Mr. President, I actually came over to have a little discussion with the distinguished chairman of the full committee who has brought this legislation forth, Senator Inhofe. I thank him for the work he has been doing. We had an issue we…
Mr. President, I actually came over to have a little discussion with the distinguished chairman of the full committee who has brought this legislation forth, Senator Inhofe. I thank him for the work he has been doing. We had an issue we have been discussing, and I think we have something identified to be helpful.
I came to talk about the highway bill, and I will do it to this extent: We need a bill. It is an overdue bill. It is important to our country. It is important to have infrastructure. It is important for job creation. It is important for economic development. And it is important for safety.
We ought to do this bill. I just cannot understand why the Senate still heaves away from getting this extremely popular, overdue, and highly necessary piece of legislation passed.
I urge my colleagues, if they have good amendments, let's do them. If we can't get it completed this afternoon, let's do it as soon as possible. It is critical for our country.
We are speaking on time on the highway bill, but actually other subjects have been introduced. I would like to comment on that.
I am glad to yield.
I want this legislation so bad, I would even stop talking myself. That would be a major sacrifice, but yes, I would be glad to yield. But since the opportunity presents itself and I missed the opportunity to engage in the discussion an hour or so ago--not that it was needed--I have had very little to say on the floor of the Senate about the discussion about judges. There are a lot of different viewpoints. I am not going to refer to what others have said and I am not going to suggest I am a great constitutional scholar or that I am so steeped in all of the rules and traditions of the Senate. But I have studied this issue.
I have been in the Congress for now going on 33 years. I have read the Constitution over and over again, particularly on this subject, article II, section 2. I am somewhat familiar with the traditions and rules of the Senate. I am chairman of the Rules Committee. I have been in leadership roles. I must say that while we have had our disagreements and while I have seen us make mistakes and while I have seen injustices heaped on each other, on the people who are affected by issues we deal with, I don't believe I have ever seen anything as unfair and wrong as what I have seen happening to these circuit court nominees over the past 4 years. This has been going on for 4 years.
I was stunned when it started happening with Judge Charles Pickering of Mississippi and Justice Priscilla Owen of Texas. I thought maybe that was something aimed at me or maybe it was aimed at the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, or maybe it was a fit of anger about some of the nominees from President Clinton who didn't get out of the Judiciary Committee, but it would be a passing break from tradition. But no, this has continued right on through the 108th. We need to find a resolution that is fair to all concerned.
I wanted to correct a couple misimpressions, perpetuated primarily by the media. The proposal to put the tradition back in place that we don't filibuster Federal judicial nominees is not an end of the filibuster. Some of the media--accidentally, I am sure--suggested this is a debate over whether to have the filibuster. No, it is limited to the Federal judiciary. It won't affect our ability to continue to filibuster legislation or other executive branch nominations, although I have to confess, I think there should be some reasonable limits on that also. I am not a guy who gets so caught up in the institutional rights that I forget considering the rights of people and right and wrong. Does that have a place here in the Senate?
These good men and women and minorities have been maligned, mistreated, have had their lives disrupted, some of them for 4 years. Some of the best possible nominees such as Miguel Estrada said: Well, I have to go on with my life. And he withdrew.
There has been a misimpression given about how this would limit the filibuster. It would only apply to these judicial nominees.
The other thing is, Senator Frist and the Republicans are considering changing the rules. Actually what we are considering doing is putting tradition back in place. The tradition has not been to filibuster Federal nominees. The tradition has not been to filibuster appellate court nominees. Not one time during the 6 years or so I served as leader did we have a filibuster. We are trying to go back to where we were. You can argue over this example or that example or we should retain that right. No, that has not been the right. That has not been the tradition. What has happened is wrong.
I saw somebody last night on one of the talk shows saying everything that happens in Washington is about something else. This lady suggested this whole debate is about the next Supreme Court nomination. Maybe that is true. Maybe there are a couple other things it is about, but in the meantime, innocent and qualified, good people are having their lives disrupted and smeared by this process.
I acknowledge this sort of thing has been going on ever since I have been in the Senate. Every time we have a filibuster or kill somebody or embarrass somebody in our process, whether it is Senator John Tower to be Secretary of Defense or Clarence Thomas to be on the Supreme Court, Judge Bork as a nominee, every time we seem to drop down another level. Sure, a lot of the Clinton nominees were held up in the Judiciary Committee. Maybe this is retaliation for that. What is going to be the next retaliation? How low can we go before we stop this tit for tat?
Now is the time to end it and go back toward greater comity between the parties and the people involved in these discussions. I haven't been sitting on the sideline saying: Let's impose this rule. Let's comply with the Constitution, which I think we should do. I want to make that perfectly clear. I have one goal and only one goal, ultimately, in this area, and that is to stop filibusters of these Federal judges. I don't particularly care how we get there, but that is the right thing to do. I am determined to get there.
As chairman of the Rules Committee, we had hearings on and moved legislation 2 years ago, sponsored by Senator Frist and Senator Zell Miller, to try to come to a fair conclusion about how these judges would be handled. It was a process that said the first vote on cloture would require 60 votes, then 57, then 55, but ultimately get to an up- or-down vote, a majority, but an elongated process to make sure everything that needed to be said could be said. It could be fully scrubbed, and at some point you get to conclusion. A filibuster, the way it is being used, is guaranteeing we never get to conclusion. It goes on and on from one Congress to the next.
We reported out a bill. That apparently wasn't acceptable to the minority, the Democrats. So I started looking for other solutions. I did talk to Senator Ben Nelson and others: Is there some way we can address some of these concerns; is there some way we can guarantee that these nominees are not unfairly held permanently in the Judiciary Committee?
We came up with a process that said after 90 days, if the appropriate blue slips have been returned by the Senators from the State of the nominee affected, then they would come to the floor. They could not be held in committee indefinitely, but if there was a problem that came up and they needed
an additional 90 days, agreed to by the chairman and ranking member, then it could be extended. Ultimately, they would have to come out of committee and be considered by the full Senate. That would address one of the concerns that has been pointed out by Senator Reid and Senator Leahy and other Democrats. There is some merit to what they are saying. Let's fix that.
The second problem was freedom of speech, the great tradition in the Senate of endless debate. Give me a break. At any rate, to say the majority leader could not even file cloture for at least 24 hours after a nomination was called up--it could be longer--and then he could file cloture, and after 2 days we would eventually get to an up-or-down vote, but have a week for debate. By the way, Senator Frist subsequently suggested that be moved even further. Every Senator would get an hour if he wanted it, full debate. I hate the thought of that, too, having to listen to 99 other speakers on a judge. Think about the sacrifice the majority leader has to make. When the majority leader has to give 100 hours to anything, how many judges could do you that on? It would be another impediment. But we would have full debate and then a vote. That was the key. Fairness on the committee, full debate on the floor, but ultimately a vote. That was rejected.
A lot of different ideas have been explored. A lot of Senators would like to find a way to stop the way we have been doing business but doing it where everybody could have some degree of comfort. I think time is running out. I think we have to make a decision on this and move on. Some people would say: Oh, my goodness, the Senate will be stopped, slowed down, with different agendas offered. How will we get anything done? The last time I checked, we have done four bills this year. We are not exactly burning up the woods. How do you slow down from almost a dead stop? So there is a little bit of a temerity--I will not use names to describe what the Senate is doing.
I think we need to work together. We have done it many times across the aisle. We have worked with Senator Baucus of Montana on issue after issue. Senator Grassley won't have it any other way, to his credit. We ought to find more ways to do it. We ought to find a way to do it on Social Security. We have done it before. It took courage. We have done it on trade and we are going to do it again. It will take courage, sacrifice, and we are going to have to work to find a solution. We can do that here.
But I guess the thing that really gets me the most is when we put our description of tradition and the great institution ahead of human beings. When we have this debate, I see faces, people; I see Janice Rogers Brown, from California, who has an incredible story to tell. She is being maligned. Is she a conservative African-American woman? Yes. Is that disqualifying? It should not be. You may not agree with her opinion of Franklin Roosevelt, but isn't she entitled to an opinion? All the while, perhaps, she is ruling very fairly or even ruling against her personal beliefs, if that is what the court precedent calls for.
Mr. President, I don't necessarily mean this as critical of the institution or any one individual, but I think there is an awful lot of pontificating that has gone on too long here. Priscilla Owen, a supreme court justice in Texas, deserves a vote. She deserves to be confirmed. Somebody said she is too pro-business, she has a conservative viewpoint. Is that now disqualifying? I don't think so.
I have voted for judges I didn't agree with, perhaps on labor law. I point out over and over again that I voted to confirm Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Certainly, she would not have been my pick, but she was qualified, experienced, and had proper decorum, and she was ethical. President Clinton won the election and so, based on that, I voted for her.
Surely, we can find a way to work this out. I think it has gone on long enough. I have tried not once, twice, but three times to find a way that we can get the right result, which is an up-or-down vote on these judges, and I have not been able to be successful yet. A lot of people have tried, and I think they deserve recognition. Those of us who have worked to try to find compromise have not been working against the interests of our leadership. We told them what we were trying to do. That is in one of the finer traditions of the Senate. But I cannot find a solution that I think is fair, other than to make it clear that these nominees deserve an up-or-down vote.
The Senate should vote. Some of them won't be confirmed, I predict. One or two of the seven--the magnificent seven--that have been renominated may not be confirmed. I would not be surprised to see that. I have voted for judges and against judges, but all of a sudden we don't want to do that.
Let the Senate do what it is supposed to do. Let's ante up and kick in. Let's vote and solve this issue, get it done, and let's move on and legislate for the best interests of our children and grandchildren.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, I rise in opposition to the Allen amendment, and I will repeat what Senator Warner had to say:
I rise today to strongly support the safety belt provisions
in the Inhofe substitute and to urge my colleagues to reject
the amendment offered by my colleague Senator Allen.
I thought that would be a pretty interesting statement to put into the Record at this point.
I remember, though, Senator Warner did a lot of work on this subject a couple of years ago. He has been involved in Transportation bills, highway bills, but I remember he had an amendment that would actually, in effect, provide sanctions if one did not have seatbelts. I voted against that because I do not think that is the way to get States such as mine to do something that could be very important in terms of safety.
Before he leaves the floor, I want to also commend Senator DeWine for his work on these safety issues. In the bill last year, he had a lot of provisions that he worked with Senator McCain and others on to get them to include in the Commerce portion of the highway bill. This is an area where he has worked, he feels passionately about it and he came back this year and said we want to work together.
I think if my colleagues will look at what we put in the safety provisions from the Commerce Committee, from the Surface Transportation and Merchant Marine Subcommittee that I chair, now a part of the substitute, they will be pleased with the safety provisions.
This is a key part of the highways and transportation in our country. If we just look at the pavement, if we just look at the jobs, if we just look at economic development, we will be missing a big part of the equation, and that is safety and lives that can be saved or lost depending on what we do.
Senator Stevens, Senator Inouye, and I met with people on all sides of this equation: highway people, safety advocates, State representatives, labor, the entire mix, and we developed these provisions very carefully. So I want to thank Senator DeWine for his effort.
Because I have done that, and because I have worked on this issue, I feel very strongly in opposition to the amendment offered by Senator Allen. Usually, Senator Allen and I would be together on something like this, but my opposition this time is very simple and that is we need people to use seatbelts; they save lives.
I come from a State that is one of the lowest users of seatbelts in the Nation--63 percent. I am one of those who has been slow to come to the usage of seatbelts, but I guarantee you my kids know how important they are. They will not let me crank the car up until everybody is buckled in, including especially my grandchildren.
Then, as I have gotten into it more and more, the statistics are clear that these seatbelts will make a difference. In 2003, about 17,000 people killed in motor vehicle crashes were not buckled up, and nearly 500 of those deaths were children. Would it absolutely have saved them if they had been buckled up? Maybe not. But even if it had been just a few hundred, and it probably was more like thousands, that makes a huge difference. Many of those 17,000 deaths were preventable.
A passenger wearing a seatbelt is 45 percent less likely to be killed when involved in an accident. For light trucks such as SUVs, the figure is higher. The risk of fatal injury is reduced by 60 percent. Traffic safety experts nationwide agree that the most effective short-term way of reducing traffic fatalities is to increase the seatbelt use.
Getting people to change their driving habits is a major challenge that requires more than just airing public service announcements or distributing safety materials. Over the years, States have tried many different ways to increase seatbelt usage. Experience has shown the most effective means to increase seatbelt use is to enact the primary seatbelt law.
In fact, each percentage point increase in seatbelt use saves about 270 additional lives. If every State in the country enacted the primary seatbelt law, more than 1,200 lives would be saved every single year.
Today, in the 22 jurisdictions--21 States and the District of Columbia--that have primary enforcement laws, the average seatbelt use rate is 11 points higher than in States without this primary seatbelt law. I want to emphasize my State does not have it. I have talked to State officials. I want to encourage the State to do that, and this provision will do that. I will explain that a little bit more in a moment.
To give an example of how powerful an effect this will have, consider the recent experience in the State of Illinois which passed a primary seatbelt law in just 2003. In just one year after Illinois passed a primary seatbelt enforcement law, the seatbelt use rate jumped from 74 percent to 80 percent. Increases in seatbelt use produced real results. In Washington State, traffic fatalities declined by 9 percent in the first year after passing a primary seatbelt law. Yet there are still 29 States that have not passed it. This grant program will provide incentives for those States to take the steps needed to save lives.
It also rewards States that are able to achieve a 90-percent seatbelt use rate without a primary seatbelt enforcement law. States that have already done it but show movement and get to 90 percent, there is a reward, an incentive, for them to do that. What we are really worried about is those 29 States that have not done it that are down in the 60--or even less--percent use of seatbelts. This program rewards the States that are able to achieve that 90 percent.
Senator Allen's amendment says that unless a State gets 85 percent, they do not get any of the incentives. In my State, it is 63 percent, and we are not going to get to 85 percent for many years to come. We will not ever reach the percentage or get the incentives that would encourage us to do it.
The seatbelt performance grants offer States the flexibility to use much of the funds on highway safety infrastructure projects. That is the most important safety provision we could possibly pass: Better roads, wider roads, more lanes, more bridges, safer bridges. That is the ultimate safety provision. Seatbelts and other things that can be done, the construction of vehicles, make a difference too.
The flexibility funding allows States to identify and address the greatest highway safety hazard. They can improve dangerous intersections, enhance railroad signage or redesign dangerous stretches of road. Combining a primary seatbelt enforcement law with addressing highway safety hazards is a win-win situation.
More States would reap the benefit under the Senate Commerce provision than under the Allen amendment. Today, only 14 States have an 85-percent seatbelt use rate required to qualify for the Allen amendment.
The Allen amendment is also a budget buster. If all States were to enact primary seatbelt laws, the cost of the Commerce Committee bill would be $597 million. If all States were to meet 85-percent belt use under the Allen amendment, it would cost $778 million. The additional $181 million needed to fund the amendment would have to come out of the highway trust fund.
We thought about this carefully. We listened to administration officials. It is very clear it is the view of the administration, the position of the administration, that we need to encourage greater use of seatbelts. We need States to pass this primary seatbelt law. It will save lives, and I believe the Allen amendment will undermine a very strong part of this legislation.
I urge my colleagues, when we do take this back up, to look at this very carefully. We will vote on it next week and you will have a chance to think it through. It is not about, Do I get a little more this way than that way as a State; we are talking about lives here. We are talking about lives, and a life in Georgia is as important as a life in Mississippi or Virginia or any State in the Nation.
I feel strongly about this. By the way, one of the reasons why I feel strongly, I believe, is I am among the converted. I didn't just get here years ago; I moved gradually toward this. Finally, the statistics, the evidence, and the deaths are too much weight for me to reject, or not accept. This is a way to get a significant increase in my State, and States all across the country, in seatbelt usage.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to call up amendments Nos. 583, 631, and 733 en bloc. I ask unanimous consent that amendments Nos. 631 and 733 be modified with the changes at the desk and agreed to en bloc. The amendments have been cleared by the managers on both sides of the aisle.
Let me withhold on the agreement until we get final clearance.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, for the record, I withdraw my unanimous consent request. There was a misunderstanding that was involved. We are working on that, and we hope we can get the package agreed to later.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.