Mr. President, I thank the leadership on both sides for allowing us the opportunity to get back to the DC appropriations bill, a bill Senator DeWine and I have worked very hard on over the last, actually, several months. We are very proud…
Mr. President, I thank the leadership on both sides for allowing us the opportunity to get back to the DC appropriations bill, a bill Senator DeWine and I have worked very hard on over the last, actually, several months. We are very proud of so many portions of this bill that do such good work for the District, and do so in conjunction with the leadership of the District and the residents of the District. So we are thankful that as it has worked out today, we can actually get back on this bill.
It is my hope, and I think the chairman of this committee shares this goal, since there are a couple of points in this bill that warrant further debate, the most obvious one being the issue of education improvement in the District of Columbia, it would be my idea, and I hope it is shared by my colleagues and even on the other side, that we give as much time to this debate as possible because it is a very important issue, not just for the District but for the whole Nation. As a public policy, we would be hard pressed to find a public policy that is more important right now, other than, of course, national defense and homeland security. I think we all agree the challenge to our public education system is one that continues to warrant our attention.
Tonight it is my intention, and Senator DeWine understands, to speak for a minute about an amendment Senator Carper and I want to lay down at some time, and to talk in detail about what that amendment is. He and I are prepared to talk for maybe an hour about the details of it.
I understand there are other Members who might want to speak tonight. We have no intention, obviously, of having the vote tonight or tomorrow, but we hope next week to proceed with some voting on this very important bill.
The way I would like to start, just for a few moments, though, is to say the reason our amendment would be necessary and other amendments would be warranted is because the debate will show the publicly stated goals, however laudable--and we have read those goals in the newspaper, we have read them in press releases, we have heard the goals stated by the voucher proponents, that the aim of this is to help children in failing schools, poor children in failing schools have options--this debate will show the bill itself does not actually do that. Even with the Feinstein amendment, the bill does not do that.
There is another really puzzling aspect to this. I want to submit something for the record to show why I will say it is puzzling. We received today the Statement of Administration Policy. I would like to read it for the record and then explain why it is confusing. This is the Statement of Administration Policy that was issued today on the DC bill. This policy, not from the House but from the White House, says this: We like the DC bill, basically. I am paraphrasing the first part. The administration looks forward to working with Congress to ensure its priorities and amounts of money are within the overall budget goal.
Additional Administration views regarding the Committee's
version of the bill are, [No. 1], School Choice Incentive
Fund.
The Administration is pleased the Committee bill included
$13 million for the President's School Choice Incentive Fund.
This innovative reform will increase the capacity of the
District to provide parents--particularly low-income
parents--with more options for obtaining a quality
education for their children who are trapped in low-
performing schools. The Administration appreciates the
Committee's support for strengthening the District's
school system and strongly urges the Senate to retain this
initiative.
The puzzling thing about this is the White House has said they support the Mayor's position. The Mayor was on the floor today. Mayor Williams is one of the most honorable people I know. He is a reformer for public education. But I don't know if the White House realizes that is not the Mayor's position.
The Mayor's position is a three-pronged approach: A third for vouchers, a third for charter schools, and a third for improvements to public schools. That is because the Mayor has suggested that vouchers- only is insufficient, and the Mayor has also said some other things about the voucher-only proposal. So I just lay this down.
I ask the chairman if perhaps he could get to the bottom of this. I don't know why the White House wouldn't say we understand the Senate bill has three clear sections on this issue. We like all those sections. We ask you to keep them all in the bill. But it doesn't say that.
I am going to have this printed in the Record. That is why we are going to have a lot of debate on this, because we have to get clear what the administration is really asking for or advocating.
I ask unanimous consent to print the Statement of Administration Policy in the Record.
I would like to start with the Landrieu-Carper amendment that we will offer at some time, and describe again why it is puzzling that we are having difficulty with the administration and the voucher proponents coming to some agreement. I am going to read the simple text, and without any rhetoric or signs or charts or anything, I am going to read the text of it because it is quite simple. I want the people who are listening--and, of course, there is alot of interest in this--to understand what basically has been rejected.
Before I do that, I will give a very brief history of how we got here because it will help to set this debate.
Three years ago we were in what I would call a quandary in public education in the Nation. That quandary was this: Our schools were improving but not fast enough. We had a lot of kids who needed help. We really had to do something.
There were a group of people who wanted to give up on public schools and go to vouchers and say we can't, we tried, nothing is working, let's go to vouchers. There was a group of people who said no, what we need is just more money, the same thing, pump the money in and more resources will do it.
Both proposals were rejected. They were rejected by a broad-based coalition of Democrats and Republicans who rejected both. We said no to vouchers which will undermine public schools; no, vouchers will not work. And, no, just dumping more money in the system, as much needed as the money is, just dumping money is not going to help.
We found a third way called Leave No Child Behind which the President himself led. Many of us were proud to work with him to do that. We crossed party lines. Republicans went to the Democratic side. Democrats went to the Republican side. There were great coalitions forged to get that done.
Here we are not even 2 years into Leave No Child Behind and there are still grumblings on both sides. You can understand why. The money we promised isn't forthcoming. So people have a legitimate argument. They say: We haven't received the money. I understand. I keep saying: Let us go forth.
I know people want vouchers. No matter what we do, they want vouchers. They want them yesterday, today, and tomorrow. That is just what they want.
Here we are with Leave No Child Behind. One would think if the administration wanted to prove something, they would try to prove it anywhere in the country--the District, New Orleans, Louisiana, Ohio-- that Leave No Child Behind could work.
There is some confusion. From my point of view, I think what would come out of the President's proposal is something like this: I am sorry. We are short of money. I am sorry. We can't fund everything that we thought we could fund, but let me just give enough money to the District of Columbia, which is a city and a symbol, and let me fully fund Leave No Child Behind. Let me double the amount for charter schools. Let me push contracts for public schools. Let me increase tutorial services. Let me have afterschool and let us implement early childhood education.
As a person who helped write the bill that laid those principles down, that is what I would fully expect. I would have stood shoulder to shoulder with him, and I would have said with the Mayor's help, with the Congresswoman's help, with the Republicans' help and the Democrats' help, let us show the country what we meant when we passed the bill. They don't believe it. Neither sides believes it. So let us show them what we meant. Instead, we get the same old, tired, worn out, inadequate vouchers--vouchers, vouchers.
Mr. Carper, the Senator from Delaware, and I, and others who worked very closely, think we are not hearing correctly. We think this couldn't possibly be. So we tried. The chairman could not have been more gracious. We tried. We think maybe it is something we don't understand. So we tried to talk. The talks aren't going very well.
So we think: Let us just put it down in an amendment form and see maybe if we are missing something. This is our amendment. I will read for the Record what the gist of the amendment is because it is very simple. Tomorrow I will have this blown up so when I speak on it next week people can see what it is.
This is what we said. Even though you don't want to fund title I in the District, you don't want to double the amount of charter schools, you don't want to have private contracts which the law allows, you don't want to increase tutorial services, you don't want to have afterschool, you don't want to have early childhood, we will just take what the administration thinks--or what the voucher proponents think-- and we will just go back to see if we can make vouchers work.
We say: OK. We will do a couple of things. If you will agree that the same children will take the same test because the administration was very strong on tests--they wanted the same test--that took a little work but we finally got the same test.
Then they said last year that it is very important for teachers in public schools to have a college education. That was a big deal. We said, yes, at a minimum. They can have alternative certifications but you have to have a college education. Let us have a college education for teachers who would be teaching students using public money to go to private schools. That has been agreed to.
Because one of the problems with this debate is that nobody has the research to tell whether it really works or not--we agree with that--we said, let us have a very rigorous evaluation so that after 5 years we would know for sure, I mean for positive.
Let me speak for a minute about this. The Milwaukee program has been going on for 13 years. There are 11,000 children in vouchers and there are 89,000 children who aren't in vouchers. The Senators from that State can talk more about the details than I can. But what I do know about it is many studies have been conducted, and there is still no definitive data that I have been able to find--that anybody has been able to find--about whether those children are doing better academically. There is some evidence to suggest that
some parents are happier and more satisfied. I acknowledge that. That is very good.
I remind this body that we did not start down this road to make parents happy. That is not what the President said. We want parents to be satisfied. We want parents to be satisfied, but that is not the goal. It is desirable. But the goal is a quality education with public accountability because public dollars are being spent. We don't know after 13 years.
We said: OK. Let us have an evaluation component. The evaluation component in this bill, to date, is inadequate to, even after 5 years, give us those answers, and we think that is a real problem.
This is the most important. All of these are important, but this is really the telling portion of why I think we are at a real standstill and a crossroads.
We said in our amendment that you say you want to limit this or you want to help children who are in a trap. That is what this says. I want to read it again. This is the administration's policy. This is for children who are trapped in low-performing schools, which would mean trapped in failing schools. That is what we can do in Leave No Child Behind. We said no more of this. You have to be good. If you are not good and you are a failing school, you need improvement or you have to close and be reconstituted. We said let us limit it to children in failing schools. That is part of our amendment.
The word back so far is, no, I am sorry we can't limit this to children in failing schools because we want this to be available to children in all schools.
The sixth provision that we asked is to make sure all the civil rights laws which are required in Leave No Child Behind are adhered to. The other side said that wouldn't be a problem. We assumed that would be fine. But it is not in this bill.
The other part of our amendment says make sure the scholarship itself--whether it is $7,500 or $3,500 or $1,000--is sufficient to actually get a child by lottery from a failing school into another school. The school can't discriminate. The child gets to go. But that language was rejected.
I don't know what the other side is thinking. If a school costs $15,000 and the voucher is only worth $7,500, we can't figure out how that child gets to the school if their voucher is only worth $7,500. We wanted to make sure that the voucher would be received as payment in full so a parent couldn't be told: We would love to take your child into the school but your voucher is only worth $7,500 and we need $15,000. I am sorry. Our private scholarship fund is out of money. We would love to help you, Ms. Jones. We really know that your two sons would do great in our school. We would love to give them vouchers. You can either have a bake sale or raise money from your neighbors or go into your savings account, but we can't put up the other $7,500.
Senator Carper and I thought it would be reasonable to say the voucher--no matter where you get the money--has to get the kid in the school.
The seventh thing we asked was--because this White House, when we were debating Leave No Child Behind, insisted on yearly progress reports for children in public schools--we would like to craft a way to make sure these 2,000 slots available that we are talking about, where they take the same test that has been agreed to--we would have these yearly progress reports as defined by Leave No Child Behind. The same reports, no difference. No, I am sorry, we can't do that. We cannot have yearly progress reports. So, again, accountability is out the window.
And finally, our amendment said, OK, we do not believe this should be a Federal mandate. We are being told by the voucher opponents, that the city wants this; it is the choice of the city. I said, fine, remove the language that makes the money contingent because in committee I asked the Senator handling the bill if he could just state for the record: Does Mayor Williams have a choice? In other words, in order to get any money, does he have to take the voucher money? To get any money, does he have to take vouchers? The answer was yes.
I and others strongly opposed forcing any city, anywhere, at any time, being held hostage by voucher opponents that would say: We are happy to give you $40 million; we are glad to give you $20 million; we are glad to give you $8 million; but you have to institute a voucher program. And not just vouchers for children in failing schools, but you must have a voucher program for children in all schools.
That proposal will not pass with much Democratic support, let me assure Members.
This has been rejected today. Maybe cooler heads will prevail. The Senator from Delaware and I are still open to discussion. Why? I would stay here all night, all next week, all next month, all next year. My children are home; I would like to get home. His children are home. But that is how important this education reform is for this country. It was a hard fought victory and a wonderful victory and a powerful victory.
The ink is not even dry and we are talking about undoing it, unraveling it, undermining it. I don't understand it.
Senator Carper will talk, and then I will finish with a few more comments about our amendment. I would like Senator Carper to explain from his perspective what our amendment hoped or sought to do.
Mr. President, I thank the Senator from Delaware who, as usual, has described beautifully his position and the position which several of us on this side, who are cosponsors of the No Child Left Behind Act, believe in strongly. I would like to add to what he said briefly by referring to what President Bush, 2 years ago in August, as we were preparing for this debate, wisely said:
Accountability is an exercise in hope. When we raise
student standards, children raise their academic sights. When
children are regularly tested, teachers know where and how to
improve. When scores are known to parents, parents are
empowered to push for change. When accountability for our
schools is real, the results for our children are real.
This would be part of the Landrieu-Carper amendment that was, in essence, rejected. So it becomes a question, Is it just accountability for taxpayer money when it comes to public schools but not taxpayer money when it goes to private schools? Again, let me say, if we started out on this course with a goal, the only goal being parental satisfaction, we should never have started, because no amount of money in the Treasury will ever make every parent in America happy. It would be a false, foolish journey to that end.
That wasn't why we started. We started to say the public money, if spent and managed correctly, could provide a very good education measured by academic performance. And along the way, if we could increase parental satisfaction and taxpayer confidence, that would be the best we could hope for. Yet proponents want to twist that debate, forget the accountability piece, and just keep saying: If parents are happy, we have accomplished our goal. That is not our goal. We want parents to be satisfied, but that is not our goal.
Accountability is an exercise in hope. When we raise student standards, children raise their academic sights. When children are regularly tested, teachers know how to improve. When scores are known to parents, parents are empowered to push for change. When accountability for our schools is real, the results for our children are real and the taxpayers get their money's worth. That is what this issue is about.
I will close, because my chairman has been very gracious, with a quote from another President, John Kennedy, on a similar subject.
I thank, again, my chairman, who has been more than gracious in terms of the time on this, and his staff. The two of us can come to a lot of agreements. It is just other Members, other interests. So we will soldier on. But I just want him to know that he continues to have my greatest respect as we work through this very important debate.
Let me close with a quote from a former President on another equally urgent matter to sort of capture my disappointment. I am not angry, but I am disappointed. President Kennedy, many years ago when our Nation was faced with being left behind in the space race, as we are challenged today being left behind in public education, to marshall the forces necessary to achieve the goal at that time, which was to win the race to space and put a man on the Moon, said:
We possess all the resources and all the talents necessary.
But the facts of the matter are that we have never made the
national decisions or marshaled the national resources for
such leadership. We have never specified long-range goals on
an urgent time schedule, or managed our resources and our
time so as to ensure their fulfillment . . .
Let it be clear that I am asking the Congress and the
country to accept a firm commitment to a new course of
action--a course which will last for many years and carry
very heavy costs . . . [but] if we were to only go halfway,
or reduce our sights in the face of difficulty, it would be
better not to go at all.
He was right. We didn't go halfway; we didn't go part of the way. We didn't go for 2 years and then say I am sorry, we made a mistake, let's go to another proposal. We stayed the course and, because of that, less than 8 years later, we landed a man on the moon. In June in 1969, 8 years and 1 month after the speech, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon and Neil Armstrong said, ``One small step for America, one giant leap for mankind.''
Mr. President, I will tell you as firmly--as I represent the people of my State--and as strongly as I can express
it, if we would stay the course, we would meet the goal. If we would marshal the resources, we would meet the goal. But this debate, getting us off course, going in a different direction, undermining what we are doing and underfunding what we are doing, will never get us there. That is what this debate is about.
I thank the chairman for allowing us to talk tonight. We will proceed with this debate over the course of the next week until we can come to some agreement as to how to proceed.
I yield back my time, and I thank the Senator from Ohio.
Mr. President, did the Senator know--and I fully appreciate his position and I most certainly understand that even as the powerful chairman he is, he is not able, of course, to make those confirmations. I also know there are powers that can make such arrangements, and the chairman is well aware of that. So we offer this amendment in good faith, recognizing that if there truly is a view or a desire to create a real, accountable pilot for children in failing schools in the District of Columbia that would show definitively whether it works or not in 5 years, that meets the parameters of Leave No Child Behind, that could be something that could be reached. That is what my intention would be. That is not the position of every single member of the Democratic caucus. So as ranking member, I will also represent their position. But at this point, we don't see the possibility of that. I thank the chairman. I understand his position.
We look forward to continuing to lay down amendments that will try to improve and perfect this proposal, or eventually to strike the language and try to move on a bill without any reference to the voucher proposal.