Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. Mr. President, I want to address the sense-of-the-Senate resolution on behalf of men and women in the Armed Forces offered by our distinguished Senator…
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I want to address the sense-of-the-Senate resolution on behalf of men and women in the Armed Forces offered by our distinguished Senator from Kentucky. I ask unanimous consent that I be listed as a cosponsor of the resolution.
Mr. President, I rise to give strong support to this and I want to say against the background--and the other day we had a similar matter before the Senate and I rose to address that. It was a technical problem, primarily, with that resolution. This one, which I have read carefully, in a very straightforward manner, recites the history of personal decorations and theater awards and, in particular, how these matters, throughout the military history of this country, have been actions taken by Presidents upon the recommendation of the senior officers of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and, indeed, the Coast Guard. In this instance, this administration has moved to put in place those recognitions--most deserving, I would say-- of men and women who have gone to the farflung corners of the globe and accepted the risks, together with their families, of going to those areas for the cause of freedom and to protect the security interests of the United States of America.
That region of Iraq is very much in our hearts and minds every day. I have had the privilege, as have many in this body, to go there and visit with our troops. Likewise, I have had the privilege to go and visit with our forces in Afghanistan. Most recently, I went to Liberia, where the strike task force--largely composed of U.S. marines but under the control of a very fine Army officer--performed extraordinary duties on behalf of the people of Liberia, who have suffered a decade-plus of civil war turmoil. I could go on and on, but others are anxious to address this.
The point I wish to make is these decorations are proudly worn on the uniform of the men and women in the Armed Forces. They are coveted items of families for generations. In my office, I have proudly displayed the decoration earned by my father who volunteered as a young Army doctor in World War I to go to France where he served in the trenches. I remember as a young person of his telling stories to me about life in the trenches, the extraordinary devastation he witnessed, the loss of life, and the carnage. But there on the wall was his World War I Victory Medal. It had on it three bars of the three major conflicts. He was proud to wear it on the uniform of the United States when he saw service.
It is a carefully thought through process that we cannot award a separate medal for every conflict. We have to recognize the theater of operations. For example, in World War II, it was the European theater and it was the Pacific theater. There was a medal given to those in the continental limits in training commands. There were three basic theaters of operation, and then stars were awarded for the major conflicts in the theaters of Europe or the Pacific.
It is not a wise course of action to award a separate medal of decoration for each of the many theaters we are engaged in today. Rather, there should be just the principal decoration which, as we say in the final paragraph of this resolution, and I will read that:
It is the sense of the Senate that the Secretary of Defense
should, on an expedited basis, issue the necessary
regulations to implement these awards and ensure that any
person who renders qualifying service to the Armed Forces in
those phases of the Global War on Terrorism, including
Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and
Operation Noble Eagle should promptly receive these awards.
That is a category of awards given primarily for Iraq and Afghanistan and contiguous areas where the men and women of the Armed Forces are serving actually in the front lines or, indeed, in a support phase.
I strongly urge the Senate adopt this amendment. I hope there are 100 votes in recognition of this course of action.
To those who, with the best of intentions, have recommended specific theaters, specific zones, such as Iraq, we then have to think of Afghanistan, we have to think of Liberia, although, fortunately, that was an operation that was successfully performed in a relatively short period of time. I could go throughout the world.
It is better there be theater-of-operations awards and individuals singled out. I know, for example, if I may say, when I was Secretary of the Navy and heavily involved in the subject of awards, I remember so much working with the father of the distinguished Senator from Arizona who was commander in chief of all military forces in the Pacific, ADM ``Jumpin'' Jack McCain. I remember him well. I learned a lot from him.
The Senator from Arizona will recall from his earlier experience how theater recognition is given and then the star to recognize those engagements in which one participated. That is a process carefully supervised by the senior military, primarily the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
I am quite interested in the views of the distinguished Senator from Arizona on this subject. I yield to the Senator.
Mr. President, the Senator is very correct in the recitation of the facts. I add one other perspective, and that is how well the Senator from Arizona understands with his distinguished career the identification of the families with the serviceperson, and should a special award be made for Iraq, think of the families of those who served in Afghanistan, particularly who lost life and limb. They would think: Why is not the sacrifice of our family in every respect equal to the sacrifice of the other families in the Iraqi situation?
Yesterday, or today, the Senator from Arizona and I took to the floor together in a similar colloquy to urge colleagues to let the system work because it is working and it is working in the traditions of our military.
It is working in a manner that is equitably recognizing the performance in this area.
Mr. President, no. Our committee does have jurisdiction over these matters. It was not brought to the attention of myself.
I saw momentarily the ranking member. I do not see him at the moment. To the best of my knowledge, he did not have knowledge of it aforehand.
I thank my colleague. I also add that, very importantly, one very good development resulted from the debate we had yesterday.
I was under the impression that the two declarations to which the distinguished Senator from Arizona made mention were actually in being. I am perhaps remiss. I thought that by now they were in being, but in fact when I went directly to the Office of the Secretary of Defense, and those involved in the process, I found this needed a little congressional incentive. That is the basic reason for this amendment that is laid down today. We have their attention now, and they are going forward with these decorations.
So for that reason, we must say to Senator Bingaman that that was a very fortunate development.
Mr. President, the Senator is correct.
The Senator is absolutely correct. As I said, we have brought this matter and the urgency of it to their attention, and that is one of the very positive results from the efforts of our colleagues on the other side and the initiative taken by the distinguished whip on this side in this amendment.
Mr. President, I thank our distinguished colleague. I have known the McCain family. I served with the Senator's father and have followed the distinguished Senator's career, and it stands in parallel to the finest careers of those who have served in this body in years past, today, and who will serve in the future, who have worn the uniform of this country. So I value greatly the views of the Senator from Arizona and I thank him.
I do not know. I fail to count the number of years. It is 30 plus. But I thank the Senator for his kind remarks. My career is so inconsequential in the U.S. military compared with his. I do believe I received the good conduct medal. To the best of my knowledge, the Senator never received that; did he?
I do not think the Senator was eligible then and he is not eligible now. I think it is likely the Senator will never be eligible.
Well, maybe we should cease this colloquy at this moment. I see others who perhaps would like to speak.
Again, we commend the distinguished Senator from Kentucky for his initiative on this matter. I was somewhat saddened yesterday that we had to have a division of views on what I believe was the best of intentions by the Senator from New Mexico. I think now this is an opportunity for us to shake hands on both sides and move on and resolve this matter.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, may I say to my colleague from New Mexico, with whom I have had the privilege to serve now for close to two decades in this body, and who was a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and a very valued member, that he has gotten this Senator's attention. I appreciate what he is doing to support the pending amendment, and I urge colleagues to do likewise.
If I might say first, while he was not present in the Chamber when I brought to the attention of the Senate that the debate which followed his amendment the other day did bring about this Senator's personal attention on the status of several decorations, I found that it was not moving along, in my judgment, in an expeditious and timely manner. That debate the other day served a very important service to the men and women of the Armed Forces who are engaged in these particular theaters.
I would like to work with the Senator and with the Department of Defense to pursue his thoughts about perhaps additional recognition for service in the theaters of Iraq Afghanistan. I am just not prepared at this time to give a definitive answer.
This is the course, as proposed by the amendment which is before the Senate, which has been followed for years. So many places in the world today have often no geographic boundaries and have no identity. Yet people who are on guard wearing our uniform, coalition forces and other nations, are subject to loss of life and limb in combating that terrorism.
I am not able at this point in time to come up with some definitive suggestion. But I certainly would like to associate myself with the Senator's remarks that there should be an expression of gratitude to those persons serving in these theaters right now for their service and that given by their families. I thank the Senator.
I yield back the remainder of my time.
Have the yeas and nays been ordered?
I ask for the yeas and nays.
Mr. President, I thank the distinguished manager, and I commend the Senate for an excellent debate. I rise today to oppose this amendment that would use loans for much needed reconstruction, and I urge my colleagues to do the same. Seldom do we have choices before us as fundamental as this one. We can truly help the Iraqi people and secure an important opportunity for change in this part of the world, or we can turn our backs and watch this fledging nation drown in a sea of debt. The second choice would represent failure. There is no choice. Failure is not an option. We must go forward; we must stay the course and help the people of Iraq win the peace without conditions.
We have achieved extraordinary success, in a relatively short period, in Iraq. Saddam Hussein and the threat he posed are gone; the future is hopeful for the Iraqi people. We must send a strong message of resolve to our fellow countrymen, to our troops, to our coalition partners, and to the rest of the world, that we will see this through to completion-- to win the peace.
Over the July 4, recess, I traveled, along with eight colleagues from the Armed Forces and Intelligence Committees, to Iraq. During the 3 days we spent in Iraq, we met with Coalition Provisional Authority leaders, military leaders, soldiers, and local Iraqi leaders. Their courage, dedication and determination in a very difficult environment was inspiring. We saw the enormity of the task with our own eyes--the antiquated, dilapidated oil infrastructure; the mismanaged irrigation system; the piles of garbage and open sewers; and the cowed and brutalized, but hopeful people of Iraq. These problems will not be fully fixed overnight, or even with this significant infusion of resources. But, it is an important step forward. We must quickly build on the foundation that has been laid by Ambassador Bremer, his international team, and the Iraqi people, to sustain and accelerate the momentum for building a secure, and economically viable, democracy in Iraq.
Over the past few weeks, I have had the opportunity to meet with several Iraqi leaders. Recently, I met members of the Iraqi Governing Council. We noted the tragic absence of Ms. Akila al-Hashimi, a member of the Governing Council who was scheduled to travel to the United States this week but was gunned down last week outside her home in Baghdad, most likely by remnants of the Ba'athist regime intent on intimidating the new Iraqi leaders. She symbolized the courage, hope, and determination of many Iraqis to build a new, democratic Iraq, even in the face of great personal risk. We mourn her loss, along with the people of Iraq, and we must now renew our pledge to help Iraq establish the security, quality of life, and opportunity to enjoy the liberties of a free, democratic nation. Her colleagues on the Iraqi Governing Council are clearly committed to achieving these goals and deserve our support.
Some have suggested that providing $20.3 billion dollars for Iraqi reconstruction is too generous and that full or partial repayment should be formulated. This notion is borne from the belief that Iraq is a potentially prosperous nation, well-endowed with oil reserves, that should be able to pay for its own reconstruction. I respectfully disagree.
The idea of loans for Iraqi reconstruction, instead of grants, would be a terrible mistake. Iraq already has crushing debt, accumulated during Saddam Hussein's brutal, incompetent reign. Estimates of this debt range from $180 billion to almost $400 billion. Additional debt or encumbrances on future earnings now would be economically disastrous, and send the wrong message to Iraqis and, indeed, the world.
General Jay Garner and Ambassador Bremer have both forcefully argued that Iraq must be granted significant debt reduction or forgiveness. The United States will seek to convince the principal holders of Iraqi loans--Russia, France, Germany and Saudi Arabia--to foregive some of all of these loans. To add additional loans, at the same time we are asking others to forgive loans, would be counterproductive and hypocritical.
Later this month, the U.S. will hold a donors' conference in Madrid to solicit contributions from the international community for Iraqi reconstruction. To ask others to make grants to Iraq after we have structured some or all of our contribution to Iraqi reconstruction as loans would undercut our Government's efforts to obtain international support.
In the conversations with Iraqi leaders I mentioned earlier, they were emphatic in their opposition to reconstruction support being structured as loans, especially if these loans were made in the form of ``liens'' against potential Iraqi oil revenues. They rightfully argued that the Iraqi people and the larger Arab and Islamic world would regard such a move negatively
and conclude that their earlier suspicions that the U.S. was more interested in Iraqi oil than Iraqi liberation were true.
We have an opportunity before us to send a message of full commitment to Iraq and of a balanced, fair U.S. foreign policy in the larger Middle Easter region, by providing this reconstruction assistance as grants to Iraq. A loan program using Iraqi oil as collateral would be viewed as just the opposite, and would be counterproductive to our larger goals and interests in this important region.
There is a perception, I fear, that this supplemental will fully fund Iraq's reconstruction. Nothing could be further from the truth. The reconstruction needs of Iraq are enormous--not because of war damage, but because of three-plus decades of neglect, mismanagement and greed by Saddam Hussein's regime. The fund included in this supplemental will only begin to address these daunting needs, but adoption of this package will put the Iraqis in a much better position to help themselves in the future. The Iraqi leaders I spoke with want nothing more than to do just that, but they need our help for now, not with crippling conditions attached.
Some have compared this supplemental for the reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan to the Marshall plan that funded the reconstruction of Europe following World War II. Most would agree that the investment of our Nation in the Marshall plan has been paid back a hundred-fold.
Some have correctly pointed out that the Marshall plan included loans that had to be paid back and the requirement for matching funds by the beneficiary nations, in some cases. The bulk of Marshall plan assistance, however, was in the form of grants. Students of history, of which there are many in this chamber, will recall, also, that while the Marshall plan began in 1948, it was preceded by a series of programs over a number of years, to provide financial support to meet the immediate needs of devastated European nations, including Germany. In today's dollar, the equivalent of over $100 billion in aid was provided by the U.S. to these nations before the Marshall plan went into effect. Included in this aid was over $35 billion in grants to put these nations in a position to help themselves with subsequent assistance.
The situation is similar in Iraq today. This is a nation crippled by multiple wars, mismanagement, and neglect. The Iraqis are not yet in a position to help themselves, but they can be with our help.
Providing loans to Iraq is an idea that may have merit in the future, but not now. By voting overwhelmingly to authorize the use of force in Iraq, we accepted the responsibilities and challenges of subsequent reconstruction. We must not now shrink from that responsibility. We must first provide the unconditional assistance that will lay the foundation for full reconstruction. That is in Iraq's best interest; it is in America's best interest.
Let us join together to provide the resources that will meet the immediate needs of the Iraqi people and best serve our interests in Iraq and the larger Middle East region. I urge my colleagues to defeat this amendment and send a message to the Iraqi people that we are committed to their liberation and reconstruction unconditionally.
I was very deeply influenced and moved by the Senator from Washington, Senator Cantwell. She hit it. What is the message we send forth from this Chamber tonight?
I must admit, in the briefings and so forth that took place today before the Armed Services Committee, I repeatedly heard, we are not getting the message out in that part of the world about what we are trying to do and the successes we have had to date in helping the people. Consequently, a vote that would carry this amendment will just spread through that world and be interpreted by that press. It will undo so much of what we have been able to achieve thus far in trying to convince that world we are there for their own interests, not for oil, not to profit from a loan or give a loan. It will be misinterpreted as a consequence of a very small amount of funding in this whole $87 billion.
I would like to put a question to my good friend, fellow member of the Armed Services Committee, who is a strong supporter of the men and women of the Armed Forces, a simple question: Does this amendment make the streets safer for the men and women of the Armed Forces tonight, tomorrow tonight, and in the days and weeks to come, together with their coalition partners? If somehow you can convince me this will bring about a greater measure of safety--this is the thing that concerns me above all. The sacrifices being made by the men and women of the Armed Forces, their families here at home, people in the villages and towns who watched them march off to take up their stations in this battle for freedom. I cannot fairly discern any basis that this will help to make the streets safer for the uniformed people now serving in the coalition forces.
I ask that most respectfully of my good friend and distinguished member of our committee.
It should not take very long.
I think the Senator has answered the question. I believe we just have an honest difference of opinion. I think the press in that part of the world will be whipped into a frenzy, with those who will be saying ``we are winning, we are winning.'' That troubles me. I think that will endanger the security of our people in uniform when they are trying to carry out this mission. The press will be whipped up, and this will be the most clear symbolism that those who are against----
They will say it is because we are there for oil, and they will say, oh, they are going to make the Iraqis borrow the money. They don't understand the nuances, the technicalities of a loan, and so forth.
What they will understand is that the Senate did not stand in support of the Commander in Chief, and I am fearful that the press will seize upon this and it will endanger the safety of our people. I say that as a friend and most respectfully.