in the second year, allow them to grow in the third year, allow them to grow in the fourth year, allow them to grow in the fifth year, allow them to grow in the sixth year, allow them to grow in the seventh year, allow them to grow in the eighth year, allow them to grow in the ninth year, and allow them to grow in the tenth year.
But we are having to defend a 1-cent-per-dollar cut next year in some programs, but we are not cutting defense, homeland security, Medicare or Social Security, and we have also agreed that veterans' spending is going to go up.
So, for me, I am having a difficult time, because I would have liked our budget to have reduced spending more. But this is what we can agree to.
Now, when we talk about the 1 percent reduction, what we are looking at is waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement. You mean to tell me there is not 1 cent on a dollar of waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement in our government? You could not look at anyone with a straight face and tell them that.
I happen to have served on the Committee on Government Reform, for 16 years. I love that committee. We look at waste, fraud and abuse, and we attempt and are successful in many ways in getting reform. But it is taking too long. We need the authorizers to do a better job of looking at waste, fraud and abuse now, and we need the appropriators to do so as well.
Mr. Chairman, on my desk are hundreds of GAO reports. These are just for a few months. Financial Management Service:, Significant Weaknesses In Computer Control Continue. You could save millions of dollars there.
Weak Controls Result In Improper and Wasteful Purchases at FAA. You can save money there.
Medicaid Financial Management: Better Oversight Of State Claims For Federal Reimbursement Needed.
I love this one. Medicare Home Health Care. Payments To Home Health Agencies Are Considerably Higher Than Costs.
U.S. Postal Service: Deteriorating Financial Outlook Increases Need For Transformation. We have got to do those things.
Now, DOD has to be looked at as well, and that is one way we can help pay for all the needs that we have in DOD. Overpayments Continue, And Management And Accounting Issues Remain. Defense Inventory: Control Weaknesses Leave Restricted And Hazardous Excess Property Vulnerable To Improper Use, Loss And Theft.
These are just a few of the hundreds on my desk. This is just GAO. What
about the Inspector General's reports? We could fill up this whole table. This is literally the tip of the iceberg.
So, I am proud of our budget, because it is better than the budget we are seeing, but, Lord knows, it could be even better.
I encourage my colleagues to vote out our budget resolution. Let us get our country's financial house in order, and let us have the needed tax cuts that will generate the economic activity that will grow this economy. We want to protect America, strengthen the economy, and have fiscal responsibility. Our budget does that.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the chairman and commend him for the amazing job he is doing in a difficult situation. Mr. Chairman, today, of course, our thoughts and our prayers and our admiration are with…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the chairman and commend him for the amazing job he is doing in a difficult situation.
Mr. Chairman, today, of course, our thoughts and our prayers and our admiration are with those young men and women who are in the Middle East, risking their lives to help make us and the rest of the world more secure. We have absolutely the finest military in the world, and I have no doubt that they will make the most of the tools that we help provide them to do their job.
Part of our job today is to begin to work to support them for the fiscal year 2004. Now, that is not an easy thing to do, because obviously, there is a lot going on in the world. We continue to fight the war on terrorism on several different fronts; and of course, we have the military activity in Iraq today.
So for us to predict ahead exactly what the military situation is going to be or what the homeland security situation is going to be in 2004 is not an easy thing to do. But what this budget does is to fully support, completely support the request of the President for defense and homeland security.
Now, it may be that extra funding is required for homeland security or defense when we get there. We have heard folks on the other side talk a lot about supplementals for 2003, but what we are focused on now is what is the appropriate amount in this budget to help keep America secure for 2004, given what we know now.
This budget supports the President. It is important to say that no amount of money can guarantee absolute safety. I am afraid, Mr. Chairman, that there is sometimes a tendency for us in Congress to spread money around liberally.
However, part of our responsibility, particularly with homeland security, is to make sure that money can be used well and effectively and really makes us safer; not just replacing one dollar with another dollar, but really makes us safer. So that is what this budget tries to do. It tries to advance three important goals with national security: to win the war on terrorism, to protect America's homeland, and to help prepare for future challenges.
First, of course, the war on terrorism is on the forefront of our minds with the operations in Iraq and the continuing efforts to deal with terrorists all around the world. This budget makes a clear commitment supporting the President to make sure that we provide our Nation with the best-trained, best-equipped, most effective military force anywhere in the world.
It allocates $380 billion for the Department of Defense. That is an increase of $15 billion over this year. It includes a substantial pay raise for our military. It includes substantial increases for operation and maintenance. It includes substantial increases for the weapons systems we buy. As a matter of fact, it is the highest procurement budget ever in the history of the country. It includes nearly $10 billion to help us develop and deploy defenses against ballistic missiles.
We have already seen in the Iraq conflict missiles of various ranges, and the threat that that can pose. Of course, there are other places in the world where that is important.
As pointed out, this budget does not include the direct operational costs of military engagement in Iraq because this is the 2004 budget. We will probably have a supplemental to deal with the 2003 costs here, but this is giving us the baseline for 2004.
A second goal is to help protect America's homeland. There is more than $40 billion here to help do that. It includes things like programs to buy vaccines for smallpox and anthrax and other sorts of biological warfare.
It includes $1.7 billion to help improve our border safety, which is absolutely critical to homeland security. It continues to put money into the Transportation Security Administration for air travel and other things, to make sure that our air travel and other transportation systems are safe.
It includes $3.5 billion in first responder training and equipment. There are other programs not included in the $3.5 billion, for example, in the Department of Justice, in the Centers for Disease Control, that also help local folks be ready to make our country safer. Again, this budget supports the President's request to try to use money smartly to make sure that we are really safer.
Thirdly, it helps to prepare for future challenges. With all that is going on in
the world, we have to remember that there are other challenges ahead. We cannot see them clearly, but we know we have to do the research and development and training and testing and joint exercises for the military that help us prepare for that future day. So there is $61.8 billion for military research and development.
Overall, Mr. Chairman, for today and tomorrow, this budget helps make America safer.
Mr. Chairman, before anyone thinks that I am trying to impress upon them that I am a biblical scholar, I will tell my colleagues I am not, but I happened to listen to one Sunday evening. His name is…
Mr. Chairman, before anyone thinks that I am trying to impress upon them that I am a biblical scholar, I will tell my colleagues I am not, but I happened to listen to one Sunday evening. His name is Father Dennis Carver, and he was in Pass Christian, Mississippi. He was talking about a civilization called the Babylonians. They were apparently a very prosperous civilization, but one of the things that was unique about them is that for the sake of their prosperity, they would literally take their children, put them on an alter, and slit their throats.
Although the gentleman from Iowa's budget does not quite do that, I will say that it is fair to say that we are burdening our children with so much debt that they cannot possibly hope to attain the sort of lifestyle that we have, or remain the world's greatest Nation.
In 1994, the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle), the chairman of the Committee on the Budget, gave a speech on this House floor bemoaning the fact that at the time, every American man, woman, and child was $17,000 in debt as a portion of the national debt. The Republicans took over in 1995. I had hoped things would get better. But since 1995 through today, that same statistic is that every American man, woman, and child is now in debt $22,000. The Republicans have been in charge, the Republican Party. I had hoped they were truly fiscal conservatives. They have proven otherwise.
If we look at American history, during every single war in American history, and I challenge all of my colleagues to question me on this and look it up for themselves, in every other war in American history, they raised taxes to pay for that war. They took the attitude that those of us who were fortunate enough not to be in the front lines, not to be shot at, not to watch our comrades maimed, ought to at least be willing to pay for that. But there is a difference. Only this generation of Americans is saying that we are going to fight a war, we are going to occupy the nation of Iraq for at least 10 years, with a starting force of 100,000 people as occupiers, but, by the way, we are going to stick these young people in this room and the young people back in Mississippi, the young people in Texas, we are going to stick them with the bill, knowing that they will never have a chance to recover from that and they will continue to squander at least $1 billion a day every day of our lives as a Nation on interest on that debt.
The gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm) and other members of the Blue Dog Coalition have done an admirable job of saying, we have to do better. And I have to tell my colleagues, I am going to vote for the Blue Dog budget, but I would have been willing to vote for any budget that freezes all of the tax cuts, because it is simply not fair.
Two years ago, the gentleman from Iowa and others came to this floor and said the President's tax breaks would not increase the national debt. I say to my colleagues they were $802 billion wrong. At what point do they admit to their mistakes, and at what point do they stop the bleeding?
The Federal debt is still growing. On February 28, 2003,
the public debt was $6,445,790,102,794.08.
The public debt has increased by more than $802 billion
since Congress passed the President's first budget plan on
May 9, 2001. The debt grew $442,337,086,210.23 in the 12
months from February 28, 2002 to February 28, 2003.
There is no surplus except in trust funds. In the first
four months of fiscal year 2003, the Treasury reported a
budget deficit of $97.6 billion. However, the trust funds for
Social Security, Medicare, military retirement, and federal
employees retirement collected $90.2 billion in surpluses to
fund future benefits. Outside these trust funds, the federal
government ran a deficit of $187.8 billion.
During fiscal year 2002, Social Security added $159 billion
to its surplus, and the trust funds for Medicare, military
retirement, and federal employee retirement added to total of
$68 billion in surplus funds. Outside those trust funds, the
federal government ran a deficit of $386 billion. The
Congressional Budget Office reported that fiscal year 2002
had the largest percentage decrease in revenues in 56 years
and the largest percentage increase in spending in 20 years.
We spend almost one billion dollars per day on interest.
The Treasury spent $332.5 billion on interest on the debt in
fiscal year 2002. Military spending totaled $332.1 billion,
slightly less than the interest expense, despite a 14 percent
increase to fight the war on terrorism. Medicare spending
totaled $256 billion, $77 billion less than we spent on
interest.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I thank the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt) for the time, and for his good work on this budget. It is a matter of economic…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I thank the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt) for the time, and for his good work on this budget. It is a matter of economic security.
Mr. Chairman, I believe that the easiest way that we can ensure economic security to this Nation is to pass a budget that actually balances. The other side will argue that theirs does, but we know that it does not, not unless we use the Social Security Trust Fund to pay down the debt, and that is not really balancing. It is breaking a promise to the American people and raiding a priority to pay for a select tax expenditure.
In this time of sacrifice, we are debating the passage of a budget that increases the debt and takes money away from programs that help our most deserving, our seniors and our veterans.
This budget cuts almost $107 billion from the Medicaid program and $62 billion from the Medicare program, and in this time of war, this budget cuts our veterans programs by $30 billion.
I received a letter today from one of my constituents, Florence Newton from Humboldt County, California, a retired marine, who sent me an article that talks about the 7-month wait for veterans to get an appointment with the VA, and she asks is there not something we can do about this? She describes the situation with one word, unconscionable, and she is right. It is unconscionable that we are slashing these critical programs, and it is even more unconscionable that we are doing so to finance a $1.6 trillion tax expenditure.
Today, the Blue Dogs will introduce an alternative that does balance the budget and does so without raiding Social Security. It adopts the spending level in the President's budget proposal, reserves money for the Medicare prescription drug program, provides immediate and targeted tax relief to all taxpayers, particularly those middle-class families, and it has $1.35 trillion less debt than the Republican budget, reducing the amount of money we spend on paying interest on the debt, which currently costs us $1 billion a day, reducing it by $250 billion.
It acknowledges the fact that we are a Nation at war. It pays for the war, and it provides funding, $24 billion for our veterans programs. This means funding for discretionary veterans programs like the VA Health Care Program, the service-connected disabilities and burial benefits, all of which are cut drastically by the Republican proposal that is on the floor today.
The Blue Dog budget responds to the concerns of constituents like Florence Newton, who are finding our financial affairs and the resulting shortage in services to be unconscionable. I am proud to stand behind the Blue Dog alternative which provides this Nation with the economic certainty it needs in these uncertain times and into the future.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Scott), a distinguished new Member of the House that spent 20 years on the appropriations committee in Georgia balancing their budget.
(Mr. SCOTT of Georgia asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Boyd), an esteemed Blue Dog colleague and former first lieutenant with the 101st Airborne in Vietnam.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The national chairman of the Disabled American Veterans wrote the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hastert) and he said, ``Has Congress no shame? Is there no honor left in the hallowed halls of our government that you choose to dishonor the sacrifices of our Nation's heroes and rob our programs, health care and disability compensation, to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy?''
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Bishop), who represents a number of veterans at Fort Benning, Georgia.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Sandlin), a member of the Committee on Ways and Means.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Harman), ranking member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
I just want to reiterate my support for the Blue Dog budget, a budget that is balanced, it reduces the debt, and provides a reasonable level of services to our veterans and our seniors. Unlike the majority budget, it does it without robbing from Social Security, Medicare and the veterans programs. I urge everybody on both sides of the aisle to vote for the Blue Dog budget.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to me. Mr. Speaker, indeed, I am a member of the Budget Committee. It is my first year on this committee and my ninth year on the Appropriations…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to me.
Mr. Speaker, indeed, I am a member of the Budget Committee. It is my first year on this committee and my ninth year on the Appropriations Committee. Certainly I am pleased with the progress that we have made during my 8 years of service in the Congress in terms of what we have been able to do on the budget.
In 1995, a Democrat President came before this Congress and proposed deficits as far as the eye could see: the first decade, deficits of $200 billion a year; then $300 billion a year every year after that. We Republicans said that we could do it differently. We said we could make the tough choices, and we enacted a budget resolution in 1995 to say that we would balance the budget in 7 years.
We had a little good luck with the economy, I think in large part because of our tax cuts that we gave to the American people, and we were able to balance the budget in half that time. Now, this day, in 2003, we are facing deficits.
So what happened between those successful days of surpluses and the budget deficit that we are facing right now? The main thing that happened to our budget to put us back into deficits is, frankly, the terrorist attack of 9-11, 2001. That one event, Mr. Speaker, cost us $80 billion in additional expenditures in one fiscal year alone, and an additional $200 billion, approximately, in lost revenue. So it is no wonder that that hit to our economy has cost us the surplus, and that we are back into deficits.
Of course, we are experiencing a recession now, and we have to address that, also. It has been another part of this deficit.
But this debate today, as provided for under the rule, Mr. Speaker, will be very instructive. I just want to point out to my colleagues, Mr. Speaker, that everyone today will want to come down to the floor and decry deficit spending. We will not hear one single Member of this House of Representatives come to the floor today and advocate deficits or say they like deficits.
The big difference in the debate, as provided for under this rule, is how we propose to tackle the problem. Today--this budget debate--is one of the best opportunities to see the differences between the two political parties on this issue. My friend, the gentleman from Georgia who spoke just a few moments ago, is exactly correct on this. It is very instructive because it represents two very different philosophies of spending.
With all due respect, my Democrat friends will present proposals today that say they want to attack the deficit problem by enacting higher taxes and higher spending. I say that with all due respect. It is their political philosophy and it is simply a fact.
On the other hand, the House Republican budget that I support today, presents a plan to balance the Federal
budget in 9 years. How do we do that? We do that the way we always try to do it, by keeping the pressure on to hold down Federal expenditures and the rate of growth of Federal spending, and by boosting the economy by reducing the tax burden on hardworking Americans.
Some people have said that our budget is too austere, that it does not spend enough money. We will have that debate today. But I would like for my colleagues, Mr. Speaker, to look at this chart about where spending has been under the 8 years of Republican majorities and where it will go under the budget resolution. This spending trend of non- Social Security mandatory outlays in billions of dollars shows that this very austere budget will still amount to quite an increase in Federal expenditures.
Mr. Speaker, let's not let anyone tell us that we are actually cutting Federal spending in anything we do today. The question is simply, What is the rate of growth and who will grow it at a larger rate? Our budget grows the total Federal budget at a rate of 3.1 percent for next year. I say, Mr. Speaker, that is an adequate figure, considering the fact that we are going to have to spend more money on national defense and that we are in a recession and we need to give the American taxpayer more of their money back in the form of tax cuts to stimulate the economy.
Mr. Speaker, I congratulate my chairman, the gentleman from Iowa (Chairman Nussle), on this budget. I thank him for working with me as a new member of the Committee, and certainly I intend to support this budget resolution. I ask each of my colleagues to join in a ``yes'' vote on the rule and also on the Republican budget proposal.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment in the nature of a substitute. Mr. Chairman, I yield to myself as much time as I may consume. (Mr. HILL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his…
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment in the nature of a substitute.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to myself as much time as I may consume.
(Mr. HILL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, the Blue Dog plan that we are offering today combines short-term economic stimulus and immediate tax relief for all taxpayers with long-term fiscal discipline to balance the budget by 2009 and return to saving the Social Security surplus by 2013. The Blue Dog budget has nearly $2 trillion less debt than the President's budget from the year 2003 to 2013. The Blue Dog budget calls for tough spending limits by adopting the President's overall spending levels but does not rely on unreasonable or unrealistic spending cuts from the President's proposal.
The Blue Dog budget will hold Congress accountable for the increase in the debt tax by limiting increases in the debt limit and requiring regular votes by Congress to raise the debt limit until the budget is on the path towards balance.
We strongly support the President in the war on terrorism and in keeping a strong defense. Our budget provides the President with everything he requested for defense and homeland security and sets aside a reserve fund for additional funding for homeland security if the administration requests it. The Blue Dog budget is good policy, plain and simple. For every $1,000 each taxpayer sends to Washington, an income tax roughly $180 goes to pay the interest on our national debt. The Blue Dog budget reduces that burden while the Republican budget increases that burden. That is what we call the ``debt tax.'' Eighteen percent of the Federal budget, over $2,500 per person, over $4,000 per family, and it only gets worse if we follow their plan. Bob Dole called it the stealth tax in 1996. It was mentioned in a 1995 Republican-authored resolution, and it was referenced in the first plank of the 1994 Republican Contract with America.
The debt tax is money that goes towards nothing, and it is a tax that cannot be repealed. It does not make our Nation stronger. It does not make health care more affordable. It does not make our schools better. It does not provide more jobs, and it surely does not make our economy more robust.
It is time to get back on the track towards balancing the Federal budget. We cannot and should not send our troops, our brave men and women, into battle, then saddle them with the bill. It is not the right thing to do, and everybody in this body knows it. The Blue Dog budget will restore fiscal responsibility, stability, and accountability to Federal budgeting process. A
great American from the great State of Tennessee once said that no nation has ever been free, strong, and broke.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Schiff).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Maine (Mr. Michaud), a new Member, and a fine one at that.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to my good friend, the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Tanner), a great American.
(Mr. TANNER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. Taylor), the strongest voice in this House about the era of Federal budget deficits.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Turner).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Boyd).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Kansas (Mr. Moore).
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings).
(Mr. HASTINGS of Florida asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to compliment the gentleman from Iowa for his hard work on the committee, and to thank him for allowing the Blue Dogs to make this presentation here today.
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm).
(Mr. STENHOLM asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, the Blue Dog budget is based on a very simple premise that basically says that our generation needs to be willing to have the courage to pay the bills that we are incurring and not pass…
Mr. Chairman, the Blue Dog budget is based on a very simple premise that basically says that our generation needs to be willing to have the courage to pay the bills that we are incurring and not pass this staggering debt on to our children.
As hard as this may be to imagine, we the people of the United States of America owe $6.4 trillion. If we follow the budget plan that the majority has put forward, that number will balloon to $10 trillion, and our country will be unable to meet its obligations. Can you imagine the richest country on Earth dead broke?
Eight months ago Congress increased the debt ceiling by $450 billion to pay for additional spending and tax cuts. Now the Treasury Department has notified us that we have reached this new debt limit, and it will have to be increased in the coming weeks.
It gets even worse. The Congressional Budget Office recently reported that the deficit for this year will be $287 billion, and that is without paying any cost of the war that has begun in Iraq. They also predicted over the next 10 years another $2 trillion of debt will be piled onto what we have already incurred.
Last year taxpayers in this country paid an accrued $332 billion in interest on revenues of $1.8 trillion. That amounts to a Federal debt tax on American families of 18 cents on every dollar. Said another way, we have an 18 percent mortgage on this country, and it is growing.
Notwithstanding the moral arguments of what we are doing to the next generation of Americans, at some point, in order to make the public investment needed to keep a world-class military, a healthy and educated workforce, and the bricks-and-mortar infrastructure that enables private enterprise in this country to flourish, we must stop deficit spending.
People since the dawn of civilization have tried to borrow themselves rich. It never worked then, and it will not work now, and it will not work in the future. That is exactly the prescription that the Republicans are asking us to follow; we can borrow ourselves rich. It will never happen.
We must stop the hemorrhaging, the hemorrhaging, from the Federal Treasury, because it is bleeding from every pore of our body. Any rational person understands that this business plan for our country is not a tenable plan and cannot be sustained over time.
Now, here we are debating today what direction our country will take. This plan includes no cuts in the veterans' programs that some have talked about. But it does something else. At this moment when our men and women in uniform are in battle, they are the only people in this society being asked to sacrifice anything, anything, and that is absolutely unfair. It is not only unfair, it is immoral. So what we have done in the Blue Dog plan is we have asked the most financially well-to-do people in this country to defer the additional tax cuts they get in addition to everybody else under our plan, we have asked them to defer their additional tax cuts in order to help pay for this war so that we do not continue to dig this hole deeper.
Now, I agree with the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle) on one thing: When you say in Washington, and only in Washington, that an increase is considered a cut because it is not a projected increase, then it is considered a cut here, that is baloney, and I agree with the gentleman. I will also tell the gentleman that when you try to accuse somebody of raising taxes on a tax cut that is not yet effective, that is equally political baloney, and everybody knows it.
I just would say this: Something has got to be done. We cannot continue down this road of debt, more debt and more debt. And if we do not do something about it, we have completely abdicated our responsibility not only to our country today, but to our country tomorrow. That is why I would urge every Member who worries about the financial condition of this country and its ability to maintain the world-class military that we all desire and all of the other things I have talked about, please consider voting for and supporting the Blue Dog budget.
I thank the gentleman very much for yielding me this time. Mr. Chairman, today in Northampton, Massachusetts, they are having problems funding a homeless shelter for veterans. As we watched the…
I thank the gentleman very much for yielding me this time.
Mr. Chairman, today in Northampton, Massachusetts, they are having problems funding a homeless shelter for veterans. As we watched the morning headline and the evening newscast, we are struck by the brave commitment of our men and women on the borders of Iraq and perhaps, as I speak, within the borders of Iraq as they prepare for an all-out invasion of Iraq. At a moment like this when we are watching this commitment, it is important to think of the significant and personal sacrifices these brave men and women are making. But at the same time that we are creating hundreds of thousands of new veterans through their distinguished service, the Congress today debates a Republican budget that mandates cuts in veterans programs.
I talk to these folks at the Northampton VA, I meet with them regularly, and they point out there simply is less money every year in the VA for honoring the commitment we made to our soldiers.
I know that the Republicans today through another manager's amendment, only because when they went back to their membership, the membership said to them, ``what are you thinking of,'' that they have added in this amendment a few more dollars in an attempt to ameliorate some of their cuts. But the compelling truth is that this nominal increase will quickly be overcome by more than 2 percent in annual cuts in the years following. According to the Congressional Budget Office, their spending on veterans' health care and benefits is not enough to maintain purchasing power, which simply means real cuts in veterans programs.
As the National Commander of the Disabled American Veterans said of this budget being proposed by the majority Republican Party in this Congress, ``This budget dishonors the service of millions of service- connected disabled veterans, including combat-disabled veterans, and seriously erodes the Nation's commitment to care for its defenders.''
Stand strong today for the Democratic proposal. Honor the commitment we made to our veterans and vote down this Republican budget proposal.
House of Representatives,
Committee on the Budget,
Washington, DC, March 20, 2003.
American Legion Declares Spratt Budget ``Better Approach''
Dear Colleague: The Republican budget that will be
considered on the floor today cuts discretionary funding for
veterans health care below the level needed to maintain
purchasing power at the 2003 level by a total of $14.2
billion over ten years. Their budget also directs the
Veterans' Affairs Committee to cut $14.6 billion from
mandatory benefit payments to veterans, including
compensation for service-connected disabilities, burial
benefits, and veterans education benefits.
Unlike the Republican budget, the Democratic alternative
rejects any cuts to veterans' benefits over the next ten
years. And it addresses the rising demand for veterans health
care by funding veterans' health programs, including medical
research and construction, at $2 billion above the level
needed to maintain purchasing power at the 2003 level over
the next ten years. For 2004, the Democratic budget provides
$633 million more for veterans programs than the Republican
plan, and it provides $30.3 billion more for veterans than
the House Republican budget over ten years. The American
Legion calls the Democratic alternative ``a much better
approach toward reaching a balanced budget''.
The four groups--Disabled American Veterans, AMVETS,
Paralyzed Veterans of America, and the Veterans of Foreign
Wars--that assess the needs of veterans and the funding they
believe is required to meet those needs, known as The
Independent Budget, have reviewed the Republican plan and the
Democratic alternative and have concluded that the Democratic
alternative ``represents a solid step forward in meeting the
very real needs of veterans''.
I have attached these letters and ask that you give them
your attention before you vote on the Budget Resolution
today.
Sincerely,
John M. Spratt, Jr.
Ranking Member.
Mr. Chairman, I certainly appreciate those kind words that the gentleman had to say. It is very important for us to understand exactly where we are right now, and let me start by setting the stage of…
Mr. Chairman, I certainly appreciate those kind words that the gentleman had to say.
It is very important for us to understand exactly where we are right now, and let me start by setting the stage of my remarks by sharing with my colleagues the words of William Shakespeare, who said in Julius Caesar, when Julius Caeser was being stabbed, he said, ``O, Brutus, yours is the meanest cut of all.'' That is what these veterans are saying today.
To my friends from the Republican Party and their alternative in their budget, it is the meanest cut of all, to cut our veterans at this time, at this day, at this hour when we are watching television and we see over in the Middle East where our men and women in uniform are putting their lives on the line, and what are we doing here? What is the Republican answer to that, to our military veterans? To cut them by $15 billion. Indeed, the meanest cut of all.
My colleagues talk about conservative compassionism. I am here to tell my colleagues, this is not conservative compassionism. This is downright conservative meanness. It is mean to cut our military and our veterans, by any amount. They need help.
Fifteen billion dollars is going to eliminate 200,000 of our veterans off the rolls. It is going to fold and close up 400,000 hospital beds. That is meanness. We need to turn it around and follow our Blue Dog coalition budget, which is very responsible. We are not cutting the budget for Veterans Affairs by $15 billion. No. We are adding to that by $24 billion. That is what the American people want, and at no time is it better to send the right message.
I conclude my remarks by simply saying, what better time is there to stand and give our veterans respect than at this important moment in our history?
Mr. Chairman, the Nussle budget focuses on fiscally irresponsible tax cuts, while failing to address priorities and commitments to
working families, the elderly, and veteran. What concerns me is that future generations will pay for the deficits created by this budget, while our veteran's will pay now.
On Monday the American Legion, the Veterans of Foreign Wars, and the Disabled American Veterans called on Congress to scrap proposed budget cuts in disability compensation, pensions, and healthcare to offset the costs of tax breaks and huge spending increases on defense and homeland security.
The Nussle budget cuts approximately $15.1 billion from veterans programs, of which $844 is cut from veterans health care programs. This could eliminate enrollment for 168,000 veterans, necessitate 400,000 fewer hospital bed days of care, or reduce the number of nurses by 8,700.
Further, according to the VA's own national data, over 200,000 veterans are waiting 6 months or more just to get in the VA Medical System and it can take over 18 for certain types of specialty treatments.
Our Nation cannot commit men and women to fight overseas while reducing the health care and benefits that our veterans have earned risking their lives serving their country.
It is unbelievable that the Nussle budget cuts funding for veterans' programs to offset the costs of tax cuts for the wealthy.
The Blue Dog budget, which I support, contains $24 billion more funding for veterans programs than the Nussle budget. It contains $9 billion more for discretionary veterans programs such as VA health care, and does not require the Veterans Affairs Committee to reduce spending on veterans benefits and other mandatory veterans programs by $15 billion as the Nussle budget would do.
I support the President and his efforts to oust Saddam Hussein from power. I want to give him as much support as possible to help pay for this conflict. This budget resolution contains no funding for a military conflict with Iraq or the post-conflict occupation and reconstruction costs that will follow.
The costs of the war with Iraq will largely be borne by the United States taxpayer and prudent fiscal policy requires that these costs must be included within the budget resolution.
Mr. Chairman, America is at war, and the Blue Dog budget reflects this new reality. Our plan strengthens national defense, improves homeland security, all in the context of a responsible budget. I…
Mr. Chairman, America is at war, and the Blue Dog budget reflects this new reality.
Our plan strengthens national defense, improves homeland security, all in the context of a responsible budget.
I have always tried to support my colleagues on the other side of the aisle when they were right, but today their budget is all wrong.
In an effort to squeeze the President's tax cut package into their budget, our Republican colleagues have proposed spending levels below the President's that are highly unlikely to be attainable in the current climate of war and the need to protect the homeland from terrorism. And even after cutting the President's budget, the Republican budget continues to dig the deficit hole deeper, saddling the taxpayers of this country with a national debt of over $11.5 trillion in 2013. That is an increase of $5.1 trillion in debt in the next 10 years. That means every American taxpayer will owe approximately $5,100 every year just to pay the interest on the national debt. That is a debt tax that cannot be repealed.
In contrast, the Blue Dog budget is a realistic effort to control runaway Federal spending. It adopts the spending recommendations of our President. The Republican budget, on the other hand, turns its back on their own President's spending recommendations for veterans benefits, Medicare, Social Security, agriculture, and education.
The Blue Dog budget puts us back on a path to a unified balance by 2009 and restores the Social Security lockbox by 2013, a very significant year, because in that year, for the first time, the Social Security Administration projects that our government will begin paying out more each month in benefits than we received in payroll taxes.
By contrast, the Republican budget never restores the Social Security lockbox, turning their back on a promise made to America's seniors.
Since the Blue Dog budget adopts the total spending levels in the President's budget, my colleagues may be asking, what does the Blue Dog budget do differently than the Republican budget? It differs in one significant respect. It recognizes that long-term national security requires long-term fiscal responsibility. No nation has ever been strong and broke.
When our budget policies show that our current tax and spending plans will lead our Nation to ever-increasing debt, we are weakening our ability to respond to national security threats. At this very moment, while young men and women in uniform are courageously fighting the enemy in the deserts of Iraq, we are charging the financial cost of the war to the Federal Government's credit card. Who in this Chamber can explain to the American people why we are charging the cost of this war to the very generation that is now fighting this war? The Blue Dogs believe our generation should pay for this war.
Our Republican friends say, deficits no longer matter, and tax cuts will stimulate the economy, and tax revenues will return. We tried that in 2001 and what did we get? We saw the economy decline and a $5 trillion surplus disappear into thin air.
The Blue Dogs invite our Republican friends not to bet the whole farm on an ideologically driven supply-side economic theory, but join us in accelerating the marginal tax relief, accelerating the child tax credit, accelerating the elimination of the marriage penalty; but in the name of fiscal responsibility and national security, we should not accelerate the tax cuts for those families who have over $170,000 a year in income. Surely the top 3 percent of America's families will be proud to share in the patriotism of making this small sacrifice as those young men and women are doing in Iraq today.
We know that we should not ask those men and women in uniform to pay for the war we have called on them to fight. I invite all true fiscal conservatives to support the Blue Dog budget.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from Indiana for yielding me this time. I want to announce and show the audience here in the Chamber that the Concord Coalition, which is a national watchdog…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from Indiana for yielding me this time.
I want to announce and show the audience here in the Chamber that the Concord Coalition, which is a national watchdog organization on the budget, issued a press statement today; and I want to just quote briefly from that:
``The Blue Dog budget does the best job of balancing short term concerns with long term fiscal discipline. The Blue Dog budget is clearly superior to the alternatives. It strikes a prudent balance among competing priorities by restraining spending and limiting newer expanded tax cuts to those that have an immediate impact and minimum long term cost.''
I hope we will set aside partisanship and listen to a respected, objective organization, the national coalition, and approve the Blue Dog budget.
Mr. Chairman, as a member of the Committee on the Budget, I commend the gentleman from Iowa (Chairman Nussle) for his commitment to providing a balanced budget and for acknowledging that debt and deficits do matter.
The Committee on the Budget passed a budget last week on a party line vote. At least it was an honest budget. It said that in order for us to pass huge tax cuts when we are already projecting deficits as far as the eye can see, we must pass spending cuts. In deference to Mr. Chairman over here, he would say, find savings in all functions of government. So please understand it that way.
Over $100 billion below the President's request for discretionary spending, $262 billion in Medicare cuts are finding savings, $110 billion in Medicaid cuts are savings, $19 billion in agriculture cuts are savings, $39 billion in government employees' pensions, and $15 billion in veterans benefits at a time that we are going to war, when our domestic security is threatened and our States and local governments are in financial crisis. That is the problem with this budget, Mr. Chairman: The reductions proposed simply are not reality.
Everyone here remembers last year's appropriations process. We just completed it last month. Congress ended up spending, or appropriating, $12 billion more than the President's recommended levels. This budget proposes cuts in the President's austere request. This budget, simply for that reason, I believe, with all respect to the chairman and the committee, is not reality.
Look at what has happened the last weeks. In the face of an outright revolt on many of these cuts, what did the majority do? They restored some of the so-called spending cuts, or savings, that were found, about $200 billion in Medicare over 10 years. That is what is going to happen more and more. That is why I believe we simply cannot meet the spending levels proposed, with all respect, by the majority's budget.
This budget, because of its emphasis on tax cuts, never, I repeat, never, gets us to on-budget balance. Instead, it increases gross debt by over $5 trillion over the next 10 years. The structural deficits in this budget, Mr. Chairman, will explode gross interest payments to $3.8 trillion during the next decade. Interest, as has already been mentioned, it is the most wasteful spending we have because it commits our future generations in this country, our children and grandchildren, to paying something, a tax, what we call a debt tax.
The gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Hill) indicated that Senator Dole called this a stealth tax. We call it a debt tax. It is a tax that can never be repealed because it is the interest of service on the national debt.
The Blue Dog budget cuts taxes. It provides an income tax cut for all taxpayers. It immediately eliminates the marriage penalty, accelerates the child tax credit, and on and on. Listen to the Concord Coalition, the objective voice here, endorsing the Blue Dog budget.
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[H. Res. 151 Engrossed in House (EH)]
In the House of Representatives, U.S.,
March 20, 2003.
Resolved, That at any time after the adoption of this resolution the Speaker
may, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XVIII, declare the House resolved into the
Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union for consideration of the
concurrent resolution (H. Con. Res. 95) establishing the congressional budget
for the United States Government for fiscal year 2004 and setting forth
appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2003 and 2005 through 2013. The
first reading of the concurrent resolution shall be dispensed with. All points
of order against consideration of the concurrent resolution are waived. General
debate shall not exceed three hours, with two hours of general debate confined
to the congressional budget equally divided and controlled by the chairman and
ranking minority member of the Committee on the Budget, and one hour of general
debate on the subject of economic goals and policies equally divided and
controlled by Representative Saxton of New Jersey and Representative Stark of
California or their designees. After general debate the concurrent resolution
shall be considered for amendment under the five-minute rule. The amendment in
the nature of a substitute specified in part A of the report of the Committee on
Rules accompanying this resolution shall be considered as adopted in the House
and in the Committee of the Whole. The concurrent resolution, as amended, shall
be considered as read. No further amendment shall be in order except those
printed in part B of the report of the Committee on Rules. Each amendment may be
offered only in the order printed in the report, may be offered only by a Member
designated in the report, shall be considered as read, shall be debatable for
one hour equally divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent, and
shall not be subject to amendment. All points of order against the amendments
printed in the report are waived except that the adoption of a further amendment
in the nature of a substitute shall constitute the conclusion of consideration
of the concurrent resolution for amendment. After the conclusion of
consideration of the concurrent resolution for further amendment, and a final
period of general debate, which shall not exceed 20 minutes equally divided and
controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on the
Budget, the Committee shall rise and report the concurrent resolution, as
amended, to the House with such further amendment as may have been adopted. The
previous question shall be considered as ordered on the concurrent resolution
and amendments thereto to final adoption without intervening motion except
amendments offered by the chairman of the Committee on the Budget pursuant to
section 305(a)(5) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 to achieve
mathematical consistency. The concurrent resolution shall not be subject to a
demand for division of the question of its adoption.
Attest:
Clerk.