Is the Senator finished? I notice she is still standing. I don't think there is any agreed-upon order. Is it correct that the Senator from New Mexico may proceed on the hour in opposition to the amendment at this point? Mr. President, I…
Is the Senator finished? I notice she is still standing.
I don't think there is any agreed-upon order.
Is it correct that the Senator from New Mexico may proceed on the hour in opposition to the amendment at this point?
Mr. President, I have a number of Senators on this side of the aisle who wish to speak, and they certainly are going to have their turn. I thank the occupant of the chair for being here this morning.
Obviously, this is an issue that some people think is very important to the State of Alaska, and there is no question that it is. But this is an issue that is important to the American people. Every day Americans are worried about our future. We just saw hurricanes in the States of Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi shut down oil production in that part of the Nation. All of a sudden, America found out that when we have that much less oil--the amount that the hurricanes took off the market--everything happens for the worst for America.
I want to start with a simple proposition. The minimal amount expected to be received by the U.S. people from ANWR is about equivalent to all of the oil that was shut down by the hurricanes. Just think of that. Everybody was listening to televisions were talking about and, newspapers were printing all of the oil rigs onshore and offshore that produce energy for America that were shut down causing this enormous problem for America. One estimate is that ANWR will yield that much oil or more, which is a pretty good starting point.
I am not going to go into much detail about this ANWR language that was produced by the Energy and Natural Resources Committee in response to a budget request made by the full Senate, and I am not going to talk about the $2.5 billion estimate, other than to say I do not believe anybody is going to challenge it successfully before the Senate. It has been arrived at by the Congressional Budget Office, the authenticator of numbers for the Senate. That number is not dreamt up. This is not the White House, this is not the Energy Committee, this is not the Alaskan Senators; this is the Congressional Budget Office, an independent entity that is supposed to do estimates that we assume should be used by us.
They say the legislation, as drafted, will produce at least $2.5 billion over the period of time recommended by the budget instructions.
That makes it relevant to the budget reduction bill that is before us. It will, when it happens, because of the bids that will be made, reduce the deficit by $2.4 billion. That makes it relevant to a big deficit reduction package of all of the actions that exceeds $39 billion.
Having said that, let me then say, since it is important and it is relevant
and it will yield revenues to the Federal Government, the next point I wish to make is how many votes are going to be required to pass this ANWR legislation. This is a majority-vote situation. Some say: Oh, this is not the right way to do it. We should leave it under what they call the normal proceedings. Normal proceedings would, I say to the opposition, require 60 votes, and we have done something that will only require a majority vote.
I ask the American people who are listening and those who are concerned about this, What do you as Americans expect the Senate to do when they are voting on a measure that affects the American people? Since your first and early days of being educated about the American system, did you not assume that a majority of Senators voting would pass a measure in behalf of the American people? Isn't that what we thought was the rule, 51 votes wins? They say: No, you shouldn't let this great reserve of oil that belongs to us, that we ought to use, you shouldn't let 51 votes pass it. You ought to use 60 votes under some filibuster rule.
The rules of this Senate say you do not filibuster this kind of bill. You go back to the old American way of voting, and 51 votes prevail.
I hope, finally, after decades of work, that we are rid of the 60- vote impediment to getting these assets, these reserves, these resources opened up for our people, and we are back to the old- fashioned 51-vote approach, and that finally America will say: These are our resources, they belong to us, and we ought to go up there and, under as strict environmental laws as can ever apply, because they are the American laws, produce oil there.
To put it in perspective as to how much property we are going to affect, if this bill, as propounded by the Committee on Energy, is passed by this Senate, we will use up to 2,000 acres. It will not be in one place. It will be in various places, but it will be 2,000 acres.
Mr. President, that is 2,000 acres out of a refuge that is being talked about regularly as something that we should preserve and keep for posterity, and this Senator--and I believe everyone who favors ANWR--says: Amen, preserve it.
How big is it? It is 19 million acres. And 2,000 acres, I say to the Senator from Illinois, are going to be used. The refuge is 19 million acres. I don't want to draw conclusions from that. People can see themselves, 2,000 acres. Or can they? I guess you can't even see it. Mr. President, 2,000 acres out of 19 million acres is hardly visible.
We can see the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge on this chart. The ANWR Coastal Plain is in green. The proposed development is that little tiny red square. I don't know if the TV cameras are good enough to see it, but that is the 2,000 acres, 3.13 square miles. It is on the green piece on the chart. That is the size of a piece of real estate out of that entire area--the green, the yellow, and the orange--that will be used for the production of oil out of ANWR.
I cannot believe the American people--if they understand after this debate is finished that that is what we are talking about--could conceivably believe that this vote should fail today and we should continue to say: Everything is wonderful in America. We can get our oil from Saudi Arabia. We can get it from Mexico. We can get it from around the world. But don't bother to get it from America. It is just not what we ought to do.
This country of ours has become dependent on our own States getting 80 percent of our oil from four States: Texas, 22 percent; Louisiana, 21 percent; California, 18 percent; and Alaska, 20 percent. That is just the way it is.
So, fellow Americans, our future, as far as American production, is tied to those States. We do have some new finds in the West, and they are exciting, but they are not going to be anywhere close to this.
Incidentally, mentioning Texas, some people say this is not very much oil. I heard somebody mention that the 10 billion barrels that are going to be produced there is not very much. Let me tell you how much it is: It is equal to the reserves of Texas. So for those who think it is not very much, maybe we ought to say to the American people the entire production of Texas is not very much. Maybe we could say we don't need the oil from Texas. If we go out there and find we don't like the way it is produced, just shut it down. It isn't important. There would be absolute turmoil in this country if somebody said, Take the oil from Texas and close it down, we don't need it; it is just what Texas produces, and we don't need it.
So the American people understand, when this 2,000 acres is producing, it is estimated by reliable estimators that it will cause the reserves under the ground to be the equivalent of those in the State of Texas. That is a pretty big piece of the oil future of the United States.
Let me talk a minute about a couple of other things that happen when you open ANWR. First, in the United States these days, we are all wondering what is happening to American jobs. How come everything is going overseas? How come the American working man, the American construction worker who used to make good money--how come there is not enough work in that field? How come big construction projects are not being done here anymore? How come it is just reported that out of the over 400 chemical plants that are worth more than $1 billion, each that is being built in the world, one of them is being built in the great United States of America and the rest of them all over the world? We are asking ourselves, What is happening to our country? What is happening is we do not develop our own resources, and thus they are developed elsewhere and there are no jobs in America to produce what we have.
I have another chart here behind me, and then that will be all that I will use. This is one prepared by the Wharton School. Some will say, and I will answer before they do, that this chart was produced a few years ago. It was. But do you know what Wharton School did when they produced it years ago? They used $55 a barrel. People on the floor of the Senate said: Throw it way. At $55 a barrel, they have to be wrong. We just asked them 2 years ago: Would you please bring it current? They said: Now we know we are right. We estimated $55, and I will tell you today it is $59-plus on the market in the United States. So the Wharton study is certainly as good as we can get.
Look what it says. If you develop ANWR, the United States of America, for Americans, will produce 128,000 manufacturing jobs; mining, including oil--all high-paying jobs--84,000; trade, 225,000 in various trade activities; the service industry, 145,000; construction per se, 135,000; and then a combination of finance, real estate, and others, which is that FIRE, 19,500. The total is 736,000 jobs.
Has anybody produced such a bill on the floor of the Senate? We say let's have a jobs bill. We introduce a bill to train people who are unemployed so they can go to another job. We introduce a bill that says when people are laid off, we will train them for another job, and this will produce a big number of jobs. Has anybody ever introduced a bill, had a proposal, made a suggestion, argued in favor of--anything on the floor of the Senate that could produce 736,000 jobs, new jobs for the people of the United States? Of course not, because we do not produce jobs in the Senate. We don't produce them with bills, either, job training bills. We produce them when we do things or eliminate things that cause entrepreneurial investment activity that produces wealth, and with wealth, jobs.
That is what we have here, no doubt about it. At $50 a barrel, which is the Wharton study, that is what it will yield. Anybody who thinks that by the time we get to ANWR it will not be $50 a barrel and it will not yield this I believe is hiding under their Senate desk as they vote no here in the Senate as far as ANWR is concerned.
Having said that, I want to take 3 minutes and tell the Senate about an experience I had. I went to Alaska, after many years. My friend, the occupant of the chair, and our new Senator from Alaska recently pushed me to do it. I went in about March of last year. It was awfully cold. I know that. I have one great picture--I cannot believe I survived.
But what I saw, every Senator who is against this proposal ought to honestly go see what is going on. There is one production pad called Alpine. In its completed stage, it is 60 acres of property. In its completed stage, it is 60
acres. On that 60 acres is the production capacity for 150,000 barrels a day. Got it? That is 150,000 barrels a day. The 60 acres, when we saw it, was solid ice. It had oil wells on it that were drilled, many of them, in less than 1 year, all close together, many of which were vertical and horizontal, meaning you drill a well down and then go out sideways and you go out for 3 or 4 miles, 5 miles. When we get around to ANWR, they are going to be drilling out 10, 15, 20 miles. So from one piece of real estate which we are worried about we will get literally scores of underground wells producing oil that is coming to the surface, unified, and then put in a distribution facility and delivered.
All of that work will be done in the dead of winter--the trucks, the tractors, the moving things, the supplies, all come on winter roads. We were there, so we could see the winter roads.
When the summer comes, the ice melts, the roads disappear, the tundra is right back where it was, and Alpine, the 150,000-barrel production wells are there, covered by whatever covers them from the weather, and out comes a spout from which the oil goes on stakes that hold up the pipeline, and there it is, delivered to a source to go to be used by Americans as they need oil to live, survive, make a living, and keep up their standard of living.
Some say we should not be dependent upon crude oil and carbons in the future. I submit there is nobody suggesting that we know how to get off of the transportation system we are currently using, in the short term. We are going to be on that for some time, even when we engage in the largest program we can, in terms of new ways to get our mobility, whatever it is--maybe hydrogen engines. It is going to take us many years, during which time we are going to import oil from overseas in huge quantities and send American bounty to foreign countries, greatly increasing our foreign trade balance, by the billions of dollars, all because we send our money overseas to acquire oil.
I beg the Senate to once and for all do the right thing regarding our future. Say no to sending more of our resources overseas. Say no to fewer jobs for the American people for the future. Say yes to the unions of the United States that represent these workers who are here en masse, begging us to pass this so they will have jobs. Say yes to American business that is frightened about our competitive future, and say at least we are going to take one step forward, not another step toward complacency, toward not caring about our future and standing on principles that are not applicable today.
We know how to drill for oil without damaging the tundra, without damaging the surface to any significant degree. We ought to say yes, today, to a very good budget reduction bill which in its totality will reduce the budget $39 billion--not a little pittance--of which ANWR will yield $2.5 billion. That is not too shabby a number.
It will require 51 votes for those who want to take this out. In the end, we will need 51 votes to pass the bill. I believe that is fair. It is such a huge resource for America. It should be passed or denied not by 60 votes but by 51 votes, the majority vote in the United States. Argue as you may in opposition to this. This is not the way to do it. Then what do you say the way to do it is? To require 60 votes? Who ever heard of that as an American principle? That is a procedure that does not apply here. The Senate has said it doesn't apply here. The old American way of 51 votes applies, and that is why we are here.
I want to close in one rebuttal. We are going to hear a lot that this oil doesn't do much. Whenever the amount of oil produced is equated to the total American picture, I want to answer it this way: Accepting a mean calculation of 10.4 billion barrels of oil in ANWR, it would supply every drop of oil for the entire State of Florida for 29 years. Hear that, the entire State of Florida for 29 years; the entire State of Arkansas for 146 years; Hawaii, 249 years. We will not be using oil that long, but people should surely get an idea that this is a pretty significant resource for our country.
I thank all those who helped put this bill together in our committee. I hope sometime during the day we will have a vote and it will be a vote where we say, for a change, we believe in America's future and we are going to do something about it.
I yield the floor.
Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. President.
How much time remains?
Senator, you have 26. We have 3. I would yield the floor, hoping that you all would speak, if you have more opposition. You have plenty of time. We don't have but 3 minutes.
Mr. President, I have only 3 minutes remaining, but I want to yield that 3 minutes to Senator Sununu, and then I will yield the floor for the other side to continue.
We understand it, and there is no objection.
Reserving the right to object, I want to ask a question. With reference to the pending amendment, would you refresh my recollection here, Senator Talent has a right to offer an amendment?
Is that the time in which it would be debated?
We have no additional time. Has that been checked with him?
I am not sure.
I reserve my right to object only because I am not sure that is what he wants.
Is there any way the Senator can fit it in later on for 10 minutes?
Is that the only other amendment in the list that applies to ANWR? On that list?
Even though Senator Cantwell has an extra 5 minutes, is it all right that we go and the Senator accumulate that time?
I yield myself 3 minutes, and then I will yield the management of the time to the senior Senator from Alaska for the remainder of our time.
I want to respond to one of the issues raised by pointing to the map here. I have conferred with the Senator from Alaska and others about this Coastal Plain. If you see, it is in green and you see these words, it says:
Not wilderness. Creation of the coastal plain oil and gas
exploration area.
This little box is within that, 20 acres. It is not within a wilderness area. It is not a wilderness. It was established by President Eisenhower, and contrary to what was said on the floor, it was done that way for the very reason it was thought to have an abundance of natural resources; to wit, oil and gas. Therefore, it was set aside for an exploration area, the future use of which was to be determined by the Congress.
Isn't that interesting? Contrary to what has been said, we are doing exactly what President Eisenhower's set-aside intended. It intended it to be an oil and gas exploration area, for that purpose, to be determined in the future. By whom? Us. The very thing we are doing here.
My last observation: For anybody in the United States who is worried about America and its natural gas future, its natural gas price that is going through the roof, that this particular winter Americans are going to be terribly upset when the price goes up dramatically, with gasoline at the pump so high. It was a month ago that Americans were beginning to worry about their future. It is interesting to note that the State of Alaska, one of ours--not Russia, not some country that we don't know about--actually contains sufficient natural gas that if we would have been on our toes, we would have had sufficient natural gas from our own State to where this crisis would not be occurring.
There are a lot of reasons. But one of them is the constant carping that we can't do it because of environmental reasons, when we can. We know how to do it. We do not have to destroy the wilderness. We don't have to destroy the tundra. But if we keep doing what we are doing, we can destroy our economy. That is the issue.
I am pleased to be part of this. I hope we will vote before the day is out on this issue, and we will finally prevail. I yield the floor.