Mr. Speaker, I move that the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the bill (H.R. 2673) making appropriations for Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug…
Mr. Speaker, I move that the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union for the consideration of the bill (H.R. 2673) making appropriations for Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2004, and for other purposes; and pending that motion, Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that general debate be confined to the bill, and be limited to not to exceed 1 hour, the time to be equally divided and controlled by the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Kaptur) and myself.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. BONILLA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to bring before the House today the fiscal year 2004 appropriations bill for Agriculture, Rural Development, the Food and Drug Administration and Related Agencies.
My goal this year has been to produce a bipartisan bill, and I believe we have done a good job in reaching that goal.
The Subcommittee began work on this bill with the submission of the President's Budget on February 3rd. We had ten public hearings beginning on February 26th, and we completed our hearings on March 20th. The transcripts of these hearings, the Administration's official statements, the detailed budget requests, several thousand questions for the record and the statements of Members and the public are all contained in eight hearing volumes.
The Subcommittee and full Committee marked up the bill on June 17th and June 25th, respectively.
We have tried very hard to accommodate the requests of Members, and to provide increases for critical programs. We received more than 2,380 individual requests for specific spending, from almost every member of the House. Reading all of the mail I received, I can confirm to you that the interest in this bill is completely bipartisan. However, I would point out that my own support for a member's needs is dependent on that member's support of the Committee in general, and of this bill in particular.
This bill does have very limited increases over fiscal year 2003, or over the budget request, for programs that have always enjoyed strong bipartisan support. Those increases include:
Agricultural Research Service, $39 million above the request.
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, $38 million above last year, and $31 million above the request.
Food Safety and Inspection Service, $30 million above last year.
Farm Service Agency, $33 million above last year.
Natural Resources Conservation Service, $23 million over last year.
Rural Community Advancement Program, $223 million above the request.
Food and Drug Administration, $14 million over last year.
Mr. Chairman, we all refer to this bill as an agriculture bill, but it does far more than assisting basic agriculture. It also supports human nutrition, the environment, and food, drug and medical safety. This is a bill that will deliver benefits to every one of our constituents every day, no matter what kind of district they represent.
I would say to all Members that they can support this bill and tell all of their constituents that they voted to improve their lives while maintaining fiscal responsibility.
The bill is a bipartisan product with a lot of hard work and input from both sides of the aisle. I would like to thank the gentleman from Florida (Chairman Young), and the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), who serves as the distinguished chairman and ranking member of the Committee on Appropriations. I would also like to thank all my subcommittee colleagues: the gentleman from New York (Mr. Walsh); the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Kingston); the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Nethercutt); the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Latham); the gentlewoman from Missouri (Mrs. Emerson); the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Goode); the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. LaHood); the gentlewoman from Connecticut (Ms. DeLauro); the gentleman from New York (Mr. Hinchey); the gentleman from California (Mr. Farr); and the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Boyd).
In particular, I want to thank the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Kaptur), the distinguished ranking member of the subcommittee, for all her good work on this bill this year and the years in the past.
Mr. Chairman I would like to include at this point in the Record tabular material relating to the bill.
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Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
(Mr. BONILLA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, as we all know, we are proceeding with this bill under regular order. I would like to thank the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Kaptur), my ranking member, for once again helping to produce the best bill we possibly could under the circumstances. We were working under some incredible fiscal limitations this year versus last year, and this is a bill that was produced by a subcommittee that has a history of working together.
The last time we had our bill on the floor, we had over 400 votes in support of the bill; and I am very proud of that. I think every member of the subcommittee understands that we try to work with every last person and try to honor every request that they have. We cannot always do everything that everybody wants, but we certainly give it our best shot. This is the year, as many Members know, that we also had to deal with over 2,300 individual requests. That is a lot of requests that our good staff has to keep track of day in and day out as we moved toward this day; and I would like to commend the staff, both the majority and the minority, as they have worked so diligently especially in the last few days around the clock to try to get us to this point on the floor so we could have a good bill to present to the folks.
So I am very proud of this product. Again, nobody always gets everything they want in bills like this, but we certainly have done the best we can.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I will be brief and to the point. This has been a tough budget year. This is a tough bill, but it is a fair bill, and the gentleman brings up some very good points that need to be addressed. But, again, having done the best we can possibly do under the circumstances, I hope that people understand that we wished we could have done more but we were just not able to.
Certainly the accounts that this amendment would increase were not treated unfairly in any way, and this is how they are funded in the bill. For example, the Office of Civil Rights is at last year's level plus increased pay cost. Departmental Administration is at last year's level plus increased pay cost. Hispanic-Serving Institutions is held at last year's level, so there is no cut there, which in this day and age I believe people should be pleased with an outcome like that. The Outreach Program is also at last year's level.
The gentleman's amendment would do the following: It would more than double the Office of Civil Rights, giving that office a 104 percent increase; increase the Departmental Administration account by 5 percent; increase Hispanic-Service Institutions programs by 15 percent; and increase the Outreach Program by a whooping 144 percent.
Let me emphasize that if we had the money to do this we would be doing cartwheels in supporting these kinds of increases, but we are doing the best we can under the limitations we have in putting this bill together.
The money that would be taken from the USDA's Common Computing Environment Account, and while that does not sound like a grand program, let me emphasize that this takes care of the way that a lot of these programs are processed, like the work at the Farm Service Agency, the Natural Resources Conservation Service and the Rural Economic and Community Development Programs. This amendment would take $8.6 million away from USDA's ability to meet those needs, and that would indeed create a lot of hardship out in the heartland.
Mr. Chairman, we worked very hard to present a well-considered and fair bill to the House. I ask Members to stick with the committee and defeat this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, there is not a Member of this body that does not believe in treating animals humanely. However, I oppose this amendment for several reasons:
First, the $800,000 that would go to the Inspector General would go to dogfighting and cockfighting enforcement, and it would cut buildings and facilities funding for rent and maintenance that are already underfunded.
The Inspector General's office has told us that enforcement of this will be done at a minimal level since this is a misdemeanor offense. Now, one could argue the pluses and minuses on whether it should be a more serious offense, but these are misdemeanors that are dealt with by local law enforcement agencies from around the country, and they cannot afford to devote their resources at the IG level because of this reason. The IG tells us that one case alone could cost $800,000.
Second, one of the reasons that we are debating this amendment today is that the Humane Society of the United States points out that this vote will be counted on the Humane Scorecard this year. The only reason that this item is even on their scorecard is that we have addressed all other of their concerns in this bill. We provided a $437,000 increase for animal welfare, $1.1 million more for regulatory enforcement in the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, and fully funded the enforcement of the Humane Methods of Slaughter Act in the Food Safety and Inspection Service.
If the sponsors of this amendment were serious about this, programs that the HSUS supported like the ones that I just mentioned are the ones that would be cut to pay for this amendment, but then that would force them to prioritize like the rest of us have to do.
If every Member of the House brought an amendment to the floor just because they did not get every last nickel that they wanted, we would be here all day and we could never get this bill done.
Finally, Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues to not vote against this amendment simply because I am suggesting that they do, but vote against this amendment because of the following statement by an HSUS Vice President who said, ``The life of an ant and that of any child should be granted equal consideration.''
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, once again the gentleman brings up some very good points in his amendment, but we have done the best we possibly could under the limitations we have this year; and the offset the gentleman is looking at, again, would hurt the implementation of a lot of programs that we have discussed earlier. So for that reason I would oppose this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, there is strong bipartisan opposition to this amendment in this body. It is interesting to note on this occasion when amendments are presented before this body how much misinformation is presented. For the proponents of this amendment to in any way indicate that you cannot put labels on any meat products at this time is absurd. This is a free country.
Any producer, any retailer right now can stick a label that says ``Made in America'' on any aisle in any frozen food section, in any section of the grocery store if they choose to do that.
The misinformation about whether or not this amendment affects mad cow disease is one of those fear-mongering arguments that is often times made in this town and around the country when you are trying to reach people at the emotional level and not at all talking about the truth in substance about the issue at hand.
This country-of-origin labeling on meat products that is in the bill, the prohibition on funding, has absolutely nothing to do with mad cow disease. But again, this argument is being pulled off the shelf to try to scare people into voting for this.
This prohibition that we have put in this bill simply says that USDA will not be able to work on enforcing, promulgating, developing any kind of regulation for a year until there can be more ample study and understanding of the bill.
This country-of-origin labeling provision that was put in the farm bill last year is controversial and costly. Many of our producers out there are shaking in their boots right now wondering about the liability that they would be faced with, the action that could be taken against them by people who would simply hold them accountable for not putting the proper label on their product. It could drive them out of business.
Grocery stores in this country, I do not care what part of the country you live in, if you have got a Safeway, if you have got a, like in Texas, an HEB Food Store or an Albertson's, all of the people who run those grocery stores are opposed to this amendment because they have a tremendous liability laying before them if that product is not labeled appropriately.
So if you are interested, any Member who votes for this amendment that is
being presented by my colleague today would in essence would be voting to increase the grocery bill and create sticker shock the next time Americans go through the meat section in a grocery store. So that is what you would have to face if you vote for this amendment.
The cost of this implementation of country-of-origin labeling has been estimated on the low end so far by those who have been working on this at USDA to be $2 billion. Overall most people agree that that is a very conservative cost estimate; and, in fact, the cost of implementing this would be much, much higher and guess who is going to pay for that, Mr. Chairman? That is why we are completely opposed to this amendment.
This has bipartisan support to be opposed to this amendment. The chairman of the authorizing committee, the ranking member, so many others that are part of the Hispanic Caucus, the Black Caucus, all across the board, again, members of the authorizing committee are also opposed to this. And they are working on this issue, having hearings, trying to deal with this country-of-origin labeling in the appropriate way. We are just asking with the provision in our bill to give them the time to do that.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that all debate on this amendment and all amendments thereto be limited to 50 minutes and that the time be equally divided.
The Chairman is correct.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Goodlatte), the distinguished chairman of the authorizing Committee on Agriculture.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm) as a demonstration of strong bipartisan support in opposition to this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Latham), vice chairman of the Subcommittee on Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration and Related Agencies.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dooley), a Member who is considered an expert in this field.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Texas (Mr. Thornberry) who has a great expertise on this subject.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Hayes).
Mr. Chairman, I have no requests for time, and I continue to reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Once again I want to reiterate that often times in this town, unfortunately, truth and substance are set aside and emotional pleas are made in order to advance a certain cause. The opposition to this amendment is supported strongly. The opposition is strongly supported by thousands, millions of red-blooded Americans out there who are either producers or they are part of the processing of meat. They are running grocery stores in neighborhoods all over the country. They do not want this provision implemented until it can be studied further
and analyzed and done the right way. And again ultimately if this is implemented, the bills at the grocery store, there will be sticker shock in many of the grocery aisles out there as Americans wonder what happened; how did Congress implement such a libelous costly regulation so quickly without even taking the time to do so.
And let us also understand that any producer out there can now put labels on whatever they would like. There is an implication here somehow that there is some prohibition now on putting a label on any meat product. They can do that now today anytime they want. Also the implication somehow that this is going to threaten our food supply, I am delighted that many of the authorizers have stepped forward today in a bipartisan way to state clearly this is about marketing, this is not about any kind of food-safety issue.
This is, again, a 1-year prohibition on implementation or promulgation or developing of any regulations. So, again, the misinformation that has been presented that this is somehow an effort to kill this permanently is misguided. This appropriations bill simply runs for 1 year.
Finally, I would like to state very clearly that the Bush administration, the administration has put out a statement saying that the administration supports the committee's position on country-of- origin labeling for meat or meat products. So there is strong bipartisan support for our position on this issue. Everyone, again, from the chairman of the authorizing committee; the ranking member; the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Ortiz), of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus; the gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. Thompson) of the Congressional Black Caucus, again across the board the widespread support that we have on our side in taking a position I think is very clear.
And, again, if we would look at the substance in truth about what we are debating here, we would hope to defeat this amendment resoundingly.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment and ask unanimous consent to control the 5 minutes in opposition.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Goodlatte), the chairman of the authorizing committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I would thank the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Goodlatte) for making some excellent points in opposition to this amendment. He is absolutely correct.
Over $872 million is the figure that we are under last year's budget. We are $136 million under the budget request. I would ask the gentleman proposing the amendment, is this not enough? We are learning to tighten the belt. We have cut the budget. We are lowering spending on this bill and still trying to deal with the needs in this country, that this country has in the areas of agriculture. So I cannot more firmly state my opposition to this amendment offered by the gentleman from Colorado and would respectfully ask him to withdraw the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, at this time I would just once again state my strong opposition to this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, the gentleman raises some very legitimate points about the need for funding in this area. However, this amendment was presented to us at the 11th hour, and it is not even clear under the language of this amendment how this money would be administered. So we would be delighted to try to work with the gentleman down the road between here and conference to see if we can do something on this. However, at the 11th hour like this, when we are presented with an amendment, I must oppose it at this time.
I yield to the gentleman from New Jersey.
I yield to the gentleman from Virginia.
Mr. Chairman, I am happy to yield.
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, we would be happy to have our staffs work together on that.
Again, just hearing about this amendment at this time, it is not realistic to say we are going to guarantee a solution, but I think that the history that we have on this subcommittee to try to work with Members to work through these problems is real, and we would be happy to do that.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, the purpose of my amendment is to strike a provision from the Conservation Operations account that prohibits the funds in this account from being used to pay for the salaries and expenses of personnel to provide technical assistance for several mandatory conservation programs.
This amendment is in keeping with an agreement that I made with the chairman of the Committee on Agriculture, the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Goodlatte), in hopes that we can ensure that there are adequate funds available for conservation technical assistance. I would point out that the 2002 Farm Bill included an increase of more than $17 billion for conservation programs, but I am committed to work with the chairman to try to come up with the solution to funding of conservation technical assistance.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentlewoman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank the gentlewoman for bringing this matter to our attention. It is a very important issue. We recognize the needs of these institutions to be unique and deserving of additional support. The committee has included report language encouraging the Department to better assist the Land Grant Universities in the insular areas and provide us a report describing what steps the Department is currently taking to meet their unique needs.
I look forward to working with the gentlewoman and delegates to ensure that the needs of the Land Grant Universities in the insular areas are met the best way we possibly can.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that debate on the pending amendment offered by the gentleman from New York (Mr. Ackerman) and any amendments thereto be limited to 30 minutes, to be equally divided and controlled by the proponent and myself, the opponent.
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the distinguished gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Goodlatte), the chairman of the authorizing committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm), the distinguished ranking member of the authorizing committee.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, how much time do I have remaining?
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Goodlatte), the chairman of the authorizing committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself as much time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I simply want to say that I greatly appreciate the points that the authorizers have made today in opposition to this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now rise.