Mr. President, the Democratic leader is on his way to the floor and wants to be the first speaker on this matter on our side. We wish that he be the first speaker. In light of that, I suggest the absence of a quorum. I object.…
Mr. President, the Democratic leader is on his way to the floor and wants to be the first speaker on this matter on our side. We wish that he be the first speaker. In light of that, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
I object.
Parliamentary inquiry: If Senator Daschle's request had been that we move to Prado without the conditions he set forth as to time, is that a debatable motion? We are in executive session.
I don't want to do that because the Senator from Utah has the floor, but I want everyone to understand, as soon as I get the floor, I will move to Prado. That is debatable.
Mr. President, if I may complete my statement, I think we would be in a very strange situation where we would have the Republicans filibustering our moving to Prado.
Mr. President, I say to my friend from Utah, earlier today, the majority leader announced there would be no votes today. He has been always very cooperative with me. So I am not going to move to the nomination of Prado today. But I want to put my friend on notice, as well as everybody else, that tomorrow, when we are going to be in a period of time where we can vote, I will do that.
I say to my friend from Utah, who is my friend, that I have respect for him and his legislative abilities and his fine legal mind. But I believe we should not get bogged down with Miguel Estrada and Priscilla Owen. There are many other things we can do to move forward with lots of Judiciary Committee appointments, as was seen from the vote today. We had 41 votes here. I think with Priscilla Owen and Miguel Estrada there have been extraordinary circumstances that have caused us to do what we have done. There is no need to go over again why we feel as strongly as we do with Miguel Estrada. The record is replete with that. With Priscilla Owen, the record hasn't been made, but it will be. Here is a person we feel should not be on the court; as simple as that.
I see my friend who was chair and is now ranking member of the important Judiciary subcommittee which deals with judges. So I believe we are fighting over issues that really are not helpful to the family. We have heard a lot of talk here saying let's get Hispanic people on the court. We have Prado; he is Hispanic. Let's move him this afternoon or tomorrow. Also, I am quite certain my friend from Utah did not mean this. I understand why the majority wants to have an orderly process to handle judicial nominations. It is understandable. But there are certain times when you have to clean your house on Friday and not Saturday. Things come up. In this instance, I suggest that there has been a tentative agreement worked out, for example, on Roberts, who has been waiting a long time to become a circuit court judge. Using the logic that I just heard from my friend from Utah, because Estrada is up ahead of him, maybe we should not move to Roberts. But maybe because Roberts has been around longer, he would supersede Estrada.
The point is I think the seniority issue means a great deal in a legislative body but very little in a judicial body. I know that one of the fine people on the Ninth Circuit--I think my friend from Utah would understand he has been an outstanding jurist--Procter Hug, of Stanford Law, served on the court a long time and became the chief judge of the Ninth Circuit. That is based on seniority. But we are not here talking about who is going to be the chief judge of the Fifth Circuit. We are talking about trying to get judicial nominations filled as quickly as we can.
The President said he wants them, and the majority leader said he wants more judges. The chairman of the Judiciary Committee said he wants more judges. We are here to please. We are willing to work. We have approved 119, and there is no reason that by the end of this week we could not get up over 120. We can do that, including Judge Prado. So I hope we can move beyond Priscilla Owen.
I say as respectfully as I can that Priscilla Owen is not going to be approved. Fact. I don't know everything, but one thing I do know is where the votes are most of the time. Priscilla Owen is not going to be approved. We should get off of her and go to something else.
If the majority wants us to go through lots of cloture votes on her, we will march down here and do the same as we have done on Miguel Estrada. I am prepared to lay out why, and I will do that if necessary, and I am sure others can do it. That is why we should move to more substantive matters.
My friend from New York is here and he knows much more than I do about this judge. I know plenty, but not as much as he does because that is one of his obligations as a Member of the Senate--to take care of judges in the country.
Mr. President, let me just say again that we are not here picking fights that we don't feel are not essential to what we stand for. Not very often do we choose to go to battle--very rarely. There are a lot of these judges I voted against because I don't think they are mainstream judges, but they are judges and they have lifetime appointments. The Democratic leader, supported by his caucus, said there are two judges we are not going to let through: Miguel Estrada-- and we know the conditions there that will not be met--and Priscilla Owen.
It is not as if we are stopping everything going on with judges. When I go home, it is amazing. It happens that people say things and people have written editorials in opposition to my view saying: Isn't it terrible that he is holding up the judges? When I have had the chance to explain that we had approved 109 and turned down 1, that didn't seem too alarming. Now it is 119 to 2. That kind of quiets whole audiences.
The President of the United States was the owner of a baseball team. Boy, I will tell you, he would like to have a batting average with his team members like that, where for every 119 times up to bat, they made outs on only 2 occasions. Not bad. Ted Williams could not match that, Mr. President.
I would hope, again, everyone understands that we are not out cruising for a bruising. We are standing for what we believe is a principle, that we want a judiciary to be as good as it can be. It cannot be our judiciary--we understand that--but there are certain times when we draw a line in the sand. We have done it on two occasions. That is a pretty deep line we have drawn and people should understand that and not waste the time of the Senate.
We have so many other things to do. We have 13 appropriations bills to move. We have one new subcommittee on homeland security. It is going to be extremely difficult. We have a new chairman, a new ranking member. The whole subcommittee is made up of new people. It is going to be difficult to get that bill done. It is going to take some time. We should be moving toward that.
I went to a press conference that was sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus, Hispanic Caucus, Native American Caucus, and Asian Pacific Caucus. They asked me to drop by, and I was happy to do that because it, again, suggested to me that we have to do something about our health care crisis. Forty-five million Americans have no health insurance, none. There are millions more who are underinsured. A significant number of those 45 million and those who are underinsured are people represented by those caucuses because of the diseases that people have in their genes as a result of being of that ethnicity. That is what we should be working on.
The State of Nevada is in desperate shape financially, as are 42 other States in this country. The Republican Governor of the State of Nevada has moved to increase taxes. He is no leftwing Socialist. He is a man who is 65 years old, who spent his entire life helping kids and being an outstanding businessman in the State of Nevada. He said: We are desperate.
One reason they are desperate is the Federal Government has failed the State of Nevada. We have required the State of Nevada to do all kinds of things in homeland security that they are paying for, and we are not helping.
In the Clark County School District there are about 260,000 kids. They are desperate for money. They are talking about creating a 4-day school week. Imagine that. They are talking about dropping band and some athletic programs. People may laugh and say, good, get rid of them, but the way I feel about it is those programs are some of the most important programs young people have. They develop character. It gives them a sense of worth. That is what education is all about.
We passed this Leave No Child Behind Act. It was something that had bipartisan support, but we have not funded it.
Those are the things we should be doing, rather than spending days-- not minutes, not hours, but days--weeks, going into months on Estrada, and I guess Owen. I think it is wrong. We have too many other important things to do.
We have an environment about which we should be concerned. We are not dealing with those issues. Do we need to improve the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act? Do we need to do something about Superfund? As a member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, having been chairman of it twice, there are lots of things we can do, but it cannot be done if we are spending all of our time on two judges who are not going to become the judges that they have been nominated to become. That does not mean that we have ruined the judicial system.
Mr. President, I say through you to the distinguished Senator from Kentucky, I don't think we can work out any time agreement. I have said so publicly. There have been a number of statements on the floor today. As I told Senator Hatch, there simply would be no time agreement ever on Priscilla Owen.