Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the pending amendments be set aside. Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk and ask for its…
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the pending amendments be set aside.
Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, the amendment I offer today is something I believe is urgently needed because of security concerns raised constantly these days, particularly as a result of a recent indictment we are all aware of. The amendment is relatively simple, straightforward. It clarifies part of the intelligence law to be clear that those who compromise classified information cannot hold a clearance. The indictment describes conduct by a White House official that must not be tolerated. Certainly, an irresponsible and reckless official should not be allowed to continue to hold a clearance to see top-secret information.
The person at issue is identified in the recent indictment I spoke of earlier as ``Official A.'' According to the Washington Post, White House staff have confirmed that Official A is Mr. Karl Rove. He is the deputy chief of staff to the President. The indictment says this official gave classified information to a journalist. Any official who does such a thing should certainly not continue to hold a clearance.
It is quite clear what President Bush's intent was when he said he wanted to clear the air about any leakage of classified information. I think we should follow his pledge or remind him of his pledge to remove anyone involved with leaking information. We know the information given to the journalist Robert Novak was, indeed, published, and a CIA operative was exposed.
The actions taken by the White House staff have damaged our national security. Thusly, an indictment has come about. It has destroyed an operative's covert cover, compromised intelligence-gathering operations, and endangered the safety of other CIA employees and their contacts.
The amendment I offer today is similar to one that was offered earlier in the year by Senator Reid in July. My amendment has one significant difference. It includes the words a ``knowing'' standard so that someone who unknowingly does it doesn't get included in our amendment. We wanted to narrow the field and say, if you talk about these things and know it, you ought to pay for it. The payment is fairly simple. My Republican colleagues reacted to the Reid amendment by talking about it as an open-ended standard. In deference to the concerns of our colleagues on the other side, I have added
a ``knowing'' standard--in other words, if you don't know it, then that is one thing; if you do know it, it is quite something else--which is more than fair to someone who reveals our national security secrets.
I see my colleague and friend from Virginia on the other side. I am reminded when both of us wore a uniform some years ago, it was ``loose lips sink ships.'' The lights were darkened all along the coast. You couldn't even tell your family where you were at the time. As a matter of fact, I was in an area in Belgium that was quite dangerous. I did find a place that sold a postcard that was written in the language of the area. It was Flemish. I sent it to my mother to give her an indication where I was. I kind of had to sneak by the censors.
We are at war. People are at war with us. Terrorists are liable to attack us at any time. They are certainly doing what they can to even injure or kill our service people who are abroad. We ought to make sure we are as diligent about covering our security as we can be. We should ask nothing less than total obedience to the rules. I am here with the consent and support of Senator Reid of Nevada, Senator Levin, and others who believe we should do this. I hope my colleagues across the aisle can agree that if somebody gives information they shouldn't, by golly, what we are saying is the penalty is that you should lose that security clearance and that person should be treated as the President suggests, removed from the security scene.
It is plain common sense. I urge my colleagues to support the amendment.
I yield the floor.
Yes, the Senator is correct. And what we say is, if you do it, the least that ought to happen is you ought to learn enough of a lesson that we are going to remove any access to classified information if you do it knowingly.
Right.
We tried our best to clarify it and remove the concern that was exhibited when Senator Reid offered it last July. This was added because colleagues on the other side made an observation that was sensible; that is, if someone does something unknowingly, you can't punish them. But on the other hand, if someone has a job that includes security, I would have to say they would know this is a violation to betray any of the rules they are subjected to. But this clarifies it. There is no intention here to pull the wool over anybody's eyes or anything such as that. It is to make sure we prevent any leakage as much as we can of security information. We are so sensitized to it that the country is at times locked up in concerns with these warnings being given out, and we ought to try to restrict that from happening as much as possible.
It can be careless. The Senator can well remember the time, a very unfortunate time, when an informant, someone working with the CIA in Latin America--Guatemala, I believe it was--was assassinated after their identity was revealed. We don't want that to happen. We have our friends and relatives overseas now.
Certainly.
I think current law describes that. We will use that as the standard. Again, there is no intention here to bypass the rules. It is to confirm clearly that if you talk about this, we are not saying you go to jail. We are not saying anything else. But you certainly should no longer have access to classified information.
Yes. We will certainly try to do that.
I thank the Senator. I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I want to amend my amendment, No. 2478, which I introduced earlier, to include another paragraph to clarify exactly what we mean. I listened to recommendations that we use other language that again further clarifies the intent here.
The intent, very simply, is to say if someone violates the rules for transferring classified information knowingly, then we think they should lose that opportunity for access to that.
That was the sole purpose. I offer it.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to second- degree my amendment. I send it to the desk for consideration.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.