Mr. Speaker, it's such a privilege to stand in the well of the House of Representatives. Each time I stand here, I just shiver and shake and think about just how I got here and the unusual circumstances that have allowed me to be here.…
Mr. Speaker, it's such a privilege to stand in the well of the House of Representatives.
Each time I stand here, I just shiver and shake and think about just how I got here and the unusual circumstances that have allowed me to be here. Really coming from a very poor background, parents who had very, very meager means. But it was because of an educational opportunity that I'm able to be here with you and to speak with you here this evening.
You've heard it all from the well of the House of Representatives, Mr. Speaker. You've heard about all of the problems that we have in our economy. And this evening I want to talk to you about the importance of reestablishing ourselves in the world as a nation that is graduating students from college and producing the next generation of innovators and engineers and doctors and scientists and teachers so that we can reestablish ourselves in the world and continue to enable our economy to grow. But, of course, you've heard about all of the problems that sort of crowd out a really important discussion about the importance of funding educational opportunity.
You've heard about the two wars and the escalation, which is going to cost us $30 billion. You've heard about the war spending. Between 2001 until 2009, we've spent just under $950 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan, and we've just included another $139 billion for both wars. In July, the DOD was spending $11 billion a month on both wars. And CRS projects that we're going to be spending another $400 billion to $900 billion in the next 10 years.
You've heard about the entitlement programs, Medicare and Social Security, and how they're in danger and how we have to fund that. You've heard about the escalating health care costs consuming 20 cents of every consumer dollar in the so-called takeover by the government of health care. You've heard about the great recession where as many as 700,000 jobs were lost in a single month in the last 15 months. You've heard about the financial systemic risk that threatens the economy not only of the United States of America but of the world, requiring countries, including this one, to develop billions of dollars in stimulus funding. You've heard about various proposals to right ourselves and to justify our economy. You've heard proposals to just simply reduce spending. You've heard proposals to give tax breaks to the wealthy and that these tax breaks will somehow trickle down to support those workers and small businesses. And you've even heard whispers of raising taxes. And very few people raise as a solution to this problem at looking hard at what we're doing in terms of
advancing post-secondary educational opportunity.
That's why this evening, Mr. Speaker, I'm so happy to be joined by my dear friend and colleague from Virginia, Representative Bobby Scott, who serves on the Labor and Education Committee and I'm sure will give us some valuable information about the importance of preparing the next generation of students.
Reclaiming my time, I guess what I'm recalling is a country where, I mean, we invented the telephone. We invented the automobile, the television, the camera, Google, iPod. We've made major medical breakthroughs. We discovered the cure. We discovered Penicillin and practically eradicated polio by developing the vaccine. And we've done this because we have been number one in the world for developing a brain trust.
So I guess I'm sort of curious about the statements that you've just made that we no longer have the smartest students or the best workforce and that we're no longer leading in innovation and technology.
Will the gentleman yield, please?
This administration has been very good on financial aid, and this Congress has been great in providing financial aid. As a matter of fact, between fiscal years 2001 and 2009, the Pell Grant has seen an increase of over $27 billion. Now, these TRIO Programs that you talk about have a funding level of $853 million. That is less than $1 billion to the Pell Grant of $27 billion.
While providing financial aid to students is a great strategy, can you tell me why you think it is so important to fund these TRIO Programs in addition to the Pell Grant? Aren't we making a big enough investment in Pell?
Will the gentleman yield?
I come from a community where there has been a great deal of discussion about the failures of students on the fourth-grade reading tests and about the failures of students on the eighth-grade math tests, so I am really interested in your description of how the TRIO Programs really provide an intervention, as it were, in, admittedly, a systemically failed process up through middle school.
The TRIO Programs, as I have come to understand them, literally intervene in kids' lives in middle schools through the Upper Bound program, for example, and through Talent Search. They really identify that next generation of students who have the capability and the capacity to go to college and to really keep our country on top. Many countries do this. They have done it for generations. They have identified kids in middle schools. Despite the incapacity of the families, based on their incomes, to put their kids in private schools or to give them tutoring, the TRIO Programs intervene in middle school, and put them on a college track. Here are some of the data and statistics that I want you to respond to:
First of all, in terms of low-income students--and I'm not talking about any particular race or anything because, as I understand it, 37 percent of those students enrolled in TRIO are white students; 35 percent are African American; 19 percent are Hispanic; 4 percent are Native Americans; 22,000 of these students in TRIO are disabled students; and 25,000 are veterans.
So here we have a really diverse group of students who take advantage of these TRIO Programs, but they have one thing in common--they are all low-income students. They are all students who are disadvantaged by not having wealthy parents who can send them to prep schools. These are students we are depending on to become that next generation of engineers, scientists, and biologists. They are the people who are going to correct the conditions of our lakes, of our forests, and who will be these innovators. Yet, of all the low-income students in our country, only 41 percent enroll in college, and after 6 years in these Student Support Services, we find that almost 31 percent of these students actually attain a bachelor's degree, and that only 21 percent, literally 10 percent fewer of them, graduate from college when you have only given them Pell Grants.
I guess that is one of the problems that you have tried to share with us today, which is: If you are going to spend $27 billion and are going to make that kind of important investment in financial aid, it sure is important to give these students the wraparound services that they need, perhaps some remediation in math and in reading, so that they can succeed, some support services.
If you will indulge me, Mr. Scott, I will tell you a little story.
I was pregnant at 18 years old when I graduated from high school, and I was not headed to college. As a matter of fact, I was at the then- Boys' Club--it was not the Boys and Girls Club. I was at the Boys' Club, watching the boys play basketball, when a young man walked up to me and said, The director of the Educational Opportunity Program in Marquette is looking for you, and he said he wants you to come down there right away. That's how I ended up in college--18 years old, pregnant.
What these programs do is they actually interrupt the poverty cycle. They actually interrupted the sociological outcome for me to just be a welfare mom, receiving food stamps, with no hope of ever making an important contribution to society.
So I think that, if we are looking at a long-term bang for our buck, these TRIO Programs and increasing the funding for these TRIO Programs will certainly do that because we cannot afford the downward slide that you have described.
I'm not sure that people have really understood the seriousness of this. You mentioned that we were probably in the middle of the pack. According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, we are about 15th among 29 industrialized countries in college completion rates. That really has consequences, because when you look at China and at Japan and at South Korea, these are countries that are now the innovators in the world. They are producing the engineers. There used to be a time when you saw Chinese students sitting in American universities. You don't really see that anymore. They are staying at home and are obtaining their baccalaureate degrees.
Now, President Obama has indicated that he has a goal of producing the highest proportion of college graduates in the world by 2020. To reach that goal, this Pell Grant increase is a part of that program. He also wants to expand the reach of community colleges, wants to invest Federal money in research and data collection and in other reforms to the student loan program, and wants to simplify the student aid process.
The gentleman from Virginia, those are very good intentions, and you're experienced on the Education and Labor Committee, but I guess I'd like you to respond to whether or not just simply providing financial aid and collecting data will get us there.
Right.
Will the gentleman yield?
Gentleman, you indicated, I heard you say that we need to get all of our kids prepared to go to college. And I'm wondering if we aren't concerned about class warfare. We talked about those parents who are not low income. They've gone to college. They've had a college fund for their children early on. And perhaps these are parents who might feel somewhat resentful that there's a program out there that provides supportive services for low-income students, as I indicated, I mean, 41 percent of low-income students, just--I mean, if you're not an athlete and you can win a scholarship, you know, if you're not summa cum laude, valedictorian of your high school, you might not have access to scholarship funds.
What would you say to those parents who do have a baccalaureate degree about the need to make sure we give access to all students to college?
I was just looking at an article that was published in Forbes Magazine recently, called Investing in America's Future, and one of the points that the author made was that in California, two-fifths of the State's jobs are expected to require college degrees by the year 2020. But the number of adults with those credentials will fall short. So it's not just a matter of providing an opportunity for middle-class and upper-class students.
We've been joined by Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee, who has spoken often about the need for businesses to have an educated workforce. I've heard her speak very passionately about how there are so many requests among our business leaders for foreign students to come into the country because we don't have an educated workforce.
And so, gentleman, I'd like you to respond to that.
Thank you so much.
I'm so happy this evening that we've been joined by Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee from Houston, Texas; and I would yield to her at this time.
Will the gentlelady yield?
This is the question I have for my colleagues here. If it's so clear, as you've indicated, gentlelady from Texas, that TRIO works, if it's so clear, as the gentleman from Virginia has indicated, that we need, in order to remain globally competitive and to continue to be the innovative country and to really develop a way to develop and create new revenues for our country, we're not going to just cut spending and raise taxes and have that be adequate for remaining a first-class nation.
If it's true that we don't have enough upper-class students who are graduating from college that we can afford to ignore low-income white students, low-income African American students, low-income Hispanic students, low-income Asian students, disabled students and veterans who are in these programs, if we can't afford to ignore them, we've got to grab them and educate them so that we can meet those goals and that bar, why has TRIO been flat funded?
What are the consequences of the fact that TRIO was flat funded during fiscal year 2006 and 2008, had just a minimal increase in 2009, a minimal increase in 2010 and, God bless him, our Appropriations Chair, Dave Obey, added $20 million to TRIO this cycle, but after all of the negotiations with the Senate, only $5 million was retained in that program. What are the consequences of reducing these vital services to TRIO students and our remaining competitiveness of the world? We need at least $200 million for this program.
Will the gentlelady yield?
My colleague Representative Scott is a great mentor of mine. He serves on the Budget Committee, and he is an expert on one of the subjects that really consumes a great deal of time on this floor and in our committees, and that's the subject of the budget deficit and how we dig ourselves out of this hole. And I guess I was wondering if he would share--I'm sort of surprising him with this question, but I guess I would like for him to talk about the revenue options or the cutting options or how we got into this fiscal hole that we are in and what the role of educating and having an educated workforce will have on us ever being able to approach some sort of deficit reduction.
And I will yield to the gentleman.
Thank you so much for that, gentleman. That is so important.
You know, the Department of Education really bears this out. They say a high school dropout earns about $18,000 a year--of course that's if they're not costing us money in the prison system--a high school graduate, $26,000 a year, an associates degree, $38,000, and a bachelor's degree, $65,000. When we consider our aging baby boomers, we certainly are going to need to make sure that we have a lot of higher- income individuals working toward all of these innovations that we are so capable of.
Wow. Before I yield to the gentlelady, I just want to say that old adage, ``pennywise and pound foolish.'' I started this hour out by talking about all of the competing problems that we discuss on this floor, the cost of the war and cost of health care, costs of Medicare and Social Security, those entitlement programs, the cost of escalating the war in Afghanistan, the great recession where, at its height, 700,000 jobs were lost in a single month, the bailout funds for the ``too big to fail'' institutions.
And so if we allow ourselves to get mired down in this and decide that $200 million for an education program is just too much money, that would be the perfect place to talk about pennywise and pound foolish, wouldn't you agree, gentleman?
Thank you so much. That was just amazing information.
The gentlelady from Texas, I would love to hear what you have to say on this matter.
Thank you so much, gentlelady from Houston, Texas. And thank you, my dear friend and colleague on the Budget Committee and also on the Education and Labor Committee.
Before we close out this hour, I just want to sort of summarize what we have said here this evening.
We really admire this Congress and our President for really revamping tuition and making adequate tuition a priority. It has been so important to revisit how we make student loans so that we don't just provide funding for bankers, that we actually use those funds for students, to simplify student forms. It is even important to invest in research about educational outcomes.
It has been very, very important to have seen the dramatic increase in the Pell Grant because, without this tuition assistance, students would not be able to make it. Tuition assistance is a vital component in helping low-income and first-generation college students or any students get through college. Without these dollars, higher education would be unattainable for millions of students who rely on Pell to pay the bills. But all too often, Pell is a wasted investment for our low- income kids because they don't have access to guidance counselors and tutors and the other types of support that come with the TRIO programs.
It doesn't do the student or our country much good if we spend millions on first-year Pell recipients only to have those students drop out after their second or third year. That's not a sound investment. A sound investment is making sure that when we commit to providing educational resources for our most vulnerable kids, we give them all the tools to successfully see that journey through.
That's why we're here today. This Congress has drastically increased vital funding for Pell Grants. I have been and will continue to be a staunch
supporter of that increased investment, but I also know that millions of those dollars will be wasted unless we also invest in the tools to get these students through college.
More importantly, our country, our country, our beloved country that we love so much, and love so dearly, and a country that has given us an amazing life-style of modern living is at risk if we don't educate the future workforce. We have got to start with our tiny tots in early education, but that's a more long-term goal. Right now we are having an emergency, an emergency; students are either not graduating from high school or they are graduating with deficiencies.
In order to step up, we need a TRIO program, a modest amount of funding, $200 million in the scheme of things, nothing like we are spending on all the other crises in this country, that would help these programs serve those students who are on waiting lists.
With that, I would yield to the gentleman from Virginia.
This has been great, this has been fantastic, and I would say that the importance of this program is its diversity. It is not a program that just benefits one group of people. Thirty- seven percent of TRIO students are white, 35 percent are African Americans, 19 percent are Hispanics, 4 percent are Native Americans, 22,000 of TRIO's students are disabled students, and 25,000 are our beloved veterans.
This is a program that embraces every American from all backgrounds and makes sure that money is not the reason that you cannot use your brain. Talk about a brain drain, it's a brain drain when the only thing that stands between you and greatness is an education.
Thank you so much and good night.