Providing For Consideration Of House Resolution 38, Reducing Non- Security Spending To Fiscal Year 2008 Levels Or Less
Mr. Speaker, I was unclear in my own mind which was worse, the terrible procedural abuse of this resolution or the serious substantive flaw, but I then realize they come together because it is procedurally outrageous so as to protect a…
Mr. Speaker, I was unclear in my own mind which was worse, the terrible procedural abuse of this resolution or the serious substantive flaw, but I then realize they come together because it is procedurally outrageous so as to protect a substantive grave error.
First of all, it is a major piece of legislation, and it's not amendable, just like the health care bill. You may remember, Mr. Speaker, what people on the Republican side said about open rules. It will be a fond memory but apparently not a reality.
We have a very important piece of legislation subject to no amendment. I chaired a committee for 4 years and never would I have brought a bill to the floor with such an impact and had no amendments in order whatsoever. But I understand why they don't want an amendment, because it would reveal the grave flaw. This says reduce non-security spending to the level of 2008. In other words, exempt about half of discretionary spending. All security, I assume they mean military spending.
Now we have a war and we have to defend the people who we put out there. I have to say those who talk about shutting the government down--I don't know what they are going to tell the people in Afghanistan who are out there being shot at--but we have got tens of billions that we are spending subsidizing our wealthy allies in Europe and Asia.
The argument that you exempt military spending from budgetary discipline is one of the reasons we are in the terrible hole we are in. Now it is clearly indefensible to argue that you would exempt military spending from budget discipline. So how do you defend it? You defend it by not allowing an amendment that would bring it forward.
Why, Mr. Speaker, are we not able to say, well, not just non-security and maybe non-security shouldn't go down to the level of 2008, but it ought to go down somewhat or ought to be limited somewhat. This is part of a philosophy that puts pressure on all of the domestic spending, everything that affects the quality of life in America.
Now by ``security,'' by the way, I mean police officers in the streets of the cities I represent and firefighters and bridges that won't collapse. But that's not security as it's defined by the Republicans. That's the kind of spending that will be severely cut.
Instead, we have a total exemption for the Pentagon. We have Mr. Gates, a Bush appointee, kept on wisely by Mr. Obama, saying it's time to start to reduce the military. The Republicans have attacked him for that.
So let's be very clear. There cannot be a sensible, comprehensive, balanced approach to deficit reduction when you follow this philosophy, not only totally exempt the military, but don't even allow an amendment that would make it something that you could talk about.
The notion that you give all this power to one person is also very interesting. I guess what we are learning is, then, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Ryan) has been somewhat more courageous than some others in what he has talked about. I disagree with him.
So apparently what we are learning today is that the Republican Party has the courage of Paul Ryan's convictions. I wish they had the courage to let us debate whether or not military spending should be included.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
I'm a little puzzled. You said no amendments were submitted, but Mr. McGovern did ask for one on behalf of Mr. Van Hollen. Why did that not qualify?
Will the gentleman yield to me?
First of all, I think the Record will show the gentleman has just amended his statement about amendments because he said no amendments were offered, then he later said--and I would ask people to look at the Record tomorrow. He then said, Oh, an amendment was offered. His first statement was no amendments were offered----
Will the gentleman yield to me?
First, I want to address this notion that police officers in our local streets pale in significance to the military. We have troops in Western Europe where our Western European allies are cutting their military budgets. And yes, I do think that funding police officers and firefighters in our cities is more important than allowing Germany and England and our European allies to reduce their military budgets because we subsidize them.
Secondly, I will say to the gentleman from California that I am somewhat disappointed. He did say there were no amendments offered. We have now just heard three were offered. If he meant that there were none on paper previously submitted, maybe he should have said that, because it would have been of real great relevance. The fact is amendments were offered, and they were rejected.
No. The gentleman wouldn't yield to me at the end when he----
Regular order.
The gentleman from California wasn't happy with what he said. He didn't want to continue the debate; so I won't continue it either.
I would just urge people to read the Record tomorrow. Read his statement that no amendments were offered and read what the gentleman from Massachusetts said and see where the truth lies.