Mr. President, can I be heard? Mr. President, I am very sorry people missed the vote. We waited almost 25 minutes for the vote. And I am sorry. Senator Lieberman certainly did not do anything intentionally. He thought the vote would be…
Mr. President, can I be heard?
Mr. President, I am very sorry people missed the vote. We waited almost 25 minutes for the vote. And I am sorry. Senator Lieberman certainly did not do anything intentionally. He thought the vote would be held open. I have checked with the very loyal staff we have in the cloakroom, and there was a misunderstanding between the cloakroom and Senator Lieberman.
But, regardless, I hope everybody understands we have to have some semblance of order around here. We are doing our very best to save people time. One of the things we are doing to save time is have a vote start on time and end on time. A 15-minute vote is a 20-minute vote. This vote was cut off approaching 25 minutes.
So I am sorry that people missed the vote. I had one Senator tell me it was the first one they missed. It is a favor to that person. I say the first vote I missed took a lot of the pressure off.
This vote passed, I think, 2 to 1. It is not a very difficult issue. I am so sorry that people are disturbed about following the rules here. That is what we are doing.
I appreciate my friend from Montana because if he had not objected, I would have.
Yes.
Because I will object to it.
Yes.
Mr. President, will the Senator from Montana yield?
Mr. President, I say to all my colleagues, we have been in this session now for 7 months. This is something we all decided would be best for the institution. We all decided this. This is not something we put into effect yesterday. And I say to my dear friend, the senior Senator from Utah, I understand his compassion. He does not want to miss votes. But if we decide to change it this time, then we will be doing it every time people miss a vote.
Now, it would be different--I say to my friend, the ``Babe Ruth'' of the Senate, Senator Byrd, this was not 60 seconds, a few seconds off. We have a lot of work we need to do here. The vote was a 15-minute vote. We waited almost 25 minutes. So I think we have been fair.
The one I feel worst for is my friend Joe Lieberman, because he felt they had the time to get here. I have checked with the cloakroom, and they emphatically said there was a misunderstanding, because they have a time, they know when the vote is going to end. When everybody calls, they say there is no extension, the time the vote will end is such and such a time. They have been instructed to do this because one Senator missed a vote Monday. So the cloakroom has instructions as to what to do.
I am sorry people missed votes, but remember, this is not anything that is new. It is something that has been going on for 7 months, and we have a lot of work to do. I respectfully suggested to one of my friends, who said: Well, we wasted all this time; we could have gone ahead and waited for everybody--but while we are waiting for everybody to come and vote, some people got here on time, and other people have work they want to do, waiting for people to get here on time.
So I think it is best for the body that we stick to our 15 minutes, plus 5 minutes. That is when the vote will be called. For those of us who have had service in the House--many of us have--you do not have any wiggle room in the House. That vote is over, and you are through. It is done mechanically, and you are all through. We do not want it to be like the House. This is the Senate, and we want it differently. That is why we have a 5-minute leeway.
I appreciate everyone's thoughtfulness, but I am certainly trying to do the right thing.
Let me say this. I have heard everyone loudly and clearly because we have spent a lot of time on this. Just so everyone has the total, absolute understanding, in the future--Senator Leahy; Senator Lieberman; Senator Baucus; Senator Kerry; Senator Dorgan; Senator Byrd, on Appropriations--if Appropriations chairmen tell you there is more time to vote, there is not any. Therefore, if the chairman is trying to keep you there, and the time is running, walk out of there.
I ask unanimous consent that those Senators who missed the vote because of the misunderstanding with Senator Lieberman be allowed to cast their votes.
Never been done. OK.
We tried, Kay.
Mr. President, it is my understanding the distinguished Senator from West Virginia is going to be recognized now; is that right?
Mr. President, if I can interrupt my friend for a minute, will the Senator yield to me to make a brief statement regarding the statement made by the distinguished Republican leader, to be followed by 5 or 6 minutes by the Senator from Vermont, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and then the Senator from West Virginia would, of course, have all of his time?
Mr. President, it appears at this time that we will move to table this sense-of-the-Senate resolution offered by my friend, the distinguished Republican leader. I appreciate his advocacy for Judge Southwick. Some of us have a different opinion about Judge Southwick, and that has been made a part of the record already. I would refer to the Congressional Record of July 20, where I gave an extended statement on Judge Southwick and why I thought he should not be confirmed, but there will be more time to talk about this.
We have done a very good job, working with Senator Leahy, in clearing judges. We have a bump in the road with this one, there is no question, and the bump is still there. I admire and appreciate the work done by the Senator from Vermont because we have been through some difficult times in recent years with the Judiciary Committee. Senator Leahy will make a brief statement about some of the travails we have had.
Judge Southwick has had a hearing. It is up to the Republicans-- namely, Senators Lott and Cochran--whether they want to vote in that committee. That is so much more than was given to Senator Clinton's nominees, where about 70 never even had a hearing.
So we will have more time to debate this at a subsequent time, and sometime later today I will confer with my distinguished Republican colleague, the minority leader, to determine when I will offer a motion to table or Senator Leahy will offer a motion to table.
Mr. President, could I ask the distinguished Senator from South Dakota if I could interrupt for a unanimous consent request?
I yield a couple of minutes to Senator Baucus for the unanimous consent request.
Mr. President, if I could interrupt, Senator Thune was speaking and I would ask, how much more time does the Senator need?
How much time does Senator Craig need?
Madam President, just a brief comment on the distinguished Republican leader's statement.
As we speak, there are meetings going on to see if we can resolve this matter in a manner that is acceptable to Republicans and Democrats in the Senate, and of course then we have to also be concerned about the House. Senator McConnell and I were in a meeting early this morning with individuals, including Admiral McConnell, and we hope something can be worked out.
We waited a little longer than I wanted, waiting for Admiral McConnell's papers to come here this afternoon, but they are here and they are being reviewed. I spoke to Senator Levin just a few minutes ago. There is nothing serious, but Senator Rockefeller has been with his wife today on a minor problem, but it was necessary he not be here. So we are trying to work our way through this.
Hopefully, we can resolve this. It is something important, we are going to do everything we can, and we hope all sides will be reasonable. At this point they have been. It is an issue we certainly need to resolve, if at all possible, before we leave for our August recess.
I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I have spoken to the distinguished Republican leader. I have spoken to the two managers of the bill. I think it would be appropriate to announce at this time there will be no more rollcall votes tonight. However, if people have a desire to offer amendments, the managers are willing to talk to you about those amendments. They need some idea of who else wants to offer amendments. You can hear from them.
My main purpose in making this statement is announcing there will be no more rollcall votes tonight, after this next vote, of course.
Amendment No. 2602
Mr. President, I ask the Senator from Georgia to yield so that I may speak for a few minutes. I am sorry I wasn't on the floor to listen to the speech of the Senator from Kentucky, the Republican leader, dealing with FISA.
Let me say briefly, we got the bill and the rule XIV late this afternoon. Ours is almost completed. We are working on it in my office, and the Speaker has to sign off on some of these things. It could take a little while before we are able to file this.
I so appreciate the Senator from Maryland. She is a woman who takes tremendously difficult jobs as a Senator. She has been a valued member on more than one occasion on the Ethics Committee, doing some of the most difficult work we have had to do on ethics in the entire history of the country. And then as far as her serving on the Intelligence Committee, she has been exemplary. I depend on her for information on what to do. A lot of times these meetings are held, and you need direction as to what we need to do on the Senate floor because what goes on in the Intelligence Committee is all secret. I admire and respect her so much because she helped us get to the point where we are.
We are going to come back with the proposal that we will file, a rule XIV, as the Republicans did theirs. It is meeting the expectations of the American people. One of the things we have going for us with this repair of FISA is Admiral McConnell. We trust this man. He is a man who speaks in a language we understand. He is direct and concise. Because of that, I think we can work something out. I just spoke to the vice chair of the Intelligence Committee, Senator Bond. We talked about the fact that ours will be laid down, and theirs is already laid down. Certainly, we should be able to work something out. We are all trying to obtain the same goal: to be able to protect ourselves from the evil people in the world who are trying to do harm to us as a country and individually and others from around the world.
We are going to proceed in good faith to try to get this done, and hopefully sometime in the next little bit, we will be able to file our legislation and what we call rule XIV so we are matching what the Republicans did this afternoon.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I send a cloture motion to the desk.
Mr. President, I send a cloture motion to the desk.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.