Mr. President, I rise today in support of the President's nomination of Dr. Francis J. Harvey to be Secretary of the U.S. Army. Dr. Harvey was nominated by the President to be Secretary of the Army on September 15, this year. The Armed…
Mr. President, I rise today in support of the President's nomination of Dr. Francis J. Harvey to be Secretary of the U.S. Army. Dr. Harvey was nominated by the President to be Secretary of the Army on September 15, this year. The Armed Services Committee conducted a hearing on Dr. Harvey's nomination on October 6. The committee voted favorably on the nomination on October 7. At that meeting there was some expression in opposition by members of the committee, but the majority of the committee voted in favor.
At the hearing, there was a fair exchange of viewpoints, recognizing that Dr. Harvey is coming to this position from outside of the Department of Defense and has, during the course of his distinguished career, not a specific opportunity to form opinions about some of the key issues that confront the U.S. Army today.
No one should underestimate the challenges that have been faced by the Army and in large measure have been met by the Army under the distinguished leadership of the Acting Secretary of the Army and the current Chief of Staff of the Army. I commend both of them, who are daily meeting the new challenges as they arise.
There will be today in the course of this debate, and I shall await other Members coming to the floor, expressions of opinion different from what I am providing the Senate today so I will wait until such time as they may appear and then seek under my time the opportunity to rebut their views.
At the hearing of the committee on October 6, I indicated that Dr. Harvey has had an extraordinary career--and I underline very extraordinary career--as a business executive with extensive experience leading and managing very large corporate enterprises, particularly program-based organizations involved in the development and deployment of technology and systems.
As the Army goes through its transformation, he will have the opportunity to provide unique decisionmaking ability given his experience in those areas.
Dr. Harvey has a solid record of achievement in the private sector in areas related to transformation, financial management, and contracting which, as I said, will serve him very well if confirmed by the Senate as Secretary of the Army.
At the nomination hearing, as those in attendance will recall, I went to some length to emphasize that there is another side to the Army and that is the human side. I was privileged at one time in my lifetime to be in the Department of Defense and to be Secretary of the Navy. It is not all contracts and negotiations and things of that nature; there is a very strong family side to each of the military departments. I referred to it in that hearing as the human side. That reflects the hopes and aspirations and patriotism of soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and their families.
The family today has an ever increasing role in the life of the uniformed member of that family, be he male or female. Families now are instrumental in the decision process by which members of the military at the time they are up for consideration elect continuing service, to retire, or otherwise step aside and join the private sector. It is often the decision of the family that controls that sailor, airman, marine, as he or she makes that decision.
I urged Dr. Harvey to travel as soon as possible to Iraq, Afghanistan, the Republic of Korea, in order to gain firsthand appreciation for the sacrifice being made by the soldiers and the stress being placed upon them and their families. Soldiers must be confident that the civilian leader of the department he represents is truly aware of their specific meanings and the emphasis on the family role.
The Army is facing a great challenge today for which there are few precedents in a long, distinguished history. Dr. Harvey assured the committee on October 6 he would undertake this mission of familiarizing himself with the people who make up the Regular Army, the Army Reserve, and the National Guard. It is extraordinary, with over 400,000 who have been in this particular cycle of conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq from the Guard and Reserve.
At the hearing, Dr. Harvey committed that he would put people first. He emphasized that even as the Army carries out its responsibilities in the near term, it must also develop a future force that is better able to meet the challenges of this dangerous security environment by implementing the key element of defense strategy. He is committed to this transformation that has been laid down in the years previous by the Secretary of Defense, whom I commend for his undertaking and transforming the Army, and the Chief of Staff who currently serves and, indeed, the accomplishments to date by the distinguished Acting Secretary, Secretary Brownlee.
Before I yield, I will say a few words about Secretary Brownlee. I was privileged to have the services of Secretary Brownlee on my personal staff and as a member of the committee staff. I note that he served as the senior member of the Armed Services Committee staff, chief of that staff, at the time our distinguished late colleague Strom Thurmond was chairman. He was a superb combat soldier. He brought to his work on behalf of the Senate an extraordinary record of a highly decorated officer. He had a tremendous inner confidence in his ability to understand the men and women in the Armed Forces and to understand particularly those who are experiencing the stress of combat, wherever that may be in the world--an extraordinary man: Two Silver Stars, three Bronze Stars, and the Purple Heart. He was a marvelous staff director not only for Senator Thurmond but to me. He is highly revered and respected and always will be by the Senate as a whole.
Many colleagues came up to me during the course of the vacancy at the Secretary of the Army position in expressing hopes that he would be considered. Indeed, I talked to the Secretary of Defense on several occasions about it. On behalf of myself, most particularly, and other colleagues, I advocated consideration be given to him, but the Secretary and the President made a decision. I am urging the Senate to go forward with that decision today and to confirm the nomination of Dr. Harvey.
I will yield the floor as I see the presence of my distinguished ranking member and the Senator from Rhode Island.
Mr. President, I will yield the floor momentarily, but I do thank my colleague for his comments with regard to Les Brownlee.
I remember the privilege I had introducing him at the confirmation hearing before our committee as Under Secretary of the Army. I went back and reread that introduction. I said he represented a tower of strength, dedication, and expertise that few could match. And, indeed, he has shown that in his exemplary manner in handling
the very difficult challenges that have been presented by the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq. I thank my colleague for those remarks.
Mr. President, the distinguished ranking member and I are trying to advise our leadership with regard to a procedural matter. So at this time, I suggest the absence of a quorum and ask that it be charged to both sides equally.
Mr. President, in the interest of accuracy, I wonder if the Senator will yield?
I know you want to be accurate. You are known on the committee as being a very accurate person, but you know the Secretary of Defense did forward the name of Secretary Roche, Secretary of the Air Force, to the Senate. Therein we discovered other situations that dictated in good, common sense that nomination should be withdrawn. But it did show action by the Secretary, and I wanted that part of the record.
Will the Senator yield? He brings up a subject of great importance to the committee. Indeed, I commend the committee as a whole for the manner in which it pursued its look into this situation. We are awaiting what is described as maybe the final report--the Senator is aware of that--which is to be a compendium analysis of previous reports and such other factors deemed relevant.
There is also an outstanding request that I put to General Kern and his group in the course of the hearing that we would like to have them, once again, assess the full meaning of accountability as they use that.
I thank the Senator for raising the question. I assure him it is something I will continue as chairman in the coming Congress. This is a matter which the committee will once again address.
I thank the distinguished Senator. The ranking member was a full working partner, together with all Members of the committee.
Mr. President, before recognizing the distinguished Senator from Colorado, I would like to respond to two issues raised by our colleague from Rhode Island in the course of what I think has been a very constructive debate today.
The first is on the issue of end strength.
Senator Reed has argued that the Regular Army--the active duty force--needs to be larger, and I would agree with him.
In the Ronald Reagan National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2005, signed by the President on October 28, Congress required that the Army increase its active-duty strength by 20,000 soldiers over fiscal year 2004 levels.
The conference report, while noting that in a time of national emergency the President may direct even higher levels, specifically authorized an increase of 30,000 soldiers between 2005 and 2009.
These increased numbers reflect the recommendations of General Peter Schoomaker, the Chief of Staff of the Army, who is a great soldier. He has proven to be a superb Chief of Staff of the Army.
In the committee hearing on General Schoomaker's nomination last year, I recall very well the questions asked of him as to whether he thought that the Army needed to have more soldiers. General Schoomaker responded candidly that his intuition told him that he thought the Army needed to be larger.
He was right. Following his confirmation and appointment in August 2003, he has testified on several occasions about the end strength issues and communicated his views about what needs to be done to ensure the Army is prepared and ready in all respects for its current missions.
The Army laid out a plan to temporarily increase end strength by 30,000 over the next 5 years as it was transforming to ``modular units of action.''
General Schoomaker, for example, testified on November 19, 2003, in a full committee hearing on ``Current Army Issues.'' I questioned him about the force level of the Army, asking General Schoomaker about whether we need additional troops.
His response was that as a result of stop-loss and stop-movement, which currently serves to ensure unit manning and cohesion, the Army was operating with 20,000 more soldiers in the regular Army than in 2002. He went on to emphasize that
the greatest move we can make is to get the proper
utilization of the soldiers within the Army that we have
authorized and we are paying for right now. This is going to
require significant active-Guard and Reserve rebalancing and
significant restructuring of policies that will give us
access to more of the force that we are paying for and
have on hand right now.
General Schoomaker reiterated this point in February 2004 when he testified with the Secretary of Defense on the President's fiscal year 2005 budget. General Schoomaker shared his ``rain barrel'' and ``spigot'' analogy with us in which he noted that because of the Army's current organization and composition, the Army cannot make use of the bulk of its manpower.
General Schoomaker has called for transformational changes in Army personnel planning, such as conversion of billets from military to civilian employees; he has advocated rebalancing of reserve and active skills to improve readiness; he has called for greater numbers of soldiers with essential occupational skills, and implementation of new technology. In doing so, he consistently has argued throughout the past year that precipitous increases in end strength were not the answer to the Army's readiness challenges.
In a recent interview last month, General Schoomaker stated:
We all agree the Army should grow. The issue is how to pay
for it. Right now we have supplemental funding to increase
numbers we're bringing in and retaining. . . . We are growing
through increased accessions and retention. We have grown to
495,000 on active duty, up from 480,000 last year. We are
making the Army as big as we can, as fast as we can. But
paying for it is another issue.
In summary then, three points need to be made:
First, the Army is increasing in size. The Army active-duty strength on September 30 of this year was 499,530. That was about 17,000 above the authorized end strength for fiscal year 2004. The Army is projecting that it will meet the requirement to expand by 20,000 soldiers by the end of fiscal year 2005.
Second, while all agree that the Army is stretched, the Department of Defense has been clear that if the combatant commander in U.S. Central Command calls for more troops, he will receive them.
And, third, the cost of 10,000 additional active-duty soldiers has been estimated to be $1.2 billion. It is essential that budgeting realities be taken into account and that the Army not be required to absorb additional soldiers ``out of hide.'' To do otherwise would undermine General Schoomaker's critically important transformational vision.
I draw to my colleagues' attention that General Schoomaker, the current Chief of Staff of the Army, has addressed this issue. I questioned him in the course of the hearing on November 19 about the force level of the Army. I asked him how he felt about the need for additional troops. His response was that as a result of the stop-loss and
stop-movement which currently serves to ensure unit manning and cohesion, the Army was operating with 20,000 more soldiers in the Regular Army than in 2002.
In a subsequent interview last month, he stated:
We all agree that the Army should grow. The issue is how to
pay for it.
The Senator from Rhode Island raised that point.
General Schoomaker went on to say:
Right now we have supplemental funding to increase numbers
we're brining in and retaining. . . .
I think he has looked at this in a very responsible way, recognizing that the supplemental, hopefully, has cared for the immediate needs of the Army and will provide funds to implement the legislation the committee incorporated in the Ronald Reagan Defense Act of 2004 that we put through.
Also, the Senator raised a question about General Shinseki, and that is one in which I have been increasingly interested through the years. And actually, on this floor, I stated to the Senate that so much has been said about this distinguished officer's career and how he concluded, which I always thought was the regular way, that the Chief of Staff would step down at the conclusion of his term. But others have views about that, and I am not going to get into that.
I would like to put in the Record the colloquy between Senator Levin and General Shinseki on February 25, 2003, when he addressed this question of the forces that could be used or required. It is interesting to go back and read it because I think people have seized on this so often to refer to it as a basis for their observations. But here is what he said. Senator Levin asked the question:
General Shinseki, could you give us some idea as to the
Army's force requirement for an occupation of Iraq following
the successful completion of the war?
Bear in mind, the operation had not even started at that time, and this question was put to General Shinseki after all the chiefs had made opening statements. General Shinseki had put into the record his full statement and then testified in open session to most of that statement.
General Shinseki said: ``In specific number, I would have to rely on combatant commanders' exact requirements,'' which is much what the President and the Secretary of Defense have said each time this issue is up. If the combatant commanders made requests, indeed he, the President, would consider it and, in all probability, meet those requests.
Then he went on. It is very interesting. He is a most distinguished officer, and I share the Senator's views about him. There are moments in our Senate career that we never forget, but I remember in the course of the confirmation of General Shinseki, our distinguished colleague from Hawaii, Senator Inouye, rose and gave one of the most magnificent speeches on the floor of the Senate I have ever heard about any individual in the 26 years I have been privileged to serve here. I share in the full respect for this officer.
Here is what he said again to Senator Levin:
I would say that what has been mobilized to this point,
something in the order of several hundred thousand
soldiers, is probably a figure that would be required.
In other words, it was not a finite statement. It was more or less a generalized statement. He continued:
We are talking about post-hostilities control over a piece
of geography that is fairly significant with the ethnic
tensions that could lead to other problems.
That is showing a lot of foresight.
It takes a significant ground presence to maintain a safe
and secure environment to make sure that people are fed, that
water is distributed, all with the responsibilities that go
along with administering a situation like this.
But he makes no reference at that point that he ever anticipated the level of insurgency, the infiltration of these terrorists from other nations to come in and fuel this fight.
In fairness to him, I think the exact text that he responded to that question, which, again, was referred to by my distinguished colleague, the ranking member, and myself today should be made a part of this Record.
I inquire of the Presiding Officer as to the time remaining under the control of the Senator from Virginia.
And the distinguished ranking member, I believe, has roughly an hour.
I notice the presence on the floor momentarily of our distinguished colleague from South Carolina and, indeed, the current junior Senator from South Carolina. I know the Senate is anxious to hear from both our colleagues with regard to the forthcoming retirement of our distinguished colleague, Senator Hollings.
I also see my colleague from Colorado who desires to speak to the matter before the Senate. I say to the Senate that I think this debate and discussion among the members of the committee as relating to the nomination is about to come to a close, and subject to the ranking member's views, which I ask he provide the Senate at this time, I would like to give--how much time would the Senator from Colorado desire?
I think the Senator from Oklahoma, Mr. Inhofe, wants about 5 minutes. Perhaps 15 minutes on this side, I say to my colleagues, is the remainder of the time we would seek on this nomination.
I certainly would not impose any objection to a colleague wishing to expand the remarks.
Mr. President, I call to the attention of my colleague that this issue of General Shinseki's remarks has been and perhaps will continue to be debated and discussed.
But actually, on the floor of the Senate--and my recollection is it was last fall from this fall in connection with the conference report-- I said to the Senate that I had asked repeatedly of the Army, of members of the Army: Was there any staff work done on this issue of the troop levels required in a post-conflict situation, either in the Department of the Army or in the joint staff? I urged that that be forthcoming and that information be given to the committee.
To the best of my knowledge, no one has come forward to show any staff workup that provided the basis for the General's reply. As I point out, the General did not, in the course of these opening remarks, in a prepared statement, make any reference to that. As a matter of fact, he was supportive of the figure that was in the budget.
Yes.
You address this thing in a very broad context, which you are free to do. I was very specific. When he said several hundred thousand, I inquired as to whether there is any document, either in the Department of the Army or the joint staff, which supported that several hundred thousand individuals would be needed in a post-conflict situation.
Mr. President, at this point I further ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record testimony by General Franks in response to questioning by Senator Levin on this issue.
That concludes the debate at this point. I wonder if Senator Allard and Senator Inhofe--I see Senator Sessions--we are trying, if I might, to acquaint my colleagues who have arrived on the floor--the distinguished senior Senator from South Carolina desires to speak to his forthcoming retirement. The senior Senator wishes to speak to that. Yet this issue has been fully debated by those who have been on the floor. I judge my colleagues here wish to take some time.
If my colleague could indicate that to me, I would like to allocate the time you would like to have.
First, Senator Allard.
Other Senators?
Let's say 5. He is the chairman on the subcommittee for the Army and I think that is important.
I say to the Senator from Oklahoma----
I will leave that to the Senator's judgment. For the moment I will say 7 minutes. Is that agreeable?
Does the Senator from Colorado wish to allow our distinguished colleague from Alabama to proceed?
For that purpose, I ask unanimous consent for the Senator from Alabama, to be followed by the Senator from Colorado, followed by the Senator from Oklahoma, to address the Senate in the confines of the time allocated.
Mr. President, does the Senator from Oklahoma desire additional time?
Mr. President, I yield to the Senator 3 more minutes.
Mr. President, I wish to conclude this debate on the nominee. The nomination will be voted on, I am told, at 5:15, subject to modifications at that time.
I say in conclusion that I think we have had a very good debate on this nomination and also the serious issues affecting the Department of the Army. I think it has been helpful in many respects.
I am prepared to yield back all the remaining time which I have in the debate. I understand the distinguished ranking member is prepared to do likewise.
Mr. President, in that case, I yield the floor with the understanding that the distinguished colleague from South Carolina can now proceed as he desires with regard to a very important set of remarks the Senate is anxious to receive. I say that in all sincerity.
I thank colleagues for their participation in this debate. I strongly urge Members of the Senate to vote for confirmation of the nominee. This particular individual who is nominated to be Assistant Secretary of Defense came before the Armed Services Committee. He was reported out favorably to the floor and had been waiting for some period of time for confirmation to that position. The Secretary of Defense made the decision to resubmit his name in connection with the Secretary of the Army.
I strongly urge colleagues to support this nominee. This is the nomination of the President of the United States.
I yield the floor.