Thank you. I thank the gentleman for yielding and the gentlewoman from Pennsylvania, also, to spend some time on some of the important points in our world today. We are so very deeply concerned that throughout our world and really…
Thank you.
I thank the gentleman for yielding and the gentlewoman from Pennsylvania, also, to spend some time on some of the important points in our world today. We are so very deeply concerned that throughout our world and really throughout the history of humankind, so many people have lost their lives and blood has been shed and cities have been burned and armies have been massed, unfortunately, in the name of religion. It has sometimes and very frequently distorted its goals.
I wanted to start off by going back to some of the speech that Pope Benedict gave. In a sentence that followed his quote under question again, where he is continuing his quote about the emperor and saying, The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. ``God,'' he says, ``is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly without violence and threats. To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death.''
As I read this, I am also struck by some of the similarity with an article about religious tolerance in Islam. There are several quotes which I need to read into the record, too, to talk about some things we need to understand as Americans and the world needs to understand. Our nation, predominantly a Christian nation and one that is founded on many of those principles and very much a part of our history, our Constitution and our laws, there is so much we need to learn. I say these things not in any kind of way of being conciliatory but a way of saying we need to approach things with understanding and not the violence which is occurring around the world. It is so disturbing to see churches burned, to see a nun shot, to see calls and crying out for assassinations. This is not the way to seek peace.
Let me read here from this article on religious intolerance in Islam about piety, where the author, Dr. Abdullah M. Khouj, writes:
Piety eliminates any type of racial, social or national discrimination. Religious discrimination is completely incompatible with Islam. Islam was revealed in a part of the world and at a time when the majority of people were polytheists. Islam came and showed people the need to believe in one God as the only way to understand themselves and to improve their lives. Allah confirmed to the prophet that we must believe all previous messengers and that we must reach a level of understanding with other religions. He says:
``Say ye: `We believe in God and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to all prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God in Islam.'''
The author goes on to say:
And when a Muslim discusses religion with a non-Muslim, Allah enjoins us to speak with reason and good manners.
Again he continues:
``And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better than mere disputation, unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong and injury: But say, `We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and that which came down to you. Our God and your God is one; and it is to him we bow in Islam.'''
Again the author continues:
Indeed, Allah requires us to ensure that religious discussion never be allowed to become violent.
Finally he quotes:
``Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error. Whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.''
As I read those words that have come from the Islamic Center, I am struck that really throughout history, so many faiths and governments have dealt with religious conflict. Early this evening, in fact, I was meeting with folks from Northern Ireland, from Ireland and the United Kingdom who have themselves been dealing with a conflict which has gone on more predominantly for the last few decades but really for centuries of conflicts between Catholics and Protestants/Christians in Northern Ireland. Much blood has been shed. There have been revolutions. There has been a peace agreement which has been in place since 1998 but a government is not yet set. It is true these things we have to remember, that when people have religious intolerance and wars and bloodshed ensues, it is of terrible consequence.
One of the reasons we are here today is to say that we are are not here to support any kind of intolerance. We are here to call the world to do what it should do in terms of those principles of religious freedom which are so important for bringing peace to the world.
Here let me call upon something that George Washington said. He said, back in 1792, ``Of all animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be most inveterate and distressing and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy which has marked the present age would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.''
He goes to say, in 1775:
``As the contempt of the religion of a country by ridiculing any of its ceremonies or affronting its ministers or votaries has ever been deeply resented, you are to be particularly careful to restrain every officer from such imprudence and folly and to punish any and every instance of it,'' he was saying to Benedict Arnold.
``On the other hand,'' Washington continues, ``as far as lies in your power, you are to protect and support the free exercise of religion of the country and the undisturbed enjoyment of the rights of conscience in religious matters with your utmost influence and authority.''
It would seem to me at that time, as Washington has said, as so many countries have dealt with these issues, that what we need to have is not more violence, not more accusations, not more calls for assassinations and murders and burnings, not more continuation of war, hiding behind these with some extremists who have themselves captured or are hiding behind some aspects of faith, but understand that we are in a world that can little tolerate these burnings, these assassinations, these murders but on one which really must call for an interfaith dialogue, of patience, of understanding; truly seeing what the words are and not using them as some sort of vehicle for more incendiary language.
There is so much that we need to use and perhaps, in the Pope's words, those should really be a stepping-off point to continue this dialogue, not to continue on with this violence which we are seeing. The world can little afford more war. As I watched also the comments of the United Nations today from leaders to continue these comments, this is
not the way the world should be operating. This is not the way the U.N. should be operating. My hope is that every American of every faith, that every man or woman of the cloth of every faith, not only here in the United States but throughout the world, sees this as an opportunity to be called upon by their Maker to speak out and say that if there is any hope for us in this world, if there is any hope for the faiths of which we adhere, that this is the time above all times when truth and dialogue are needed to discuss things rather than swords.
If I may ask the gentleman to yield to me for a moment, I appreciate that. I want to follow up with some things that my colleague from Pennsylvania was saying as part of this.
Again it is important as our words are heard, my colleagues and Mr. Speaker, that we are not standing here in a conciliatory posture. This is not a matter of asking people to surrender their beliefs or their strength or undercut that which is the basis of our Constitution. It is in fact something that strengthens it.
An article that was written in Time Magazine that just appeared commented here about an analysis of things that Pope Benedict said. It is important to note that this article, by Jeff Israely, said that ``Pope Benedict spoke about the need for the West.'' He was saying ``His questions are not reserved for the Islamic world, as he has done before. Benedict spoke about the need for the West, especially Europe, to reverse its tendency towards godless secularism. He believes that the gift of reason that he cherishes in Christianity has been warped by the West into an absolutist doctrine and that, he believes, prevents the opening of a productive channel for dialogue with a more faithful Islamic society. Reason and faith, he insists, must come together in a new way.''
This is so important for where we are in this crossroads of the world. When I listened today to the President of Iran and the President of Venezuela, or listening to these incendiary words, calling out more criticism and calls for more violence among so many, and when these are underscored and peppered by comments that are meant to provoke violence on the basis of faith, this is the very thing that I believe that the Pope was trying to prevent. Unfortunately, his words were distorted, misquoted, and, in some cases, not quoted fully at all. That is in part why we are here tonight to talk about it in more detail.
Our role here as Members of Congress is punctuated and exentuated by that of which when we took our oath of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I remind us all that here in the very Preamble of the Constitution, where we are here to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare, here is where it is important to say that we are calling for reason and dialogue as it comes to questions of faith, and that should be something we should all agree to.
But we must also recognize that we cannot give in to those who continue to threaten violence, who would attack, would kill and do anything in that manner. We will continue to defend those principles of our Nation.
But it is something that we are so keenly aware of, because we have struggled with this as a nation. One of the reasons in our own Bill of Rights we have freedom of speech, which was included, and that itself could not have been part of the initial Constitution in 1787, we recall. They couldn't even agree how to put that in. That required another Constitutional amendment that they agreed to and didn't get in for a couple years when the States had to ratify those amendments.
This was the time when George Washington was also trying to keep our Nation together as its first President. But he had here, and this is another quote from 1783, at that time he said, ``I now make it my earnest prayer, that God would have you, and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection, that he would incline the hearts of the Citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to Government, to entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another, for their fellow Citizens of the United States at large, and particularly for their brethren who have served in the field, and finally, he would most graciously be pleased to dispose us all, to do Justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility and pacific temper of mind which were the Characteristics of the Divine Author of our blessed Religion, and without a humble imitation of whose example in these things we can never hope to be a happy Nation.''
Indeed it is our own Nation which has struggled with issues of religious freedom, freedom of the press, freedom of the person, habeas corpus, all of those things which are part of it. We have not done those struggles without bloodshed. We have faced our own wars here, our own problems, our own riots, our own violence. And as we reflect upon those, that is perhaps why tonight we are particularly motivated to say these aspects of continuing to take things out of context, to misrepresent them and to call upon more violence, simply have to stop and the strength of our Nation and people must stand behind them.
Let me also add this, as I have talked to citizens in my district since these comments were made and watched the reactions. It is in many ways to serve as a wake-up call for all of us, that there are those factions, and I do not believe for one second these are the beliefs of all Muslims, but there are those factions who use this as an excuse to an attack the West, use it as an excuse to attack those who are Christians or Jews or even other Muslims.
Those things cannot be tolerated by anybody in the world. It is unfortunate, and yet I hope it is only a temporary thing and it is fixed soon. The U.N. has been silent on those principle. And I would hope in the midst of all this other vituperative rhetoric that has taken place in the U.N. today and continues around the world, that leaders of nations, leaders of faith, will speak out and say this is not the way we should operate as democracies and as a people who want to live together in peace.