I yield the time of the minority. cloture motion I announce that the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry) is necessarily absent. I announce that the Senator from North Carolina (Mr. Edwards) and the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr.…
I yield the time of the minority.
cloture motion
I announce that the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry) is necessarily absent.
I announce that the Senator from North Carolina (Mr. Edwards) and the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry), are necessarily absent.
I announce that the Senator from North Carolina (Mr. Edwards) and the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry) are necessarily absent.
Mr. President, I know the order is that the distinguished senior Senator from West Virginia gets the floor. I ask unanimous consent that I be able to ask, under my time postcloture, some questions of the Senator from Connecticut.
Is that OK with the Senator from West Virginia?
Mr. President, I have been fascinated with the statement of the Senator from Connecticut. What triggered my mind was the statements he made about General Shinseki who said we would need a couple hundred thousand troops over there. I ask the Senator from Connecticut, what happened to him? He is gone.
I ask the Senator, does he remember a man named Larry Lindsey? I suggest he was on the Board of Governors working with Alan Greenspan. He also was the chief economic adviser to President Bush. Does the Senator from Connecticut remember a time just a short time ago after the war started that he said he thought the war could cost as much as $200 billion?
He was even more lenient than that. The news article I have says it would be between $100 billion to $200 billion. The Senator recognizes that he was also given his walking papers; is that true?
Before asking my final question, I ask the Senator from Connecticut, I am confident he is aware of the last press conference that the President held; is that true? Does the Senator remember the question that was asked in that press conference where the President said, when asked the question about having made mistakes, he couldn't remember any? I ask the Senator from Connecticut if he thinks this is a mistake made by the President: No. 1, going on the aircraft carrier and having a banner above it saying ``Mission Accomplished''? The Senator is aware that since that time, about 700 American soldiers have been killed; is that true?
So it is fair, is it not, that could have been a mistake?
Does the Senator from Connecticut also think it was a mistake for the President to say--when asked about whether there would be any people who would cause trouble there, does the Senator from Connecticut remember him saying, ``Bring 'em on''?
I suggest to the President's people that they should advise him the next time he is asked that question, he could at least relate to those two things--No. 1, ``Mission Accomplished,'' and No. 2, ``Bring 'em on.'' Since the time of ``Bring 'em on,'' hundreds of soldiers have been killed and thousands maimed for life and injured in other ways.
I appreciate very much that statement of the distinguished Senator from Connecticut.
I say to my friend, I also voted for the resolution. I think it is extremely important that we who support the effort in Iraq, protecting the men and women who are representing our country over there, have the ability to speak out freely on this issue and not be criticized as having been unpatriotic for having done so.
The Senator from West Virginia was originally almost a lone voice speaking out against this event. Time has shown perhaps his vision was more meaningful than people realized at the time. I appreciate the Senator responding to my questions.
If I can, as a matter of trying to lay out what is ahead of us, Senator Wyden spoke with me and one other Senator indicating they worked to get cloture on this amendment that the Senator from Arizona filed. There has been an agreement--I have not been part of those agreements--that Senator Wyden, Senator Carper, and others would have an opportunity to offer amendments. The Senator from Arizona has indicated that he will do everything within his power to make sure those amendments are offered and debated in an orderly time.
My only statement to the Senator from Arizona is, I think it may be difficult to finish this bill today because he talked about extraneous matters. The Senator from West Virginia has a right to speak for 1 hour on this matter, as do I and others. No one is attempting to stall this legislation. The Senator from Arizona had a very important vote, but I hope this matter is not, in effect, going to be jammed through. This is an important piece of legislation. We will work with the majority as much as we can, but based on my experience in the Senate--the Senator from Arizona and I came on the very same day, so one does not have more experience than the other--I think it will be difficult to finish tonight. If we can, we will work with you. I think it is extremely difficult to finish tonight.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, this morning we came to the floor and were confronted with a situation where we tried to get an extension of a highway bill. That was objected to by the senior Senator from the State of Missouri. We talked a little bit at that time, and what we talked about is, basically, if there is no extension given--which has been cleared on our side, by the way--there will be some 5,000 Federal employees of the U.S. Department of Transportation laid off. They may be able to wait until Monday, but certainly they will be able to wait no longer.
What does this mean? It means new highway and bridge projects will be shelved. It will stop reimbursement payments to the States for projects already incurred. It will halt safety grants to the States. It will stop work on transit construction in the Nation's cities and towns. It will interrupt enforcement of motor carrier safety regulations. It will disrupt inspection efforts at our Nation's borders. All we are asking is a temporary extension.
I said this morning, and I say tonight, Senator Inhofe has been a real soldier. He has been with us every step of the way to get a highway bill that is meaningful. No one can question the conservative credentials of Jim Inhofe from Oklahoma. The Senator from Oklahoma is noted for being a person who watches where the money is spent. But he recognizes the bill we reported and passed in the Senate, a bill that was some $318 billion, is legislation that is important for the country. It is important for the State of Oklahoma. It is important for the State of Nevada. It is important for the State of Rhode Island. It is important for the State of Virginia, and every other State I see represented on this Senate floor--which is no other State at this time.
This is something we have to do. I think it would be a terrible shame, and I can't imagine the reason that my friend, the distinguished senior Senator from Missouri, has used for wanting to object to this extension.
He says: I want a conference appointed.
Mr. President, we have said there are other ways of arriving at this. There are other ways of having legislation approved by the body, by the House, and sent to the President.
I have in my hand bills enacted into law without using conferencing. This is an effort to negotiate differences in language between the House and the Senate. We have, just in the 108th Congress, 21 different measures, important measures: TANF, military family relief, Tax Relief Act, veterans' benefits, and many other pieces of legislation--18 others, to be specific.
I think it is a tightrope I would not want to go to Nevada on, saying that I objected to the highway bill and I am closing the Department of Transportation because the minority won't agree to a conference. I don't think that is very good reasoning. I think the people of the country would also think it is not good reasoning.
We have worked, in a bipartisan manner, to produce a highway bill in the Senate. That legislation achieved 76 votes. We received a letter from 20 Republican Senators, dated today, supporting the Senate funding levels. These are Republican Senators, 20 Senators. These are Senators, any one of which----
I am happy to.
Three hours. Pastore works 3 hours after we take up a measure. So that wouldn't apply here.
I appreciate my friend's interest.
Certainly, I understand that totally. Mr. President, the reason I understand that is the legislation that is before this body, this Internet legislation, has so many ramifications that are important to what is going on in the country today. One of the things going on in the country today is how we have improved the way we work on transportation generally. But for the high-tech industry we couldn't do many of the things that are done today. There are many different things we do today that we didn't do 5 years ago, or even 10 years ago as a result of computerization.
The vehicles on the roads now, with some exceptions in the State of Nevada, Department of Transportation vehicles, have computers in them. So I have no qualms, using my hour's time on this legislation, talking about the importance of the highway bill and, of course, the fact is, with the highway bill there are many high-tech propositions that would be affected by this underlying legislation.
Mr. President, I have a letter. I would read all the names, but, frankly, I can't read them because I can't read some of the signatures. But I do see one signature that jumps out at me: Elizabeth Dole. She has been Cabinet Secretary two or three times, but one of those times she was a Secretary. In one of our President's Cabinets she was Secretary of Transportation.
Elizabeth Dole is one of those supporting the $318 billion bill. Virtually every Senator on the Democratic side supports it. That is 69 votes right there.
I hope what we are doing today is only for a short time. We need in the worst way to find out a way of getting Senator Bond to agree to this extension. This Nation expects nothing less.
The Republican leadership is going to meet today or tomorrow and talk about what they think should be the size of this bill. The vast majority--far more than 67 Senators, the veto-proof number of Senators--believe we should have a higher number.
It is very clear. If a bill came to the Senate or the House with $318 billion for highway transit, we would override any veto of the President. Why? Because this bill does not raise the debt. It is paid for out of trust fund money, and revenue streams are already in place.
Not only do we have a lot of people supporting this legislation, as I indicated earlier today--and it is now in the Record--but we have hundreds of organizations that support this legislation: U.S. Chamber of Commerce; Laborers International Union of North America; Associated General Contractors--they are not together very often on anything-- American Road & Transportation Builders Association; International Union of Operating Engineers; American Public Transportation Association; National Asphalt Pavement Association; National Stone, Sand & Gravel Association; Association of Equipment Manufacturers; American Waterways Operators; Air Transport Association; and Waterways Work.
These are only a few of the hundreds of organizations that want us to proceed.
I hope we can do this. It would be a shame to lay off 5,000 people. The impact it would have on their immediate families is important. But the impact it would have on this country--we are just beginning to come out of a recession, so I am told. We are really fighting for jobs. One way to work to have more jobs is to keep the highway program going.
This legislation that is before the Senate is about as high tech as you can get. We know for every $1 billion spent in infrastructure development, 47,500 jobs are generated. That is important. That is only for direct jobs, and thousands of other jobs are spun off from that.
I hope we can move forward. I understand the importance of consumer- friendly legislation. Let us please not have an objection to this legislation.
I am not going to ask unanimous consent until Senator Bond has some knowledge that I will do that. But I will do that later in the day.
I appreciate everyone's courtesy. I know they stretched the rule a little bit for me. I am very grateful. Even though the highway bill is high tech, I am not sure it is that high tech.
Mr. President, reserving the right to object, we have a bill that is about to be completed, and I do not want to interfere. I have a statement that will take a few minutes. But I want the Record spread with the fact that after I do object, sometime before the day is out I will renew my request for the 2-month extension together with a statement.
So at this time, I say to the two managers of the bill, do you want to do something on this bill that is now before the Senate? I ask, through the Chair, the distinguished chairman of the Commerce Committee, are you ready to do something right now on the bill? Otherwise, I will give my statement.
As I said to the Chair, I do not want to take away from moving this bill forward if people are ready to do something. But we are waiting for Senator Feinstein, I understand.
Mr. President, I will speak very briefly. When she shows up, I will finish within a couple minutes.
I object.
Mr. President, this will be the third extension of this very important legislation. The first extension was the 5-month extension. We did that because we could not get our act together: Senator Inhofe, Senator Jeffords, Senator Bond, and this Senator. As a result of that, we got a commitment from the majority leader and the minority leader we could take up this bill at a specified time in February. Everyone lived up to that agreement, and we did that. Within almost a record period of time, we passed this very important legislation. So that was the reason for the first extension.
The second extension was necessary because the House had not yet done their legislating. We asked for a 2-month extension on this matter on February 27.
At that time Senators McCain and Lieberman objected to that extension because they had some problems with the 9/11 Commission. As a result of that, a number of us came to the floor and said: How could Senator McCain and Senator Lieberman do such a thing? And in the process, statements were made, some of which were by the distinguished Senator from Missouri.
I quote from the Congressional Record of that date. I will not read the whole statement. I will read that which is pertinent. This is a quote from the distinguished Senator from Missouri:
What the Senators from Arizona and Connecticut are doing is
seeking to hold hostage the whole highway program in the
United States.
I agree. That is what is happening now.
The Senator further went on to say:
This extension expires on Sunday.
Just as it does now.
If we fail to extend this, there will be a shutdown of any
further contract authority for Federal aid highway projects
and a shutdown of payments for work already contracted for by
the States and performed by contractors. This means no
further projects can be approved or awarded. It also means
that not only the Federal Highway Administration but also the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the Federal
Motor Carrier Administration, as well as the Bureau of
Transportation Statistics, will cease operation.
Skipping:
Not only are we talking about people's livelihoods, we are
shutting down the Federal agencies, which will have an
adverse consequence for our Nation's highways, motor carrier
safety, and consequentially for the condition and operation
of our Nation's surface transportation system.
Skipping down two more paragraphs:
Jobs will be lost in the private sector. An extension is
bad enough, but a complete disruption of the program when
there are crucial job needs across the country will have an
economic impact on the families directly, and on the economy.
Next paragraph:
We need the extension to stop playing politics with
people's jobs in this most important legislation.
I will shortly.
I could not have said it better myself. That is what we are facing right now. We are facing a shutdown of jobs. We will furlough 5,000 people in the agencies that were referred to on February 27 by my friend.
The people of this country should understand there are different ways of getting a bill to the President's desk. It is not necessarily with a conference. I have told Senator Inhofe and Senator Frist that does not mean we are not going to go to conference.
I say to my friends, anyone within the sound of my voice, if conferees were appointed right now, immediately, the first thing we would do is say: OK, staff, majority staff, minority staff, majority and minority staff from the House, get together and work on this. See what you can come up with. Bring it back to us. That would take a couple of weeks to do that.
Then we would work through whatever they couldn't work through themselves. Finally, the Members would agree on certain things. Then if there were things we could not agree on, we would take it to the full conference.
We are weeks and weeks away from that if we appoint a conference right now. The point is, we are not appointing conferences right now because, as I said before, we have on many occasions, more than 20 times already in this year's Congress, passed legislation by what we call preconferencing it. It does not matter what you call it.
I have the same goal as the Senator from Missouri. We want a highway bill. I appreciate and admire and respect his energy in helping arrive at this bill where we now have a bill that is good
for the American people, a 6-year bill, $318 billion that is good for roads and transit.
I hope the Senator has made his point, but I do believe we need to get this short 2-month extension done and then if there is something that comes up in 2 months that the Senator thinks we are not making progress on the legislation, then he may want to try something such as this again.
I yield to my friend who said he had a question.
Mr. President, in answer to the Senator from Missouri's question, I certainly understand the point he is making. I simply do not agree.
I, therefore, at a subsequent time before we adjourn this evening, will ask unanimous consent that the Senate pass a 2-month extension, something the House has already done.
At this time Senator Feinstein has arrived and I would only end by saying that I personally would not want to return to Nevada, recognizing that I would not agree to a 2-month extension. In Nevada, it would wreak havoc with the growth of the State there.
The fact is, even where there is not rapid growth, as in Nevada, there are repairs that must be done. The construction season is upon us. Some of these projects will never go forward.
Amendment No. 3105 to Amendment No. 3048
Reserving the right to object, I direct this question to the manager of the bill, Senator Dorgan. Is that correct, that all amendments have been offered?
I would say also to the two managers of the bill, then we should be advised there will be at least two more votes, perhaps on Feinstein and final passage.
I would say also to my two friends, I always like to have the trains run on time. This is excellent work. I appreciate this. I thought it couldn't be done today. I have no objection.
I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Objection.
I announce that the Senator from Louisiana (Mr. Breaux), the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry), are necessarily absent.
I announce that the Senator from Louisiana (Mr. Breaux) and the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kerry) are necessarily absent.