Departments Of Commerce, Justice, And State, The Judiciary, And Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2005
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that the remainder of the bill through page 108, line 22, be considered as read and printed in the Record and open to amendment at any point. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman,…
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that the remainder of the bill through page 108, line 22, be considered as read and printed in the Record and open to amendment at any point.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I would urge any Members, following up what the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) said, any Members that have amendments, we have been here since noon and we are waiting on them, so I would urge them, if they are listening, to come to the floor and offer the amendments so we can move the process along. So if Members can hear and are available, we would encourage them to come so amendments could be offered.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Pitts
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the amendment. I want to thank the gentleman for offering it.
This really follows the principle that was used during the Carter administration and during the Reagan administration by keeping lists. Therefore, if you happen to be going to a country, when you go to China you are able to check to see that X and Y have been tortured, so when you meet with government officials, you can raise those cases. This is the way it was done in the Carter administration and in the Reagan administration.
This is a very good amendment, and I thank the gentleman for offering it, and I rise in strong support of it. I urge that we accept it.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I rise in opposition. The census is one of the oldest civic functions of our Nation. Article I of the U.S. Constitution requires enumeration of the population every 10 years. The census is the largest peacetime mobilization of our government personnel.
The American Community Survey is designed to replace the long-form portion for future decennial censuses, therefore leaving only the short-form portion.
Many Americans found that filling out the long-form survey to be burdensome, and many said this contributed to the declining response rate of the long form, therefore costing the American taxpayer more money to have census takers returning to the nonresponding households.
The Committee on Government Reform and the Committee on Appropriations have worked to ensure that the Census Bureau has the necessary funding to carry out its mission and to ensure that for 2010 there will only be a short form census.
The question of constitutionality of the American Community Survey is not new. On April 4, 2002, the General Accounting Office responded to the vice-chairman of the Committee on Government Reform's request for an opinion. The GAO stated, ``Census clearly has authority to conduct the ACS.'' There is sufficient legal authority.
If we do not fund the ACS, we will ensure we have a two-form census in 2010, which will cost an additional $4 million for the taxpayer.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I rise in support of the amendment. We worked with the gentleman from New York (Mr. Serrano), the ranking member, on this amendment. It restores the microloan program. We are in agreement, and I ask that the amendment be approved.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, would it be possible to reclaim my time?
Mr. Chairman, how much time is remaining?
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Serrano).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Olver).
(Mr. OLVER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition, and I yield myself such time as I may consume. At this point I just want to say that my mom died of cancer, my father died of cancer, and I would have done anything to help them, and OxyContin can make a big difference. But there has been a lot of abuse. There have been a lot of doctors that have been doctor factories that are just prescribing this.
There were some in my area, and I have seen families that have been devastated in southwest Virginia. I understand what the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Paul) is saying, but in southwest Virginia, in the rural areas down in Lee County, there is probably not a family that has not been impacted by the abuse of prescriptions. So it is a balance.
I understand the gentleman, being a doctor, how he feels, but there are cases where there is tremendous abuse. That is why I think we have to keep monitoring this.
Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against the amendment because it proposes to change existing law and constitutes legislation in an appropriation bill and therefore violates clause 2 of Rule XXI.
The rule states in pertinent part: ``An amendment to a general appropriation bill shall not be in order if changing existing law. The amendment imposes additional duties.''
So I ask for a ruling of the Chair.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, and I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, when we had a vote on the floor, the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hyde) offered the amendment to not join UNESCO. I supported the amendment. I did not believe that we should have joined UNESCO. The decision was made by the Bush administration. Also, on that vote, if my memory serves me, I was on the losing side. I think it may have been Lantos v. Hyde. I voted with the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hyde), and we were on the losing side. History will have to check the exact timing of that vote.
The bill includes $71.9 million for the U.S. share of funding for membership in UNESCO, and I have had serious questions about UNESCO. UNESCO was rife with corruption and problems. The Bush administration, who wanted to join, has a very good and a very tough ambassador, a kind of a no-nonsense person. I have met her and think highly of her. The President announced 2 years ago at the United Nations, and I remember seeing the speech, that the U.S. would rejoin UNESCO. The First Lady, Mrs. Bush, addressed the UNESCO plenary session in Paris, France, last year.
The U.S. withdrew from UNESCO in 1984 when the organization was rife with corruption and anti-Western bias, and I think the current ambassador, I have spoken to her, is going to make sure they do not go back to the corruption and anti-Western bias. It was mismanaged, and she has pledged that she would stay after that.
Since that time, they have undergone reforms and the current leadership is committed. They say it stands for fundamental human rights and democratic principles; and participation in the UNESCO, many say, will allow us to be engaged as international partners in a number of issues. This year, the U.S. was elected to the UNESCO legal committee, the intergovernmental biotechnics committee, and other committees.
I think now, although I do tend to agree with the gentleman, I think it is a fact and I think he raises some very, very valid points, but to strike funding for UNESCO just after the Bush administration has joined, just after President Bush's wife, Mrs. Bush, has spoken at a plenary session, I think would send a wrong message. So I reluctantly rise in opposition to the amendment out of respect to the Bush administration, having been on the losing side.
But we are going to watch this. We are going to watch and see what UNESCO does, and I am glad this issue was raised by the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Paul). But in light of the vote on the floor and in light of the Bush administration request and the President's speech, and in light of the First Lady attending and addressing the plenary session, I would ask defeat of the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
A similar amendment was offered on DHS, and it failed by a vote of 148 to 259, so we are back to exactly the same thing. SCAAP funds are not available to States that violate current law, and the Justice Department tells us the gentleman's amendment would have no impact.
I understand what the gentleman is trying to do. In the State of Virginia, we have a program where our State police are basically deputized to in essence enforce the immigration laws. But it is like Don Quixote. So what I would recommend the gentleman to do, and I mentioned this to the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King) earlier, the gentleman and the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King) and others ought to sit down with the administration, with the Department of Justice and also with the Department of Homeland Security and fashion a regulation in that sense. I think there are other ways of doing this. I think you are just sort of coming up against it. My sense may be wrong. Maybe the 148 will go to 152, I do not know.
But I think the gentleman really wants to be successful and do something. However, the Department of Justice says the Tancredo amendment would have no effect on those who receive SCAAP grants. I am not going to take a lot more time, but I would urge the gentleman, and I will be glad to help the gentleman set up a meeting with BICE and with the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice to see how to do this. But since it does nothing and says nothing and is in essence the same amendment I believe was offered on homeland security, I think the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Rogers) defeated by 148 for and 259 against, for that reason I urge a ``no'' vote on the amendment, and offer to work with the gentleman, BICE, and the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King) to set up a meeting.
I yield to the gentlewoman from Texas.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Serrano).
Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Serrano) 30 seconds.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposition to this amendment. This is a bad amendment. It will be bad for the country.
Marijuana is the most abused drug in the United States. According to the Department of Health and Human Services, more young people are now in treatment for marijuana dependency than for alcohol or for all other legal drugs combined. The amendment does not address the problem of marijuana abuse and possibly, perhaps probably, makes it worse by sending a message to young people that there can be health benefits from smoking marijuana.
In testimony before the Committee on Government Reform, the DEA provided an example of how marijuana trafficking is occurring under the guise of medicine. And there is so much more I could say, and we have the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Souder) here and the gentleman from California (Mr. Ose). This is not a good amendment. The message that this sends to the young people is absolutely wrong. This was overwhelmingly defeated the last time it came up. I urge defeat of the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Burgess).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Burns).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute of the 3 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Ose)
Mr. Chairman, who has the right to close?
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Souder).
Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now rise.