I know the Senator from New Mexico wishes to speak as in morning business for 5 minutes, and certainly we would have no objection to that. I just want to lay out for Members what is going to transpire in the next few hours. The two…
I know the Senator from New Mexico wishes to speak as in morning business for 5 minutes, and certainly we would have no objection to that. I just want to lay out for Members what is going to transpire in the next few hours. The two managers are necessarily absent this morning but they have instructed us what should be done on this legislation. We have completed debate on the Breaux amendment. We are next going to move to the amendment that has been filed by the Senator from North Dakota, Mr. Dorgan.
Following that, unless the majority decides they want to offer an amendment, we are going to finish debate on the Graham amendment, which is also laid down.
We had an agreed-upon time on the Dorgan amendment, but as a result of the fact that we have been told a Senator may offer a second-degree amendment to his amendment, it would be difficult for us to agree to a limit on that. So debate will go forward on the Dorgan amendment, and those who are trying to determine whether they are going to offer an amendment can do so and at that time perhaps we can work out a time agreement. If they don't offer a second-degree amendment, that will be easier.
On the amendment of the Senator from Florida, Mr. Graham, he needs a half hour himself on that amendment, which we understand. There may be a few others who wish to take some time. We could agree to 45 minutes, maybe, to an hour, on our side. I doubt if the full hour will be used.
So it is my understanding that the leadership, when debate is completed on those amendments, would set a time for voting on all three amendments or maybe even four would be pending.
That is where we are. I think it indicates we are moving on this bill fairly rapidly. As Senator Daschle and I indicated this morning, on our side we are winding down our amendments. We have a few others that will be offered, not many. We hope the majority will also make a decision in the near future as to whether they want to finish this bill. We want to finish this bill. We hope the majority does also.
Yes.
It would include debate on the substitute?
Mr. President, I, first, didn't ask unanimous consent that that would be the case. During the time Senator Domenici is speaking, we will take a look at that. I just wanted to notify Senators what we were trying to accomplish. Senator Dorgan is on the floor and we will make a decision.
I ask unanimous consent that Senator Domenici be recognized for 5 minutes as in morning business and sometime during the day the Democrats be allotted the same privilege, 5 minutes as in morning business.
Mr. President, after consideration during the speech of Senator Domenici, we believe the action of the Senate will be as follows: Senator Dorgan will speak on behalf of his amendment. Senator Mikulski will speak on behalf of that amendment. It will take probably a half hour for them to do it, but that is not in the form of a unanimous consent request.
Following that debate, we will move off that amendment because the majority is finding what vehicle they are going to use for a second- degree amendment. When they finish, when Senators Dorgan and Mikulski finish, we will move immediately to the Graham amendment. At that time, we will lock in a 2-hour time agreement. It is probably likely that each side will not use its full hour.
Following that, it will be the desire of the majority to have a vote on the Breaux amendment and then on the amendment of the Senator from Florida. We will have two amendments and then go back to the amendment by the Senator from North Dakota.
I ask that we go to the Dorgan amendment. The Senator is on the floor. Following debate on that, I ask unanimous consent that we go to the Graham amendment.
And that there be 2 hours equally divided on the Graham amendment, with no second-degree amendments in order.
Will the Senator yield?
We now have agreement that we can have those two votes. I have already indicated that following the remarks of Senator Dorgan and Senator Mikulski, we would move to the Graham amendment No. 3112 and the time would be equally divided, 2 hours equally divided. Following the debate on that, I ask we move to vote in relation to the Graham amendment No. 3112. Prior to that, we vote on the Breaux amendment No. 3117. There will be 2 minutes equally divided prior to each of the votes.
Mr. President, how much time is left under Senator Graham's amendment on this side?
Mr. President, I will claim the 5 minutes we have under morning business. It is all part of the order of the Senate already. Then I will yield to my friend from Minnesota.
Mr. President, the Presiding Officer stands for many things, but, in my mind, one of the things you stand for is what is good about the United States military: A person who put himself in harm's way, with his brother, and has created a story that is intriguing and interesting and shows the bravery of the Presiding Officer in a time of crisis.
Mr. President, you are the role model for the troops we have in Iraq today. Our men and women there are fighting valiantly, and each day find themselves in harm's way, in many different avenues.
I came to the Senate floor this morning and talked about how I felt-- this Senator--on last Thursday I had been misled and not treated fairly. We had a briefing up in 407, and we had the Secretary of Defense there. As I indicated this morning, we had enough brass to fill a brass band. We had four-star generals. We had the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I do not want all the blame focused on Secretary Rumsfeld. I feel those military officers should have told Democratic and Republican Senators last Thursday what was going to break on ``60 Minutes'' that night. I feel terribly misled and disappointed in their not doing that.
I say that because by their not telling us what was going to come out--certainly all or most of them knew something was going to come out; and if they did not know, they should have known--each Senator was blindsided.
Now, Mr. President, the reason I mentioned you as a role model for the troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and around the rest of the world is virtually every man and woman serving in the military does the right thing. Obviously, from the photographs and information we have, some of them did not. But I do not want just the enlisted men, so to speak, to be the scapegoats for what has obviously transpired. There is a chain of command, and there is responsibility in that chain of command.
I am terribly disappointed what went on in 407 with the chain of command, and so I do not want my remarks at all to reflect adversely on the fighting men and women of this country--the Pat Tillmans of our country. There are lots of Pat Tillmans. We admire and respect him so much because he gave up a multimillion-dollar contract to go fight in the war. But lots of other people gave up lots of things to go fight in these wars, and there are lots of Pat Tillmans. I admire him and his family and his brother, who went in with him, as your brother went in with you.
So, Mr. President, I hope the chain of command understands their responsibility and does not try to pass the buck off on these people who needed, obviously, supervision and control.
I think also we have to take a look at what is going on in Iraq today with the so-called security guards who are being hired, because it is obvious some wrong
took place there as a result of what they did.
I appreciate my friend from Minnesota allowing me to speak prior to him. The Senator now has 16 minutes under the order.
Mr. President, it is my understanding Senator Hollings would propose that amendment immediately following the votes on the two pending amendments; is that right?
I announce that the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry) is necessarily absent.
I announce that the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry) is necessarily absent.
I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, reserving the right to object, and I will not object, I have spoken to the managers--well, not actually the managers of the bill--but I have spoken to the majority side. Prior to this kicking in, this unanimous consent agreement, I ask unanimous consent that the Senator from Vermont be recognized for 5 minutes as in morning business, and, of course, the same time accorded to the majority.
Mr. President, on the time we have, 20 minutes of that would go to Senator Dorgan.
I announce that the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry) is necessarily absent.
I announce that the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry) is necessarily absent.
I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Madam President, I have spoken to the Democratic leader, I have spoken to our manager. On our side we have six amendments remaining. I mention them by name: Feingold, 5 minutes on his side; Lautenberg, 30 minutes; Corzine, 30 minutes; Cantwell, 30 minutes; Hollings, 40 minutes; Landrieu, 30 minutes. This bill can be completed in a relatively short time. I understand the Members would rather not vote on some of these amendments, but I want the record to reflect we would agree to these very short time limits. There are no surprises in any of the amendments. Everyone knows what they are. Certainly on Hollings and Landrieu, we have agreed with the majority these could be next in order.
The problem we have, everyone should understand, is Senator Cantwell will not let us do the unanimous consent agreement unless we have some way of disposing of her amendment. I have also been contacted by Senator Corzine, Senator Lautenberg, and Senator Feingold. They will agree to no more unanimous consent agreements unless they are included in the order in some way.
I repeat: Each of these Senators wants this bill passed. None of them is trying to stall. They understand the importance of this legislation. But add up all the time on our side, and it is about 2 hours 45 minutes. That is all that is remaining on debate time on our side. I hope we recognize and can figure out some way to get through these amendments and get this bill passed. I see no reason we could not do it tomorrow easily.
Mr. President, reserving the right to object, will the distinguished chairman of the committee allow a modification to his request, that the Senator from Washington be allowed to speak for 10 minutes prior to us going into morning business?
Mr. President, if I could respond, the Senator from Washington is protected. Her amendment is the next amendment. I mean, it is an amendment that is now before the Senate, and she understands nothing is going to happen on this bill until there is an agreement in some regard to her vote. She is not going to ask at this period of time for a unanimous consent. She does not need to be protected.