Mr. Speaker, I would ask my friend if he would yield to a question, because I am looking here at the motion that he has, and it basically refers to the majority's bill and instructs them, according to their bill, and it is within our…
Mr. Speaker, I would ask my friend if he would yield to a question, because I am looking here at the motion that he has, and it basically refers to the majority's bill and instructs them, according to their bill, and it is within our jurisdiction to do that. And it gives them the jurisdiction to follow up, does it not?
Taking back my time, Mr. Speaker, you see, we have a right as a Nation to defend ourselves, but we do not have any right to shred the Constitution or to nullify the role
that Congress has as a coequal branch of government or to nullify the right we have to give motions to instruct. We have an absolute right to do that.
Now, this all goes back to 9/11, where all the fear has been created; and we have people now more concerned about leaks and more concerned about open discussion exposing secret prisons than they are in exposing those prisons. People want to deny congressional oversight and deny the power of coequality.
I mean, the facts are that there is a real body of evidence suggesting that secret prisons do exist; that there has been rendition; that people have been basically taken off the streets, moved to countries that use torture, and violations of human rights. I mean, what is happening to our country?
Let us look at our Constitution. We have habeas corpus, people have a right to be told what crime they have committed, they have a right to an attorney and to a fair and speedy trial. Now, why do we have those things? Because in America we stand for something.
So we are, in effect, permitting the shredding of our Constitution. The violation of international law. What has become of our Nation when we do not challenge that or at least have the opportunity to support Mr. Skeleton's motion to instruct, which is our right to do, to go along with what has already been approved in the Senate, and to say, look, we think that there ought to be a role for the Director of National Intelligence to give a report to the Intelligence Committee setting forth the nature and cost and otherwise providing a full accounting on any clandestine prison or detention facility currently or formerly operated by the United States Government regardless of location.
Look, let us remember what we stand for as a Nation. We are losing sight of that here. We are becoming something that could be called in another era un-American. Let us stand for our American values here and support the Skeleton motion.
Mr. Speaker, I wish to insert for the Record the following articles relating to my comments:
[From the Free Republic, June 6, 2005]
U.S. Running `Archipelago' of Secret Prisons: Amnesty International
Washington.--The U.S. government is operating an
``archipelago'' of prisons around the world, many of them
secret camps into which people are being ``literally
disappeared,'' a top Amnesty International official said
Sunday.
Amnesty International executive director William Schulz
criticized the administration of U.S. President George W.
Bush for holding alleged battlefield combatants in
``indefinite incommunicado detention'' without access to
lawyers in an interview with Fox News Sunday.
Schulz was pressed to substantiate Amnesty's claim in a May
25 report that the U.S. prison camp at the Guantanamo Bay,
Cuba naval base--where hundreds of foreign terror suspects
are being held indefinitely--represents the ``gulag of our
times.''
The gulag claim, referring to the notorious prison camp
system of the Soviet Union, has drawn withering criticism
from the U.S. president, who called it ``absurd.'' Vice
President Richard Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald
Rumsfeld have also slammed the rights group's claim.
Russian 1970 Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
described the Soviet prison camp system in his best-selling
book ``The Gulag Archipelago.''
Schulz said the gulag reference was not ``an exact or a
literal analogy.''
``But there are some similarities. The United States is
maintaining an archipelago of prisons around the world, many
of them secret prisons into which people are being literally
disappeared--held in indefinite incommunicado detention
without access to lawyers,'' Schulz told Fox.
Asked how AI could compare the detentions of millions of
Soviet citizens in the gulag system to purported anti-U.S.
combatants captured on the battlefield, Schulz said some of
those held in Guantanamo ``happened to be in the wrong place
at the wrong time.
``We do know that at least some of the 200 some prisoners
who have been released from Guantanamo Bay have made pretty
persuasive cases that they were imprisoned there, not because
they were involved in military conflict but simply because
they were enemies of the Northern Alliance,'' he said.
Schulz called for an official probe into the alleged rights
abuses at U.S. detention centers around the globe.
Amnesty refers in the May 25 report to Rumsfeld and U.S.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales as alleged ``torture
architects.''
The United States ``should be the one that should
investigate those who are alleged at least to be architects
of torture, not just the foot soldiers who may have inflicted
the torture directly, but those who authorized it or
encouraged it or provided rationales for it,'' Schulz said.
According to Amnesty, Rumsfeld provided ``the exact rules,
27 of them in fact, for interrogations, some of which do
constitute torture or cruel, inhumane treatment,'' Schulz
said.
The Guantanamo Bay camp and U.S. detention practices have
been the subject of renewed debate in recent weeks, sparked
by a Newsweek magazine report--since retracted--that
Guantanamo interrogators flushed a Koran in a toilet to
rattle Muslim prisoners.
Amnesty is not the only rights group to have called on
Washington to investigate alleged abuses at the camp--Schulz
pointed to released FBI documents that also raised concerns
about Guantanamo interrogations.
U.S. officials insist such concerns are unfounded, and that
the ``war on terror'' detainees are treated as humanely as
possible.
U.S. soldiers have been tried and punished for abusing
detainees--notably at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, where at
least one captive died--but U.S. officials say those are
isolated incidents.
The furor sparked by Amnesty's claims shows no signs of
abating.
The New York Times said Sunday that the Guantanamo Bay
prison should be closed down, saying it had become ``a
national shame'' and a ``propaganda gift to America's
enemies.''
``What makes Amnesty's gulag metaphor apt is that
Guantanamo is merely one of a chain of shadowy detention
camps that also includes Abu Ghraib in Iraq, the military
prison at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan and other, secret
locations run by the intelligence agencies,'' the Times said.
The Washington Post, whose editorial page has been more
critical of Amnesty's gulag claim, reported Sunday--citing
Schulz--that Amnesty's donations have quintupled and new
memberships have doubled in the past week since it released
its report. (Wire reports)