I thank the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee. Mr. President, shortly the Senate will vote on whether to confirm Michael Mukasey as the next Attorney General or whether to leave the Department of Justice without a real leader for…
I thank the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee.
Mr. President, shortly the Senate will vote on whether to confirm Michael Mukasey as the next Attorney General or whether to leave the Department of Justice without a real leader for the next 14 months.
I believe that is the issue. I will vote to confirm Judge Mukasey.
For me, the Department of Justice has always been the beacon of law enforcement and justice around the world. I have always truly believed we had a state-of-the-art system of justice that functioned independently of whoever happened to hold the White House or whoever was in the Congress. This beacon has been dimmed in the last 7 years, and I am one who finds the Department in disarray today.
I think the real issue before us today is: Can this nominee be a strong and independent leader of the Justice Department in the remaining time of this administration? Can he depoliticize the Department? Can he restore its morale? Will he be independent from the White House?
If your answer is yes, then I believe we should vote for him. If it is no, then you don't mind an Acting Attorney General for the next 14 months.
Ten of the most important positions in the Department today have no permanent person serving but are either acting or interim. Mr. President, 21 out of 93 U.S. Attorney positions are vacant, and only two nominees are pending before the Senate for confirmation.
Cases have been brought based on partisan considerations instead of the facts and the law. U.S. Attorneys who did not initiate partisan prosecutions were summarily fired. The Civil Rights Division has been weakened and politicized.
Judge Mukasey has shown he will be a strong and independent Attorney General.
He couldn't be any more different from Alberto Gonzales. Alberto Gonzales owed his political career, and his legal career to a great extent, to President Bush. Judge Mukasey does not. He has followed an independent path. And he has been, for 18 years, a Federal district court judge--yes, following the rule of law, not the rule of man. He has stood on his own, he has litigated on his own, he has judged on his own.
Judge Mukasey, in my view, is going to be a very different Attorney General. And it is hard for me to understand why everyone in this body doesn't come to the same conclusion just by judging his background against the background of the prior Attorney General. That is very hard for me to understand. Their backgrounds--their legal backgrounds, their service backgrounds--are so entirely different.
If you read the 178 pages of answers to questions that were submitted by Senators, some as many as 30, 35 questions, you see the independence of Judge Mukasey. In response to question 20 by Senator Kennedy, Judge Mukasey said this:
There can be no political litmus test for the hiring of
career civil service employees. This is, and must be, a
bedrock principle.
He added that he would have ``zero tolerance'' in this area.
Isn't that what we want?
On the issue of politically motivated prosecutions, which, as I have said, I believe there have been by this department, he said, in the transcript, dated 10/17/07, page 19:
Partisan politics plays no part in either the bringing of
charges or the timing of charges.
And in response to question 20(a) by Senator Durbin he also said he would recommend the firing of any U.S. Attorney who brought or planned to bring a case for partisan gain.
Isn't that what we want?
With regard to election crime prosecutions, he wrote this:
The closer to an election, the higher the standard that
must be met for charges to be brought.
That was in response to question no. 18 from Senator Kennedy.
In addition, Judge Mukasey made it clear he will work to fix the many problems that have arisen in the Department's Civil Rights Division. He wrote this to us:
The Civil Rights Division occupies a crucial place in the
Department precisely because it continues to carry out the
work of the civil rights movement by enforcing the Nation's
civil rights laws. I strongly support the mission of the
Civil Rights Division and will ensure that it has the tools
and resources it needs to fulfill its mandate.
This was in answer to a question submitted by Senator Leahy.
I think these answers alone show it is not going to be business as usual in the Department of Justice.
Isn't that what we want?
Now, the President has said publicly he will not send another nominee to the Senate. So what does that mean? It means if we don't confirm this nominee, we will effectively have an Acting Attorney General for the remaining 14 months of this President's tenure.
And what does that mean? It could likely mean that Peter Keisler, who has been an architect of Bush administration policies at DOJ for more than 5 years, will remain as Acting Attorney General for the rest of this administration.
Is that what we want?
It means most likely there will be recess appointments this winter for the 10 major leadership positions in the Department.
And what does that mean? Simply stated: The administration could put in place the most egregious and political leadership, and we--the Senate--could do nothing about it. We would have reduced transparency and reduced congressional oversight.
Now this is the realpolitik. This is the likelihood, should Judge Mukasey fail confirmation.
I believe it is the fundamental and driving factor for confirmation of this nominee. Not to confirm him will leave this vital department open to a continuation of egregious past actions, and we have railed against those past actions for years now. We have a chance to make a change.
We don't select the nominee, the President selects the nominee.
Does he have failed character? No. Does he lack in experience? No. Does he have the temperament to be Attorney General? He has proven it with 18 years as a Federal judge.
Does he know one of the most important areas of the law--national security law? He has tried some of the major terrorist cases that have been tried in Article III courts in the United States of America, and defendants have gone to prison.
Now, I have seen people pound their breasts here on torture. And none of us want torture.
There is a difference between U.S. law and treaty law. We have passed certain U.S. laws. We have passed a Military Commissions Act. That is a law of the United States of America. We have passed the Detainee Treatment Act. That is a law of the United States of America. The Detainee Treatment Act prohibits waterboarding for any military personnel anywhere in the world.
So, to the opponents of this nomination: We have passed a law. They say it is not necessary to pass a law, but in fact we have passed a law prohibiting waterboarding. And Judge Mukasey has said the Detainee Treatment Act is binding on the President and binding on this country.
The one exception is, there is no U.S. law that deals with the CIA. That is the exception. There are prestigious human rights groups that say it
doesn't matter; the Geneva Conventions and the Conventions Against Torture prevail. The President is saying I have Article II authority, and AUMF authority, and my view of Presidential power.
So what will solve it? A constitutional confrontation? The Supreme Court? What solves it?
My belief is, it is so easy: Instead of pounding our chests, simply do what we did in the Detainee Treatment Act, but do it for the CIA and prohibit waterboarding. End of debate.
Some people want to keep the issue alive rather than solve the problem. I am not one of those people. I believe we should end the ambiguity, and simply prohibit waterboarding across the board.
I do not believe Judge Mukasey should be denied confirmation for failing to provide an absolute answer on this one subject.
Nobody should think anything else is happening tonight. He would be denied confirmation because he said, I would like an opportunity to look at these laws, to look at these treaties, to read the legal opinions that have been written, and then have time to make up my mind.
Maybe we will want people to snap to and issue immediate judgments. This man has been a judge for 18 years. Maybe he likes to consider the facts before he makes a decision. I don't think that should be disqualifying.
We can bring him before the Judiciary Committee in late January and simply say: Judge Mukasey, now-Attorney General Mukasey, you have had an opportunity to look at the law. What is your opinion?
At the same time, I can say to you quite honestly, I believe waterboarding is illegal. I don't think it should be countenanced by the United States of America. I am not a lawyer, and I have not been for 18 years--or even 1 year--a Federal judge.
I believe waterboarding is prohibited under the Convention Against Torture and the Geneva Conventions. But it is not prohibited by name. It is prohibited in terms of its effects. There is a certain grayness for some--for some.
The opponents of this nomination have not given us any reason to think an acting or interim Attorney General would give us a better answer about waterboarding.
As a matter of fact, I would hazard a guess they would not. I would hazard a guess that if this nominee goes down, the exact same policies that have characterized the last 7 years will continue for the next 14 months. Am I being too abrupt to suggest we are missing something, that we should not get overwhelmed by the pounding of the chest against torture--that this is our chance for change?
If Judge Mukasey were not a respected judge, if he didn't have the legal background, if he didn't have the streak of independence--and read 178 pages of questions and answers and you will see that streak of independence--I would tend to agree with some of what has been said here. But I do not, because I seriously believe this is the only chance this Senate is going to be offered to put new leadership in the Department of Justice.
If, in fact, you believe it is in disarray, then there is only one action to take. If you believe it has been politicized, there is only one action to take.
The former Attorney General has not been independent, and he said he wore two hats--one serving the White House and one serving the people. If you believe there is only one hat an Attorney General can wear, and that is serving the people, then you have no choice other than Judge Mukasey. That is because otherwise, there will be an Acting Attorney General, not subject to confirmation, not subject to questioning, not subject to any kind of oversight--but, again, an arm of the White House.
Most of the major newspapers in my State have editorialized in favor of Judge Mukasey. This is what the San Diego Union-Tribune had to say about him:
Torture is antithetical to American values. President Bush
ought to issue an Executive order explicitly outlawing
waterboarding. That said, Mukasey is not to blame for the
Bush administration's interrogation policies. In his
confirmation hearings, he has demonstrated a firm commitment
to defend the Constitution. He merits confirmation by the
Senate.
They got it.
The Detroit Free Press had this to say:
As Attorney General, Mukasey can be expected to fight hard
for what's legal rather than what's expedient.
Don't we want that?
At least that's a step toward restoring the rule of law in
the last 14 months of the Bush administration. The full
Senate should confirm Mukasey, lest the president's next pick
be someone with a more malleable sense of right and wrong.
Then, a paper from my State, The Sacramento Bee, got it right:
As a replacement for Alberto Gonzales, Michael Mukasey, the
nominee for U.S. attorney general, would bring a restorative
independence of mind to the job. . . . Mukasey appears likely
to operate in the open and with a higher respect for the
system of the U.S. Government than for personal ties.
A critical question.
We would expect him to urge the president to work with
Congress. The Senate should confirm Mukasey to begin the
cleanup at Justice.
This is the only chance we have. It is not as if we can turn him down and the administration is going to send us another nominee. They have already said they will not.
I do not believe that voting down this nominee will do even a bit of good in preventing torture. No one has explained why more of the same at the Justice Department would be better than putting Judge Mukasey in charge.
I do believe he will be a truly nonpolitical, nonpartisan Attorney General; that he will make his views very clear; and that, once he has the opportunity to do the evaluation he believes he needs on waterboarding, he will be willing to come before the Judiciary Committee and express his views comprehensively and definitively.
In conclusion, this nominee had no part in the administration's policies or legal opinions with respect to torture. We should not blame him for them. How can this man be the standard-bearer for torture? He is not. Why is he being treated as such?
We should give this nominee an opportunity to look at these treaties, look at the laws, read the opinions, and we should do what we are here to do--legislate and prohibit waterboarding across the board.
I thank the ranking member.
I yield the floor.