Mr. President, I thank the Senator for her good words. Needless to say, I agree with the Senator and I hope that sometime tomorrow an overwhelming number of Senators from both sides of the aisle will do likewise. Mr. President, I rise in…
Mr. President, I thank the Senator for her good words. Needless to say, I agree with the Senator and I hope that sometime tomorrow an overwhelming number of Senators from both sides of the aisle will do likewise.
Mr. President, I rise in behalf of the President's nominee for Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales. I have read as much as I could about his background and his life. Most importantly, I have read what those who have lived and worked with him during his life have had to say about him, and I will read what they have had to say about him shortly.
From everything I have read and learned, I have concluded that some on that side of the aisle oppose him for totally personal, partisan, and political reasons, no question about it. I do not want to speculate as to why because it is really inconceivable to me that Democrats would do what they are doing to this man.
For decades, they used to talk about the Democrat Party being the party of Hispanics, as if it were just as natural and normal as day follows night that Hispanics, that minority which is growing, just ought to be Democrats.
Well, something has happened a little bit. Some change is occurring, and sure enough this President is tinkering with that toy of theirs. He is appointing more qualified Hispanics to high office than any of their Presidents ever have. My colleagues cannot say Alberto Gonzales was nominated just because he is a minority with the name Gonzales, because every single qualification that one would require he has met.
Did the American Bar Association approve? Absolutely. What did the bar of Texas think about him? They named him to one of their highest offices before we ever thought of him. What about law firms in Texas? He has been a member of the best law firms there are. What about judicial temperament? He sat on the highest civil and criminal court in the big, great State of Texas. Now, they did not all do that because his name is Gonzales, but it just happens that it is.
Nor did they approve of him because he was born in poverty, because his parents did not speak English, or because he lived in a house without running water. They did not approve of him because of that. They approved of him because he was qualified.
So then one might ask, what is all this objection about? It seems as if there is an idea that for some reason or another he has had a bad impact on our country's name because he is for torturing prisoners, or if I am reading too much into that then maybe it is he set a bad example which hurt America because people perceived he was for torturing prisoners and he did not do anything about it.
Based on the record, based on the law, based on the interpretation of the law, that is about as flimsy a reason as one could ever have for not approving this man to be Attorney General.
First, I do not want to take a lot of time. It is late. We have heard a lot. I did not come here without checking a few things. I find that most authentic and reliable discerners, interpreters of the legal consequences of the Geneva Convention conclude that the Geneva Convention does not apply to these kinds of captives.
I do not know how else to say it. There is opinion after opinion, interpretation after interpretation, that the title which talks about the care and how one must treat prisoners of war does not apply to terrorists. I will insert in the Record three different leading scholarly statements that say that is the case. Now, that is logical.
One might say, well, is America for torture? No. That is not logical. What is logical is when the Geneva Conventions were drawn, we were talking about prisoners of war such as those in the First and the Second World Wars, where literally thousands of soldiers belonging to an army of another nation were gathered and this was to say that you have to treat them a certain way. They belong to a country. Terrorists do not belong to any country. They are not fighting a war for a country. They are not part of an organized military that you capture.
I don't need to go into all that. I can just say, that is a bum rap, to say he should not be Attorney General because he might have said or signed a memo that said we do not need to apply the Geneva Conventions to these captives. If that were the case, that should not disqualify him because that is the predominant law, interpretive law of that convention.
Then we say: Senator, you are not saying, since that is not the case, you are free to do whatever you want to prisoners? Not at all. There still is a rule of law regarding the treatment of prisoners. I do not think anybody can rightfully get up and say Alberto Gonzales promoted or implicitly promoted treating these kind of captives any old way you want. I do not believe that is the case.
So I don't know what we are talking about. There might be something. There might be something. It might be that there has been a decision on that side of the aisle to just make every appointment of the President difficult, or anyone they can find the least thing about, make it difficult. Let me say, I don't think it does them any good. I don't think the American people, 2 weeks from now, are going to think this effort on their part did anything to hurt this man or hurt our President. What I am concerned about is whether the Democratic Party thinks it is going to help them because I do think it is another opportunity for Hispanics to say, Why should we be Democrats? I think that is giving that nail another nice pound with a nice strong hammer. I do not think there is any question about that.
I do think there is a growing concern on that side of the aisle as to who is going to be the next Supreme Court Justice. I know some might say: Senator Domenici, get off that.
No, no, every time you get in corners, little corners where people are talking up here, the subject is, who do you think the President can appoint
who can get by the Senate? There was a lot of talk up here that maybe Alberto Gonzales was that person. I don't know that. It looks to me, based on his history, based on his background, based on his relationship with the President, he might be. But maybe, if you make enough noise about him and attempt to stick enough signs up on a billboard saying he is this, that, or the other, maybe he will not be a candidate, a probable candidate anymore. That could be what some people think. I do not know. I hope it is not, and I hope, in spite of what has happened, it doesn't.
I am not here as his champion for that job. That is the President's job. But I think it would be terrific if the President of the United States followed up on all the things he has done to prove that he has no discrimination about his personal being and no discrimination that stems from his party, or Republicans. He is open. He has, in his Cabinet, we all know, a distinguished group of Americans who are minorities. This would be another one.
I want to close by saying I am very pleased that a lot of organizations in this country, and a lot of distinguished people have not bought the arguments made by the other side because they know him, they like him, they are familiar with him, they trust him, and they want him to be Attorney General.
Let me say first, about Henry Cisneros--a lot of Americans and a lot of Hispanic Americans know who he is. He had a little downfall in his career, but he is a very considerate, intelligent, concerned Hispanic American from the State of Texas. He is the former mayor of San Antonio and a former Cabinet member, Democratic Presidential appointee.
I will not make his letter part of the Record since it has already been printed in the Record. It is dated January 5, 2005, to the Wall Street Journal.
This is a tremendous examination of who this nominee is, what he has done, what he has demonstrated, and the conclusion that it will be good for America to have an Attorney General who has memories like those-- having stated his upbringing and the like--
. . . because he can rely on those memories to understand
the realities that many Americans still confront in their
lives. I believe he will apply those life experiences to the
work ahead. His confirmation by the Senate can be part of
America's steady march toward liberty and justice for all.
That is not a Republican, that is not the President, that is Henry Cisneros. He signs it: Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under President Clinton, mayor of San Antonio, TX, from 1981 through 1989.
Mr. Gonzales, in 1989, was recognized as the Latino Lawyer of the Year by the Hispanic National Bar Association and received a Presidential citation from the State Bar of Texas in 1997 for his dedication in addressing the basic legal needs of the indigent. He was chosen as one of the five outstanding young Texans by the Texas JCs, and an Outstanding Young Lawyer of Texas. He was also suggested as the Texas Young Lawyer by their association.
There are many more. I merely read these, and you know that they all are giving accolades, and that those who are giving accolades or giving awards are Hispanic. They are Hispanic organizations, Hispanic individuals. I think that means something. We are very proud as Republicans that the minority Hispanics in America are thrilled with this appointment.
I looked very carefully at a couple of organizations that have been cited or if not should be cited as being opposed to him. I would be remiss if I didn't tell you I would expect that they would be because they are so Democratic, I don't think they could be for a Republican Felix Frankfurter to be U.S. Attorney General if he were Republican. A couple of these Spanish organizations are so devoted to Democrats, they could not be for a Hispanic U.S. Attorney General if he were Republican no matter what his name is. So it doesn't bother me that two of them are.
But the League of United Latin American Citizens--LULAC, they are for him. The National Council of La Raza--whether you agree with any of these or not--is for him. The Hispanic National Bar Association is for him. The National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, they are for him. The U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce is for him.
I can go on. There are eight more. I ask unanimous consent the list in its entirety be printed in the Record.
There is a congressional Hispanic caucus which was among those that I was mentioning a while ago. They endorsed Senator Kerry, supported him, campaigned for him. I wouldn't expect them to be for this nominee.
I think I said most of what I wanted to say to the Senate for those who are interested in the other side of the coin from what the Democrats--small in number but by sufficient numbers--want to make a lot of people in the country think, that this man should not have this job.
I think they are wrong. I think the Hispanic community of America should know that they are wrong. I think the Hispanic community of America should know that most people who are concerned about them-- Hispanic Americans--are for him. I think they could rightfully conclude that those who are not for him don't care about Hispanic Americans because most of them overwhelmingly think he is the right man for this job.
I thank the Senate for the few moments I have had to discuss this matter and hope that my few words will have something to do with adding to the chorus of support for this candidate, and for some of those who listened to that which is said against him will at least think if they were leaning toward believing that, that there really is another side; and that real side is probably somewhere close to what I said in the last 10 minutes.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, will the Senator yield for 1 minute?
I don't want to take the Senator's right to the floor under any circumstances.
First, I ask to speak to ask the Senator a question right now, because I can't stay. I want the Senator to know that I always appreciate his remarks. They always stimulate me, whatever the Senator thinks that means. Maybe it stimulates me to answer; maybe it makes me get red in the face. I don't know.
Anyway, I don't think my remarks were principally devoted to--in fact, only mildly devoted to--the delay that may be taking place with regard to some nominees. I stand on that premise--that there have been delays that were uncalled for. But that was the principal point.
I hope that nobody would let the distinguished Senator kind of avoid the issue. That is not the issue Senator Domenici raises.
The issue is that this man is totally qualified; that those who know him best say he is qualified. It appears that those on the other side of the aisle want to see him defeated, or put upon by their arguments such that he doesn't go into that office strong and full of support but, rather, nicked by attacks that are meaningless and without any merit. That is the argument.
I tried to tell everybody who is for him. Frankly, they knew him a lot better than any Senators knew him. Many of them like Cisneros knew him for 15 years--and what he said about him on January 5, not 10 years ago, what he was, what he wasn't, how good he was.
That was my argument. My argument and question was, Why? Maybe that is my question. I thank the Senator for yielding.