Mr. President, I extend my appreciation to my friend from Wisconsin for his statement. When the senior Senator from Wisconsin comes to the floor, he is prepared. I am always so impressed with the substance of his statements. The Senator…
Mr. President, I extend my appreciation to my friend from Wisconsin for his statement. When the senior Senator from Wisconsin comes to the floor, he is prepared. I am always so impressed with the substance of his statements. The Senator and I have traveled to parts of the world. He has a great concern about what is going on in the world. He is able to express himself very well. I acknowledge his statement today and extend for the second time this afternoon my appreciation for his statement.
Mr. President, there has been a lot of talk on the Senate floor today, but I am very disappointed it has only been talk. We are not legislating. For this very important bill on the floor, we have had one vote. There are many people in the Senate who have more experience than I as a national legislator, but I have been here 22 years. I know how the Senate operates. I know how it used to operate.
The way it operates today is not pleasant, I am sorry to say. There is no reason we cannot be real legislators, take these amendments and work through them. I am convinced this is not the right way to legislate.
I have the greatest respect for the majority leader. He is a fine man. He is a humanitarian, as shown by his chosen profession. He is a real medical expert. He is an organ transplant specialist. And he has, in his capacity as a Senator, gone to countries where there is a shortage of doctors, and he does work that he is overqualified for but that is badly needed, doing hernias and other types of surgery.
So I do not say this in any way to take away from the dignity of his job. I do not want, in any way, to demean him personally. But I am just saying, the Senate is not being handled right. I do not know if it is because of the advice he is getting from his other Senators or what the reason is. Maybe he is getting advice from the White House. I do not know. But we should be moving through these pieces of legislation.
For example, the FSC bill, this very important tax bill, Senator Harkin offered an amendment on overtime. Why did he offer this amendment on overtime? Because we believe--and we have substantive facts to back us up--that 8 million people, because of actions taken by this administration, will no longer be entitled to overtime pay.
Who are these people? They are firemen; they are police officers; they are nurses. If someone disagrees with us, let them come and oppose the Harkin amendment in the light of day and say I don't like the Harkin amendment for this reason or this reason or this reason. And then let's vote on it.
Senator Harkin has said, on many occasions, he will take a very short time agreement on the amendment. What does that mean? It means he would take 15 minutes. The majority could have 15 minutes. Let's have a vote on the amendment.
This amendment passed before. It passed the Senate last October. The House instructed its conferees to do exactly what the Senate did. But that bill was not allowed to move forward because there was an effort made--and successfully--not to vote on that overtime amendment.
So now we move to the reauthorization of the welfare bill, TANF. Senators Boxer and Kennedy offered an amendment dealing with minimum wage. Certainly, on a welfare bill that is an amendment that seems to have some bearing. We want to do what we can. I have supported the welfare-to-work programs we have had going. But one of the things we have to do is make sure these people moving off welfare and on to work can earn a living.
As we have established on the Senate floor, quite clearly, minimum wage jobs are not jobs that are set aside for kids from high school to flip hamburgers or for old Americans who are in a state of semiretirement and need a little extra work. No. Sixty percent of the minimum wage jobs are held by women. And for the majority of those women, that is the only money they get for them and their families.
We want to raise the minimum wage from $5.15 an hour. If someone opposes, let's have a debate on whether we should raise the minimum wage. But, no, we are not allowed to vote on that issue. There have been some complaints that, well, there are other amendments. We will give you a vote on that maybe, but we have to have an agreement on the other amendments.
Why can't we legislate the way we used to? Just work our way through these amendments and produce a tax bill and produce a welfare bill? It might require we work a night or two. It might require we have votes on Friday and even Monday, but I do not understand why we are in this situation. I do not think it is good for the institution. I know it is not good for the American public.
We are not in control of the Senate. Because of the untimely death of Paul Wellstone, our margin dropped from 50 to 49. It would have been 50-50 had he not been untimely killed in that plane crash. Now we are in the minority, 51-49. We understand that. We understand there will be a day in the future when we will be in control, and we will want as much cooperation as we can get from the minority. I hope when we are in the majority we will be treated to the sense that the Senate is the Senate, as it has been for more than 200 years, and we will work through these amendments.
We have been concerned--and I am happy to see the fact that in a bill earlier today the leader of the Budget Committee, Senator Nickles, and the ranking member, Senator Conrad, agreed there would be a real conference where Democrats and Republicans sit down and try to work out differences between the bill. That is the way we need to do it.
There has been a pattern where Democrats are not even allowed into the room at a conference. My limited amount of math shows me we are in the minority. And when you have a conference, we are going to lose most of those votes anyway, but we are entitled to have a discussion in those conference committees about ideas we have. Maybe if our ideas are good enough, we can get somebody from the majority to agree with us and we can win on some issues in those conferences.
I can't imagine why we are not doing a better job on moving these pieces of legislation. I see my distinguished friend, the majority whip, my counterpart. Maybe he is here with some good news that we are going to start moving some of this legislation. I hope that is the case.
I want to be as constructive as I can to help work through this legislation. But for the life of me, I cannot see why we can't vote on overtime and on the minimum wage. It is good for the institution. It is good for the country. We are willing to take our chances. If there are more votes to defeat overtime and the minimum wage, that is OK. That is the way things happen. But we think we can win both measures and move past this on to something else that is related.
I have heard discussions of the ranking member, Senator Baucus, who has indicated some of the things we need to get done in the TANF bill. I have said on the Senate floor on a number of occasions, I don't know of two Senators, in leadership positions with committee assignments, who get along better than the senior Senator from Iowa and the senior Senator from Montana. They work out their differences.
I am convinced there is ground to be made up here. We can still do these two bills. We want both of them passed. Forty-nine Democrats want the welfare bill to pass. We also want the tax bill we were on last week to pass. We want these bills to pass, but we believe there are some institutional issues that are important, and the American people are entitled to votes. I am not going to be drawing any overtime, but there are
8 million people who are entitled to a vote on overtime, whether the administration should be able to take that away from them. There are tens of millions of people who are entitled to a minimum wage increase. We need to do that.
Some States have gone ahead and said Congress is acting too slowly, and they have a minimum wage above ours right now. There is going to be a ballot initiative in the State of Nevada this year--they have to get some signatures, but I am sure they will get enough--to raise the minimum wage in Nevada to $6.15 an hour, a dollar more than what we do. The people of the State of Nevada will vote on that in November. I don't think they should have to vote on it. We should be doing our job. But we are not able to do our job because we are being stopped from doing this because we are in the minority.
We are going to continue exercising the rights we have. The Senate allows us to offer amendments. People can say: Why do you offer amendments that have no bearing on what we are doing? I think everyone would acknowledge that this overtime pay issue does have a bearing on what we do. It would be without any foundation in logic to say we don't have a right on a welfare bill to offer a minimum wage amendment. We should be able to do so.
I repeat--I want the record spread--we are not trying to stall. We believe passage of these two measures is extremely important. We want them to pass. We have confidence in the two managers of the bill. But the leadership of the majority has to allow us to move past where we are now because we are in a deadlock, and that is too bad.
Mr. President, we have an opportunity to, based on the statement of the Senator from Kentucky, move some of this legislation. But I cannot understand why, when we finish running one race, we have to immediately go to the other race. We need a little time to rest.
What I am saying about that is that we have on many occasions passed bills in the Senate and accomplished the desire of the people working on that legislation by working things out with the House. We have done that without using conference. We have done this simply in negotiating the differences between the House and Senate. We have done it in the 108th Congress; we did it 21 times then. In the 107th Congress, we did it 51 times.
I think before the end of this year, if we can get a few things done on the floor, instead of 21 bills, we can get it up to maybe 40. We have done it on very important things, such as AIDS assistance, TANF extension, military family tax relief, national flood insurance, Syria accountability, veterans benefits, the Defense Production Act, which are very important pieces of legislation. There have been some things we have done with a conference. As some will recall, last year we had a difficult situation with the fair credit reporting. But Senator Shelby and Senator Sarbanes decided that the best thing they could do would be to set a standard and the two leaders said, yes, we are willing to go to conference, we think we can do a good job. They did that. It became law.
We are one step ahead of where we should be. We want legislation passed in the Senate. When that is done, there are many ways to resolve differences with the House. We can do it in conference and there are occasions when we need to do that. Some may ask why we have balked at conferences. Very simply, for example, the overtime measure which passed here went to conference, and Democrats weren't even invited into the room where the conference was held. A bill came back here and, of course, overtime was stripped from it, and we had a bill that did not go through the conference process. They did not follow the Shelby- Sarbanes model.
We are willing to work to get legislation passed. We have said we want to do that, we want to work our way through these amendments. But to come here and say we will do it if you only have 4 amendments, the best way to get these bills passed is to work on them. These bills don't come magically. We have 49 of us here and 51 on the other side. We all have ideas as to how the legislation could be improved. Sometimes our ideas are good and sometimes they are bad. But individual Senators--there are two Senators from every State with the ability to get elected. We have wide interests we represent in our States. We have an obligation to allow them to offer amendments and move through this legislation.
I am not an expert in parliamentary procedure in the Senate. I don't think many people can claim that. I do understand a lot of the procedures in the Senate, and I understand that the best way to do legislation is to work through it. If you have an amendment you don't agree with, speak against it and vote against it. But don't stop others from having the opportunity to vote.
So, again, we are being told today, yes, we will let you have some amendments, or we will let you have more than some, but if we do that, you have to agree to go to conference. We are not going to do that. We are going to do everything we can to get a bill passed.
As I have indicated, Mr. President, in the 108th Congress, 21 times we have been able to get legislation passed and sent to the President without a conference. We have negotiated our differences in the language between the House and Senate. We can continue to do that. We did it 51 times in 107th Congress. So as I said before, and I repeat, there is no reason we should not legislate the way we always have in days past: You introduce legislation, it goes to committee, comes to the floor, we debate it, offer amendments, and vote on it. When that is done, you figure out how you are going to work your way through the differences with the House.
We want to pass the tax bill that was in effect on the Senate floor last week. I repeat, we want to pass this welfare bill. The only way we can show that is by agreeing to work through these amendments. There is not a single Senator who wants to filibuster this bill. We are not going to be stopped from offering these amendments, and we will hold together as a body and not allow cloture to be invoked tomorrow. It is not fair.