Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume, and I rise in strong support of H.R. 3199, the USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization Act of 2005. Mr. Chairman, the attacks of…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume, and I rise in strong support of H.R. 3199, the USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization Act of 2005.
Mr. Chairman, the attacks of September 11, 2001, tragically affirmed the urgency of updating America's laws to address the clear and present danger presented by international terrorism. On that day, foreign terrorists maliciously and without provocation attacked the United States, murdered thousands of our citizens, and destroyed symbols of our freedom in a failed effort to break the spirit and resolve of the American people.
We must also recall that these terrorists exploited historic divisions between America's law enforcement and intelligence communities that had limited the dissemination of vital and timely information and increased America's vulnerability to terrorist attack.
In the wake of the 9/11 atrocities, broad bipartisan majorities in both Houses of Congress passed the PATRIOT Act that lowered the wall that prohibited our law enforcement and intelligence communities from effectively sharing information, and to enhance investigatory tools necessary to assess, detect, and prevent future terrorist attacks. U.S. law enforcement and intelligence authorities have utilized the expanded information sharing provisions contained in the PATRIOT Act to gain critical knowledge of the attentions of foreign-based terrorists before they occur, while preempting gathering terrorist threats at home.
While the PATRIOT Act and other anti-terrorism initiatives have helped avert additional attacks on our soil, that threat has not receded. Exactly 2 weeks ago, innocent citizens in London were murdered in a series of ruthlessly coordinated attacks. Earlier today, it appears, the London subway system came under renewed attack. Last year, the Madrid bombings brought unprecedented terror to the people of Spain, and ongoing terrorist operations around the globe demonstrate the imperative for continued vigilance.
When the House Committee on the Judiciary reported the PATRIOT Act in October 2001, I pledged to rigorously examine its implementation and the conduct of the war against terrorism. In my words and in my actions as committee Chair, I have maintained this commitment and emphasized the importance of better protecting our citizenry from terrorist attack while, at the same time preserving the values and liberties that distinguish us as Americans. The legislation we consider today reflects this careful balance.
H.R. 3199 is based upon 4 years of comprehensive bipartisan oversight consisting of hearing testimony, Inspector General reports, briefings, and oversight letters. Since April of this year alone, the committee has received testimony from 35 witnesses during 12 hearings on the PATRIOT Act. This extensive hearing and oversight record has demonstrated that the PATRIOT Act has been an effective tool against terrorists and other criminals. Of no less importance, and notwithstanding the vague and general suspicion expressed by some of its detractors, the record shows that there is no evidence whatsoever that the PATRIOT Act has been abused to violate Americans' civil liberties. None whatsoever.
To further allay concerns expressed by some, this bill makes important revisions to section 215 of the PATRIOT Act, which pertains to business records obtained through the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA. I would note that section 215 is probably the most misunderstood and deliberately misrepresented provision of the PATRIOT Act. H.R. 3199 clarifies that the information likely to be obtained through a FISA warrant must relate to foreign intelligence information not concerning a U.S. person, or must be information pertaining to an ongoing international terrorism investigation or clandestine intelligence activities. The legislation also explicitly clarifies that a section 215 order will issue only ``if the judge finds that the requirements have been met,'' and provides a judicial review process to authorize the court to set aside a section 215 order that has been challenged. Contrary to the unfounded allegations of some, there is no evidence that a single section 215 order has been served on any library since the PATRIOT Act was passed in October of 2001.
The Committee on the Judiciary last week conducted a nearly 12-hour markup of this legislation, at which 43 amendments were offered and debated. The reported version of this legislation extends for 10 years the sunset on sections 206 and 215 of the PATRIOT Act.
Section 206 pertains to roving wiretaps under FISA. This crucial provision updates the law to reflect contemporary communications technology by making a suspected terrorist, rather than a communications device, the proper target of a wiretap. This sunset provision was approved by the committee by an overwhelming bipartisan vote of 26 to 2. However, while the legislation sets expiration dates on certain provisions of the PATRIOT Act, congressional oversight of the entire PATRIOT Act must be perpetual.
Let me conclude with the following point: For too long opponents of the PATRIOT Act have transformed it into a grossly distorted caricature that bears no relationship whatsoever to the legislation itself. The PATRIOT Act has been misused by some as a springboard to launch limitless allegations that are not only unsubstantiated but are false and irresponsible. Our constituents expect and deserve substantive consideration of this vital issue, and I hope that today's debate reflects the bipartisan seriousness that this issue demands.
Mr. Chairman, the security of the American people is the most solemn responsibility of all entrusted to the Congress. Passage of the USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization Act of 2005 is vital to maintaining the post-9/11 law enforcement intelligence reforms that have reduced America's vulnerability to terrorist attack. We must never return to the pre-
9/11 mindset that ignores the painful lessons of that day as well as the tragic experiences of our friends and allies.
I would urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to support this vital legislation.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Smith).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute.
The gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Boucher) is sincere in his opposition to this bill, and I respect that. However, neither the national security letter scheme nor the delayed notification scheme were authorized for the first time by the PATRIOT Act. That was legislation that was in place prior to October 2001 when the original PATRIOT Act was passed and signed into law by the President.
What the PATRIOT Act did in both national security letters as well as in delayed notification warrants was simply to extend to anti-terrorism investigations authorities that already existed and up until that time had been found constitutional in investigations such as Mafia investigations, racketeering investigations, and drug-trafficking investigations.
So these complaints were not caused by the PATRIOT Act. They were caused by existing legislation, and we should deal with that, not in the context of this bill but elsewhere.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Coble).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Daniel E. Lungren).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Feeney).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Pence).
(Mr. PENCE asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume, and I yield to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Schwarz).
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, I am pleased that this bill and the USA PATRIOT Act will continue to protect civil liberties, while also providing law enforcement the tools they need to fight terrorists intent on harming Americans.
I yield further to the gentleman from Michigan.
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, yes, that is an accurate reading of the bill.
I further yield to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Schwarz).
Mr. Chairman, further reclaiming my time, again, that is an accurate reading of the bill. I further yield to the gentleman from Michigan.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Gohmert).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Michigan (Mrs. Miller).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. McCaul).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute.
Mr. Chairman, I rarely disagree with my friend from North Carolina (Mr. Watt), but I want to take some time to correct the record.
The delayed notification or so-called ``sneak-and-peek'' warrants were authorized in the late seventies for purposes of racketeering and drug-trafficking investigations and were held constitutional by the Supreme Court in the early eighties as not violative of the fourth amendment.
What the PATRIOT Act did was expand this previously existing authority to terrorism investigations. So if the PATRIOT Act never existed, the 18 instances where the delayed-notification warrants were used for terrorism investigations would have been illegal. But all of the other investigations that the gentleman from North Carolina referred to would have been legal under existing practice which have been held constitutional.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1\1/2\ minutes to rebut my good friend from California.
Mr. Chairman, effective oversight is a function of effective congressional leadership and not as a result of legislative sunsets. If we restricted oversight to legislative sunsets, only about 5 percent of the laws that we pass are sunset, and most of those are appropriations bills.
Now, the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) is the chairman of an oversight subcommittee on the Committee on International Relations. I do not see any sunsets coming on bills coming out of the Committee on International Relations because I have faith in the gentleman from California's (Mr. Rohrabacher) being able to do effective oversight.
The Committee on the Judiciary has done a huge amount of oversight. We have had extensive hearings. There has been more process and more hearings and more witnesses on more sides of the issue on the PATRIOT Act than practically any other piece of legislation that I have faced in my 26-plus years as a Member of Congress.
Thirty-five witnesses, 12 hearings, oversight letters, responses, inspectors general reports. I wish I had brought all of the paper that has come about as a result of the Committee on the Judiciary's oversight, because it would stack this high off the table here in the House Chamber.
Mr. Chairman, the following is a listing of the oversight activities so that the American public and everybody can see that this committee has done its job. It has done its job effectively, and it has made sure that the civil liberties of the people of this country have not been infringed upon.
Hearing Chronology: House Judiciary Committee Consideration of the USA
Patriot Act, As of June 21, 2005
full committee consideration
June 10, 2005: Full Committee--Oversight Hearing on the
Reauthorization of the USA PATRIOT Act: Carlina Tapia-Ruano,
First Vice-President of the American Immigration Lawyers
Association (Minority witness); Dr. James J. Zogby, President
of the Arab American Institute (Minority witness); Deborah
Pearlstein, Director of Human Rights First (Minority
witness); and Chip Pitts, Chair of the Board of Amnesty
International USA.
June 8, 2005: Full Committee--Oversight Hearing on the
Reauthorization of the USA PATRIOT Act: Deputy Attorney
General James B. Corney.
April 6, 2005: Full Committee--Oversight Hearing on the
Department of Justice, The Use of the Law Enforcement
Authorities Granted under the USA PATRIOT Act: Attorney
General Alberto Gonzales.
subcommittee consideration
May 26, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing on Material Witness
Provisions of the Criminal Code and the Implementation of the
USA PATRIOT Act: Section 505 that Addresses National Security
Letters, and Section 804 that Addresses Jurisdiction over
Crimes Committed at U.S. Facilities Abroad: Chuck Rosenberg,
Chief of Staff to the Deputy Attorney General of the
Department of Justice (Majority witness); Matthew Berry,
Counselor to the Assistant Attorney General of the Department
of Justice (Majority witness); Gregory Nojeim, Acting
Director of the Washington Legislative Office of the American
Civil Liberties Union (Minority witness); and Shayana
Kadidal, Staff Attorney, Center for Constitutional Rights
(Minority witness).
May 10, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing on the Prohibition of
Material Support to Terrorists and Foreign Terrorist
Organizations and on the DOJ Inspector General's report on
Civil Liberty Violations under the USA PATRIOT Act: Honorable
Glenn Fine, Inspector General of the Department of Justice
(Majority witness); Honorable Gregory G. Katsas, Deputy
Assistant Attorney General, Civil Division of the Department
of Justice (Majority witness); Barry Sabin, Chief of the
Counterterrorism Section of the Criminal Division of the
Department of Justice (Majority witness); and Ahilan
Arulanantham, Staff Attorney for the American Civil Liberties
Union of Southern California (Minority witness).
May 5, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing on Section 212 of the USA
PATRIOT Act that Allows Emergency Disclosure of Electronic
Communications to Protect Life and Limb: Honorable William
Moschella, Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legislative
Affairs, U.S. Department of Justice (Majority witness);
Willie Hulon, Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism
Division, Federal Bureau of Investigation (Majority witness);
Professor Orrin Kerr, Professor of Law at the George
Washington University Law School (Majority witness); and
James X. Dempsey, Executive Director of the Center for
Democracy and Technology (Minority witness).
May 3, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing on Sections 201, 202, 213,
and 223 of the USA PATRIOT Act and Their Effect on Law
Enforcement Surveillance: Honorable Michael J. Sullivan, U.S.
Attorney for the District of Massachusetts (Majority
witness); Chuck Rosenberg, Chief of Staff to the Deputy
Attorney General (Majority witness); Heather Mac Donald, John
M. Olin fellow at the Manhattan Institute (Majority witness);
and the Honorable Bob Barr, former Representative of
Georgia's Seventh District (Minority witness).
April 28, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing--Section 218 of the USA
PATRIOT Act--If it Expires will the ``Wall'' Return?:
Honorable Patrick Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for the Northern
District of lllinois (Majority witness); David Kris, former
Associate Deputy Attorney General for the Department of
Justice (Majority witness); Kate Martin, Director of the
Center for National Security Studies (Minority witness); and
Peter Swire, Professor of Law at Ohio State University
(Minority witness).
April 28, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing--Have sections 206 and 215
improved FISA Investigations? (Part II): Honorable Kenneth L.
Wainstein, U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia
(Majority witness); James Baker, Office for Intelligence
Policy and Review, U.S. Department of Justice (Majority
witness); Robert Khuzami, former Assistant United States
Attorney in the United States Attorney's Office for the
Southern District of New York (Majority witness); and Greg
Nojeim, the Associate Director and Chief Legislative Counsel
of the American Civil Liberties Union's Washington National
Office (Minority witness).
April 26, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing--Have sections 204, 207, 214
and 225 of the USA PATRIOT Act. and Sections 6001 and 6002 of
the Intellience Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004,
improved FISA Investigations? (Part I): Honorable Mary Beth
Buchanan, United States Attorney for the Western District of
Pennsylvania (Majority witness); James Baker, Office for
Intelligence Policy and Review, U.S. Department of Justice
(Majority witness); and Suzanne Spaulding, Managing Director,
the Harbour Group, LLC (Minority witness).
April 21, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing on Crime, Terrorism, and the
Age of Technology--Section 209: Seizure of Voice-Mail
Messages Pursuant to Warrants; Section 217: Interception of
Computer Trespasser Communications: and Section 220:
Nationwide Service of Search Warrants for
Electronic Evidence: Laura Parsky, Deputy Assistant Attorney
General of the Criminal Division, U.S. Department of Justice
(Majority witness); Steven M. Martinez, Deputy Assistant
Director of the Cyber Division, Federal Bureau of
Investigation (Majority witness); James X. Dempsey, Executive
Director of the Center for Democracy and Technology (Majority
witness as a favor to Minority); and Peter Swire, Professor
of Law, Mortiz College of Law, the Ohio State University
(Minority witness).
April 19, 2005: Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security
Subcommittee--Oversight Hearing on Sections 203 (b) and (d)
of the USA PATRIOT Act and their Effect on Information
Sharing: Barry Sabin, Chief of the Counterterrorism Section
of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice
(Majority witness); Maureen Baginski, Executive Assistant
Director of FBI Intelligence (Majority witness); Congressman
Michael McCaul (Majority witness); and Timothy Edgar, the
National Security Policy Counsel for American Civil Liberties
Union (Minority witness).
Witnesses (alphabetical)
1. Arulanantham, Ahilan T.--Staff Attorney, American Civil
Liberties Union
2. Baker, James A.--Counsel for Intelligence Policy,
Department of Justice *testified twice
3. Baginski, Maureen--Executive Assistant Director for the
Office of Intelligence, Federal Bureau of Investigation
4. Barr, Bob--Former Member of Congress, Atlanta, Georgia
5. Berry, Matthew--Counselor to the Assistant Attorney
General, United States Department of Justice
6. Buchanan, Mary Beth--United States Attorney, Western
District of Pennsylvania
7. Comey, James B.--Deputy Attorney General, United States
Department of Justice
8. Dempsey, Jim--Executive Director, Center for Democracy
and Technology *testified twice
9. Edgar, Timothy--National Security Policy Counsel,
American Civil Liberties Union
10. Fine, Glenn A.--Inspector General, United States
Department of Justice
11. Fitzgerald, Patrick--U.S. Attorney, Northern District
of Illinois
12. Gonzales, Alberto--Attorney General of the United
States
13. Hulon, Willie T.--Assistant Director of
Counterterrorism Division, Federal Bureau of Investigation
14. Kadidal, Shayana--Staff Attorney, Center for
Constitutional Rights
15. Katsas, Gregory--Deputy Assistant Attorney General,
United States Department of Justice
16. Kerr, Orin S.--Associate Professor of Law, The George
Washington University
17. Khuzami, Robert S.--Former Assistant U.S. Attorney,
Southern District of New York
18. Kris, David--Vice President for Corporate Compliance,
Time Warner Corporation
19. Mac Donald, Heather--John M. Olin Fellow, The Manhattan
Institute
20. Martin, Kate--Director, Center for National Security
Studies
21. Martinez, Steven M.--Deputy Assistant Director of Cyber
Division, Federal Bureau of Investigation
22. McCaul, Michael--U.S. Representative & former Chief of
Counterterrorism and National Security for the U.S.
Attorney's Office in Western Judicial District of Texas
23. Moschella, William--Assistant Attorney General, United
States Department of Justice
24. Nojeim, Gregory T.--Associate Director/Chief
Legisaltive Counsel, American Civil Liberties Union
*testified twice
25. Parsky, Laura H.--Deputy Assistant Attorney General,
Department of Justice
26. Pearlstein, Deborah--Director, U.S. Law and Security
Program
27. Pitts, Chip--Chair of the Board, Amnesty International
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1\1/2\ minutes.
Mr. Chairman, we have heard another attack on delayed notification or sneak-and-peek warrants. Let me tell you what has happened earlier this month. A U.S. district judge in Washington State executed or authorized a delayed-notification warrant to look into a building on the U.S. side of the northern border. And what was discovered but a rather sophisticated tunnel between Canada and the United States to smuggle contraband, and perhaps terrorists, through the border and into this country without being detected by our border patrol.
Using a delayed-notice search warrant, the DEA and other agents entered the home on July 2 to examine the tunnel. Shortly thereafter, a U.S. district judge authorized the installation of cameras and listening devices in the home to monitor the activities in the home.
Using these twice, Federal, State and local law enforcement officials observed multiple trips by three defendants through the tunnel carrying large hockey bags or garbage bags. These bags were loaded into a van on the U.S. side and driven south for delivery.
Ninety-three pounds of marijuana were found in these bags when the Washington State Patrol stopped the car. That never would have happened without a delayed-notification warrant. And if they can bring 93 pounds of marijuana in, they can bring terrorists in as well.
These warrants are good. They protect us. They ought to be kept.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
After listening to the speech of the distinguished minority leader, I have reached the conclusion she has not read the bill. She has not looked at the oversight that the Committee on the Judiciary has done over the last 3\1/2\ years.
We have an oversight record of bipartisan letters sent to the Justice Department, Inspector General's reports, and hearings that have a stack of paper that is about 2 feet high. In this bill we have had 12 hearings with 35 witnesses, people who have come from all over the spectrum; and 13 of the 16 sections of the PATRIOT Act that are sunsetted are not controversial. The three controversial sections, two of them are sunsetted; the third one, as a result of some of the testimony, has been amended, and that is the delayed notification warrants.
The fact of the matter remains that no federal court has found that any of the 16 sunsetted sections are unconstitutional, and the Inspector General, who is required by the PATRIOT Act itself to report to the Congress twice a year, has not found any civil liberties violations.
Let us stick to the facts. Let us stick to the result of the oversight. Let us stop the hyperbole. And let us stop the scare tactics that seem to surround the debate of those who are opposed to this law for whatever purpose.
Mr. Chairman, I believe this amendment is a good one because it centralizes responsibility in the hands of the Director of the FBI in signing off on 215 applications for bookstore and library records.
But in the context of the overall debate, what I think is missing from this debate is not whether there is a potential for abuse by the Justice Department, but whether there is an actual record of abuse. And there has been no record of abuse by the Justice Department with bookstores and libraries. They have publicly responded repeatedly that they have not used the 215 order to look at the records of people checking out books or buying books at either bookstores or libraries.
Now, what this bill does is it makes an improvement to the law where there is a specific method of contesting a 215 order by the recipient. But to say that all of these records should be exempt from law enforcement scrutiny is to turn our bookstores and libraries into a sanctuary. We cannot allow that to happen.
I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of his amendment. And let me say first that the amendment that was made by the PATRIOT Act to allow a Federal judge, and only a Federal judge, to authorize a roving wiretap simply brought the law up to where the technology has gone because before the PATRIOT Act was passed you could not get an effective wiretap order on a cell phone. So the terrorists and the drug smugglers and the racketeers simply conducted their business on cell phones because you could not determine whether or not the cell phone was actually being used within the district in which the Federal court that issued the roving wiretap order sat.
So by passing the PATRIOT Act we were able to get the Justice Department the authority to ask a Federal judge to give a wiretap order against the cell phone or any communications device that might be used by the target. And that gets around the disposable cell phone issue.
The Issa amendment merely states that the judge has to be notified at the earliest reasonable time, but no later than 15 days after a roving wiretap order directs surveillance at a location not known at the time when the wiretap order was issued. And this increases judicial supervision and accountability and protects the civil liberties of the American people.
Now, earlier today both the minority leader and her deputy, the minority whip, were talking about the fact that there has been no oversight done by the Judiciary Committee over the PATRIOT Act. That, frankly, insults what both Democrats and Republicans have done on oversight of the PATRIOT Act on a bipartisan basis. Right here is the result of the oversight that the Judiciary Committee has done in the last 3\1/2\ years on this law. This is a stack of paper that is almost 2 feet high. I doubt that any other committee of Congress has done as much oversight on a single law as my committee has done on the PATRIOT Act.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentlewoman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to support the gentlewoman's amendment and believe that it is an important consolidation in the criminal law relative to attacks against mass transportation systems.
First, we should not have different crimes and different penalties depending upon which type of mass transportation system is attacked. We should have uniform penalties and uniform definitions of criminal activity so someone who attacks a railroad will get the same penalty as someone would in a similar attack against a subway system or a bus or an airplane.
Secondly, I think we have to broaden the definition of what is ``attacked'' to make sure that attacks against support systems for mass transportation systems are treated the same way as an attack against the transportation system itself. We should not have a lesser penalty if you put a bomb in the station than if you blow up a train while it is crossing a bridge over a big gorge.
And I also think we ought to ensure that terrorists who attack these systems are punished with appropriate severity. The gentlewoman's amendment does all of these things, and I would urge its support and unanimous adoption by the House.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me, and, Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake).
One of the things that the bill did in section 215 was to provide a procedure for challenging a section 215 order. What this does is it codifies procedures for challenging the receipt of national security letters, and I think that this is a step in the right direction.
Let me say that a national security letter is never issued to the target of an investigation. A place where it would be issued would be to get records that are in the custody of someone who may have information relative to the target of the investigation. For example, it appears that one of the people who was involved in the London bombing 2 weeks ago studied at the University of North Carolina. To get the records of this person's attendance at the University of North Carolina would be a subject of a national security letter. Now, I do not know whether one has been issued or one has not been, but that is an example of the type of information that the NSLs are used for.
This is a good amendment, Mr. Chairman, and I support it.