Mr. President, I wanted to pick up where I was before lunch. I am glad to see my good friend from Ohio. We were having conversations before lunch on this bill. Clearly, it is an important piece of legislation. As Dr. Coburn and I said…
Mr. President, I wanted to pick up where I was before lunch. I am glad to see my good friend from Ohio. We were having conversations before lunch on this bill. Clearly, it is an important piece of legislation.
As Dr. Coburn and I said before lunch, I think every Member of the Senate, I think every Member of Congress, and probably everybody in the country believes it is important that we cover children; that the prevention and wellness aspects of having coverage means we have a healthier community; that we take those who, by the way, are historically more healthy, younger folks, and we give them the assurances of check-ups and the ability to visit a doctor so that we minimize anything that can happen to them. In 1996 and 1997, the Senator from Ohio and I were both on the Energy and Commerce Committee. We were involved in crafting the original legislation. I remember it today as well as I do then. The legislation was targeted at a specific group of our country's children: those over 100 percent of poverty whose families made too much for Medicaid but those with not enough income between their parents to be able to afford health care at the time.
My gracious, health care has done nothing but get more expensive since 1997. We appropriated and authorized $40 million for a 4-year program. The target--I can't remember what the target was for the number of kids--but today, at 100 percent of poverty for a family of four, they would have an income of $22,000. At $22,000 they apply for Medicaid, regardless of what State they live in, and health care is provided under Medicaid for that family.
As Dr. Coburn pointed out, I think rather clearly, for Medicaid and SCHIP today, we have probably eliminated access to about 40 percent of health professionals because they choose not to
participate in the programs. Why? It is because the reimbursements are so pitiful in those two programs, regardless of the State. Doctors have chosen to opt out of providing that care and focus just on the Medicare and private market or just on the private market.
So just the creation of Medicaid and SCHIP means we have eliminated some choices for these people where this coverage is their only option, it is their safety net. Now, if I had my druthers, I would rather be here debating overall health care reform because I believe every American should have the ability to be insured.
I am not sure I would have much disagreement in Congress or in America on that. We will have a big disagreement on how we get there, but we can get there. Were we to have that debate today, we would not be here talking about the expansion of one program that hits a small group of Americans and is targeted to put them in a one-size-fits-all program that only 40 percent of the health care professionals even participate in.
Now, having said all of that, SCHIP is up for reauthorization. We are now 10 years down the road, and we are talking about, How do you change this bill to apply what we have learned? Can we reach new efficiencies in cost? Can we cover more people? If so, how? Which States have done well? Which states can we learn from? Which have done poorly? Which states should we work with in the legislation to try to prod?
Well, we find in this legislation that in 10 years, we have moved from 200 percent of poverty to 300 percent of poverty. I do not have any big disagreement with that, with the rise in health care costs. Three hundred percent of poverty for a family of four is $66,000 a year.
So under this program--SCHIP currently, not under the reauthorization bill--if a child lives in a household that has an income of $66,000, above $22,000, they are eligible in several states for SCHIP today.
So what is our experience so far? As we get ready for this reauthorization, we have 7.4 million children enrolled in SCHIP in 2008. But the average monthly enrollment for 2008 was 5.5 million, meaning that somewhere, somehow we have had almost 2 million drop out. They have moved to a different State. The income of their family changed. They are no longer eligible. So 5.5 million covered children today seem to be sort of the fixed point.
Well, how many are eligible today but not covered? I think my colleagues would be amazed to find out it is 5.4 million. We are covering 5.5 million, but we are not covering 5.4 million who are eligible under today's guidelines.
So in typical Washington response, what do we do? We come out with a reauthorization that expands the eligibility. Already we have in place a waiver where New Jersey can currently go up to 350 percent of poverty. Well, what is that? That is $77,175. Now in the reauthorization bill, we are going to grandfather the 350 percent, and we are going to go up to 400 percent for New York. What is 400 percent? Well, that is $88,200. How do those 5.4 million who were eligible before get enrolled? Well, the answer is, they are not. This is what Dr. Coburn was talking about. How about the kids nobody is going out to enroll? Do auto enrollment. It is easy.
But that is not what this bill is attempting to do. This bill is attempting to increase the eligibility to get a bigger slice of America eligible for Government programs so that at some point the number of folks who are on Government programs--Medicaid, Medicare, SCHIP, VA, the list goes on--is well over 50 percent of America, and then the die is cast. We go to a single-payer system. The Government runs it, the Government tells us how much we get, the Government tells us where we go, and the American taxpayer pays for everybody.
Now, here is the decision the Senate has--the House has already voted this bill out. We have a decision whether we are going to stand up for those 5.4 million. Those are the tough ones. Those are the ones who did not walk into the door and raise their hand when their parents were told they were eligible and say: I want to enroll. I would like health care. I would like prevention. I would like a primary care doctor. I would like a medical home. No, they are the 5.4 million children who are out there to whom no State is reaching out. They are just letting them fall by the wayside. Rather than focus on the 5.4 million, we are focusing on how we increase eligibility, how we change the income parameters.
Let me point out New Jersey, which is grandfathered to 350 percent of poverty under this bill, ranked 47th in the country at enrolling children who are at 100 percent to 200 percent of poverty. Let me say that again. A State that we have allowed to be grandfathered in at 350 percent of poverty ranks 47th out of 50 in the United States at enrolling kids between 100 and 200 percent of poverty.
As a matter of fact, 28 percent of their children are uninsured in that 100 to 200 percent of poverty. Yet once again we are going to grandfather them and allow this incredible expansion to continue. So where is their focus? Let's go after the easy ones. Let's go after the ones in families who are easier to find and who are easy to enroll.
Well, why does that happen? Let me point out to my colleagues, Medicaid gets a matching rate from the federal government, depending upon which State you are from, and that rate is from 50 percent to 75.9, with a ceiling of 83. So as the State makes a Medicaid payment of $1, depending upon what State you are from, the Federal Government reimburses anywhere from 50 cents to 83 cents.
But if you are enrolled in SCHIP, the range goes from 65 to 85. So if you are on the bottom, if you are a State on the bottom, why would you lobby for expanded eligibility? It is because if you are on the bottom, you are going to have an increase in the Federal share of what you pay out from 50 to 65 cents. It is 15 cents of every dollar. You are crazy, if you are a State, for not lobbying for this because you are going to spread the cost over the entire taxpayer base. It makes a lot of sense if your focus is not on 5.4 million children and how they get covered and how they get health care.
If you are only focused on how you get a bigger piece of the Federal pie, if you are only focused on how you get a bigger share of space at the trough, then this makes a tremendous amount of sense. But from the standpoint of developing health care policy, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I don't take my position just looking at one section of the bill. Dr. Coburn pointed out, as I did earlier, that the financing of this bill is suspect. In fiscal year 2012, which is the last of 5 years, we allocate $14.98 billion to fund the program, almost $15 billion. Yet in 2013, the bill reduces the allocation to $5.7 billion. How do you have a health care program for children, with all these people enrolled, that is sucking up $15 billion a year, and all of a sudden, the next year it drops to $5.7 billion? The answer is, you don't. We all know it. The reality is, you have to go to the next 5-year period to find the answer. The answer is, starting in year 6, out of the next 5-year budget, we do a one-time payment of $11.7 billion on top of what it costs us to run the program for 2013.
So what does that mean? Frankly, it means the accounting methods used in Washington are not accounting methods any family in America could use because their creditors would walk in the door and shut them down. Yet we get up here every day and claim we do things just like people at home. In fact, we know when it comes to budgets, there is no American family who can get away with what we get away with, especially when it is this obvious. One year it costs us $15 billion. The next year it costs $5.7 billion. There are only two ways you accomplish that. You either reduce enrollment drastically or you magically come up with the money and you stick it in and say: Oops, we didn't understand that was going to happen.
We understood it was going to happen. It is done to fit the parameters, to get around pay-go rules so you can actually take this money and stick it right onto the deficit and the debt of the country. In other words, we are going to provide our children health care with one hand, and we are going to rob their financial future with the other, all at the same time. It is miraculous that we would even attempt to do this. At least we could ask for honesty and transparency in how we are funding this program.
It is important that we sort of recap. What is SCHIP? I think a lot of people
who might not have been in Congress very long, certainly weren't here in 1996 and 1997 when we passed it, people across the country might be saying: I have never heard of this program. Again, we saw the need in 1996 to create an insurance product for children's health, for those people who financially didn't qualify for Medicaid and didn't make enough to purchase insurance on the open market. SCHIP was created with the vision of trying to take kids from 100 percent of poverty to 200 percent of poverty and make them eligible for a program where 100 percent of them would have health care. Nationally, the parameters grew from 100 percent to 300 percent, and we still haven't met the original 1996 mission of covering all the kids. Because with 5.5 million people covered today, average monthly number, we still have 5.4 million over here who are eligible and don't have insurance. Clearly, we have a tremendous amount of work to do to get the SCHIP program to fulfill its original mission.
Let me go specifically to the bill before us. CBO estimates the bill will increase outlays by $32.3 billion above the baseline over 5 years and $65 billion over 10. The cost is offset by a tobacco tax. I am from North Carolina. I can get up and wail about how this is unfair. It is not the first time Congress has done it. It is the most regressive tax there is. In essence, we are taking a group who financially are challenged and, according to every analysis I have looked at, the people who are going to be most taxed by a tobacco increase are those people in the lower socioeconomic levels. So, in essence, we are not spreading this across taxpayers. We are asking the parents of these children to pay for the expansion in eligibility because we are going to tax them for every cigarette they buy and consume. We are going to hope that they quit. When they quit, I am not sure how we are going to fund the program except probably do it the same way we are doing it in the year 2013. We will come up with the money in some way and some fashion.
It is important we realize today we have something we call a Medicaid sandwich. Medicaid starts here; SCHIP goes here; Medicaid wraps on the top. It is hard to believe we could have something designed that is so complicated for the States, that Medicaid applies here to some; SCHIP applies here to others; and Medicaid applies on top of that to an even larger group. If it seems confusing, it is. If it is this confusing, one has to ask: Why don't we change it? Why don't we fix it? Yet as I continue to go through the Baucus bill, what I find is that we are making it more complicated. We are designing it in a fashion that aggressively goes after an increase in enrollment but does not go after the 5.4 million children who currently today are unenrolled in the program but are certainly eligible. As a matter of fact, the Baucus bill spends $34 billion over 5 years. It targets 5.7 million new children. I might add, 2 million of those children today are currently covered under their parents' insurance. So we have actually got a net pickup of 3.7 million kids who were uninsured. That is $34 billion.
There is an alternative plan. It is called the McConnell substitute. It is called Kids First. It uses $19.3 billion over 5 years to enroll 3.1 million kids who are uninsured today. So what do we get with the $34 billion investment that we are not getting with a $19.3 billion investment? The answer is quite simple: 600,000 uninsured kids who are enrolled under the Baucus bill. When you do the simple math on that, you find out you are paying $4,000 per enrollee under the Baucus bill.
Now, I don't expect everybody to associate with this, but last year I had a son who was a senior in college. Because we have these funky Government rules that say no matter where you are in your education process, when you become 22, you are no longer eligible to be under Government insurance for your family--it doesn't apply just to Members of the Senate or to Congress; it applies to every Federal employee--I was forced, as a parent, to go out and go through the thought process of getting my son insurance. Sure, he is 22 years old. He is healthy as a bull. There is no reason I should suspect he is going to get sick. But what if something happens to him.
So I immediately did what every good Federal employee would do. I called the correct office up here, and I said: This has to be something you have run into. Have you got some type of gap insurance I can turn to and I can purchase for that 22-year-old healthy son? They said: Certainly, Senator. We have negotiated with the same company, the same plan he was under, and he can go on that tomorrow. I said: How much is that? They said: $5,400 a year, for a 22-year-old, healthy-as-a-bull senior in college.
I did probably what every parent would do. I called the college and said: Have you got a plan? Here is the situation. They said: Absolutely. We have negotiated with the same company, with the same plan he was under as a child of a Federal employee. I said: What is the premium? They said: $1,500 a year.
Now, that lesson I actually learned when I became a Member of Congress. When I became a Member of Congress, I chose the same insurance plan I was under in Winston-Salem, NC, working for a company of 50 employees, the same exact plan paying the same 25 percent, and the only difference was my health insurance cost went up $100. Why? Because a company of 50 employees negotiated a better plan than the U.S. Government on behalf of 2 million employees. But it had been 14 years. I had forgotten that. I relearned it firsthand though with my son, when all of a sudden I realized he got a plan for $1,500 that the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill had negotiated, and the Federal Government had negotiated the same plan at $5,400. No wonder parents are confused. No wonder most Americans are confused. What a screwed up market this is. How unbelievably complicated is it for an individual to try to go out and access insurance, and at what point do you actually know that you have found a value?
Let me try to bring some relevance to this story. For that 22-year- old, healthy-as-a-bull senior in Chapel Hill, his health care plan was $1,500 a year. For all these 600,000 kids we are adding to SCHIP, we are spending $4,000 a year to insure them. The average cost per policy for somebody under 18 in America today is about $1,132. Yet under the Baucus bill we are going to invest $4,000 per child, per those 600,000 children, to make sure they are covered--not a wise investment. But considering my experience with the Federal Government, I can understand why, for some people here, that makes absolutely perfect sense.
Let's assume for a minute somebody is going to say my numbers are wrong. I am sure they will before the debate is over. Let's assume for a minute we are trying to figure out the number of increased enrollees--and I am not talking about the ones who had their own insurance and we just shifted them over to government insurance--what are we paying for them? We are paying about $2,200. They are still paying $700 more a year to insure every child 18 and under than I paid in premiums to cover my 22-year-old, healthy-as-a-bull senior in college. So we are overpaying at least by $700. At most, we are overpaying by almost $2,500. Somewhere in that range, I would hope the American people would say: Hey, let's stop for a second. Let's call time out. Let's go back and get Congress to re-look at this program because this doesn't make a lot of sense.
I am not getting into any of the aspects that have already been addressed which deal with the loopholes that were created. I actually sat on the floor and heard somebody say this was a bipartisan bill. If you count one Republican vote out of the Finance Committee, then you are right, it is bipartisan. But I am not sure that is President Obama's interpretation of what bipartisanship is. He came to the Hill. He had lunch with us today because he is trying to get more Republicans to support a stimulus package because he doesn't want to just win it, and he doesn't want to win it by one vote. He wants the American people to understand that there is confidence up here in the legislation that is passed. He probably should have talked about this bill. It is going to be bipartisan, not by many votes.
If that is the type of bipartisanship we want, then it is going to be a long couple of years.
My hope is we can actually get something done. There are so many areas I
could talk about on this bill, but it would keep me here forever, and I see my good friend, Senator Whitehouse, is in the Chamber.
Let me end with this. I am sure I will come back. What I want Members to search their souls and ask is, Is it really the Federal Government's responsibility and, more importantly, the taxpayers' responsibility that a family making $88,000 be included in a plan that is designed and was originally designed to take care of kids between 100 and 200 percent of poverty? Do we feel bad that today 5.4 million children who are eligible at 100 percent to 200 percent of poverty are not enrolled in the program?
This is not the first time I have had a test like this. My own President, last year, proposed we increase spending for HIV/AIDS patients in Africa from $15 billion to $50 billion, and to many people's amazement, Tom Coburn and I supported the President. Then all of a sudden they made a change in the program. The program had always said 50 percent of the money had to go to the treatment of HIV and AIDS patients, meaning they actually had to deliver medicine to them.
Well, when all of a sudden the countries that got these Federal grants to carry out these programs in Africa looked at the program, they said: My gosh, for us to get from committing $7.5 billion all the way up to $22.5 billion in delivering medicines to people who have HIV or AIDS, that is going to be tough. We are going to have to work to find these people. It is going to be dangerous in some cases for us to get drugs out.
What did the White House do? They dropped the requirement in total. They did not require one dime of that $50 billion to actually go to the delivery of drugs to HIV and AIDS patients. So what did we do? We held up the bill. We were taking flak from our own President because other people wrote a bill that was structured poorly. It actually did not accomplish what we set out to have with PEPFAR originally.
At the end of the day, they put back in the requirement of 50 percent, and today, for the multiple countries this applies to, we have a commitment that $22.5 billion is going to go to actually treat individuals who have HIV and AIDS--our original intent of the program. We just expanded it.
Now, we were not going to get there just by saying it is difficult, therefore we do not think we should do that. And we are not going to cover these 5.4 million kids who are eligible but not enrolled if we say: Do you know what. This is hard. And since it is hard, why don't you change the program so the eligibility is wider so we can get some of the kids who are out here in different income groups who are easier for us to enroll than for us to go and find the 5.4 million who are so hard to find.
Well, I am going to say to my colleagues, just like I said to my President: No. That is not what we intended to do. We put this program together to make sure the most at-risk kids in this country had health coverage, so they had a medical home. To suggest we are now going to change the parameters of this and allow a larger income pool to come in because it is hard to reach out and find these 5.4 million people, no; it is not going to happen. It may happen, but it should be as difficult at happening as it possibly can.
I look forward to the debate we are going to have. It is my hope we will have an opportunity to actually look at honest budget numbers that share with the American people exactly what this costs, that we can look at the eligibility requirements with predictability, understand who is going to have an opportunity to be enrolled, and, hopefully, at the end of the day, when a bill passes--whether we vote for it or not-- that we can all look at it and say: There is a real chance that 100 percent of the kids at 100 percent to 200 percent of poverty have a real opportunity to be enrolled in this program. I fear without changes to this legislation that will not happen. We will not have fulfilled what we set out to do.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
Mr. President, will the Senator yield for a question?
Would any of those 3.3 million children have been in 100 percent to 200 percent of poverty?
Let me suggest to the Senator--and I will not ask him to yield much longer--there was the same expansion of eligibility in last year's bill, so the likelihood is any increase in enrollment would have been spread across not just the 100 percent to 200 percent of poverty, but all the way up to the 400 percent of poverty.
Mr. President, I would be happy to disclose to my colleague that I voted against the bill, for the same reasons that without changes I will oppose it this year because the eligibility requirement is being expanded.
As I said, and I thought fairly clearly, when you expand eligibility, you take the pressure off of making sure the enrollees come from the most at risk. It is my hope we can modify this bill. I am not embarrassed to be on the Senate floor and talk about the aspects of this legislation that I am unhappy with. But certainly I can count, and I know the majority can move this bill at any point they feel comfortable, and I am sure they will.
At the end of the day, it is my hope we will cover as many of the originally targeted children in that 100 percent to 200 percent of poverty as possible.