Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that the remainder of title I of the bill through page 34, line 11, be considered as read, printed in the Record, and open to amendment at any point. Mr.…
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that the remainder of title I of the bill through page 34, line 11, be considered as read, printed in the Record, and open to amendment at any point.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 30 seconds.
The committee is dedicated to addressing the methamphetamine problem; and now with the additional funds freed by the amendment, we can dedicate more funds to combat the meth problem. So I am offering this amendment which adds $34 million to the COPS program to combat meth production and trafficking and enhance policing initiatives.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in very strong opposition to the amendment. It would inflict a major blow to the Nation's basic scientific research. The Nation has reached a crisis point in terms of science and technology. Any advantage that we have enjoyed is rapidly eroding.
The research budget should be considered part of the national security budget. It is the most strategic investment we make in maintaining America's leadership in the world. We worked hard within our limited allocation to provide an increased funding level in the bill for NSF's basic scientific research, $157 million above last year's level. Every outside group said this is good. It is above what the Bush administration had, and to take it out now would send a message to the scientific community and the university community that would demoralize them. It would make us a second- and third-rate Nation. I urge a strong ``no'' vote on the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Boehlert), chairman of the Committee on Science and one who knows so much about this issue.
(Mr. BOEHLERT asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
I want to thank the gentleman from Wisconsin for his comments.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Culberson).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Ehlers), who has been a leader on this issue.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that title II of the bill through page 52, line 17, be considered as read, printed in the Record, and open to amendment at any point.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I was led to believe the gentleman was going to withdraw the amendment. In the interest of time, I would just say that I understand what the gentleman is saying. He makes some very valid points. We can look into that. But if the gentleman is going to withdraw it, I will not take the body's time.
I yield to the gentleman from Florida.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 3 minutes.
I rise in opposition to the gentleman's amendment. The amendment cuts the Bureau of Industry and Security by over 6 percent. What does that mean, because it does not sound that it is that significant? A cut of $5 million to the Bureau of Industry and Security would severely diminish efforts to deter weapons of mass destruction proliferation, would prevent sensitive dual-use items from falling into the hands of terrorists, and enforces the anti-boycott laws of the United States.
Some think that the Bureau of Industry and Security is actually too weak, and I may be in that category. American industry is being hampered in the international marketplace by the long processing time of export license applications. This amendment would roll back the progress that we have made in reducing the average processing time from 44 days to 32 days since 2003. With additional money we could probably get that down.
The trade deficit, the trade imbalance, this would really create a greater problem to deal with that. Quite frankly, I do not think this administration has done enough to deal with the trade deficit, the trade imbalance. So to take $5 million from the Bureau of Industry and Security would severely diminish our ability both on looking at weapons of mass destruction and technology and also hamper American business at the very time when we are urging them to sell American products abroad.
I understand the gentleman makes some good points with regard to the Coastal Zone Management, and maybe we can look at that as we go into conference. But I would not want to take that from here. I urge a ``no'' vote on the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from West Virginia (Mr. Mollohan).
Mr. Chairman, I think all that is needed to be said has been said. I urge a ``no'' vote on the amendment, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, there is no amendment. We were going to reserve a point of order on it. But I just want the Record to show, and I appreciate the gentleman's comments, that the bill provides $800 million for the Marshals Service, which is $41 million above the current year and $10 million above the request. This is in addition to the $12 million provided in the war supplemental for judicial security.
So with that I just thank the gentleman for his comments.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, the amendment strikes $200 million from the International Organization Account under State Department. Quite frankly, this would be devastating for the gentleman from Illinois (Chairman Hyde), who is bringing his bill up tomorrow.
This bill already, the bill we are now dealing with today, cuts $130 million from the President's request for international organizations. These cuts in the amendment offered by my good friend from Arizona would have a direct impact on critical organizations such as NATO, whose members are now providing training and support in Iraq and Afghanistan. Last night I heard the President talk about the success that is taking place in Afghanistan, and this amendment literally would try to take that success away. Further cutting this funding jeopardizes the effort.
Lastly, this body should know that along with the gentleman from New York (Mr. Serrano), as ranking member, we had in our bill last year a task force chaired by Speaker Gingrich and Majority Leader Mitchell that just reported today. I read their entire report over the weekend on dramatic reforms to the U.N.
At a press conference today at 10 o'clock, I made the comments that because of the failure of the U.N. to deal with Darfur, and nobody has been more critical in this institution of the U.N. than I have, I led the first delegation to Darfur where genocide is taking place, we went through all those, but we set up the Gingrich-Mitchell task force of the bipartisan AEI, Heritage and all the groups like that, they have now come up with recommendations that will embolden the administration and this Congress to make sure that the reform is done.
Also, how can we even be dealing with this amendment today when the chairman of the Committee on International Relations is bringing his U.N. reform bill to the House floor this Thursday? The gentleman from Illinois (Chairman Hyde), God bless him and his committee, worked hard to ensure that reform takes place in the U.N. To take this amendment before the Hyde bill comes up is not only putting the cart before the horse, it just does not make any sense.
The bill of the gentleman from Illinois (Chairman Hyde), as the committee and Members know, requires
that 39 reforms must take place, and the Secretary of State must certify that these reforms have taken place. So with the Hyde bill and the Gingrich-Mitchell task force today, there will be reforms, but to just come in now before Mr. Hyde has an opportunity would be a mistake.
I know what the gentleman is trying to do, because I care desperately about Darfur. I led the first delegation to Darfur. I have been critical of the U.N., with the failure to address the issue of hunger. We had hunger in 1984 in Ethiopia when I was there, hunger 2\1/2\ years ago, and now hunger again; also there is a problem with the sexual predators who were U.N. peacekeepers in the Congo. But all of those issues, every one of those issues, are dealt with in the Gingrich- Mitchell task force that came out today, and dealt with in the resolution by the gentleman from Illinois (Chairman Hyde) that will come up either tomorrow or Friday.
So I understand what the gentleman's problems are, but this would not be a good thing to do. So I would ask Members on both sides, as good as the gentleman's intentions are, to just reject this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
How much time do I have, Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Kolbe).
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word in order to yield to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Serrano); but before I do, if I could just say one thing. The gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hyde) spent a lot of time on this issue, and when a gentleman has worked to the degree that the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hyde) has, he ought to have a clear shot at the opportunity to pick it up.
Secondly, the Gingrich-Mitchell Task Force report has not been watered down. It is tough. And the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King) mentioned democracy. In the Gingrich-Mitchell report, there is a whole chapter urging the United States to push for the abolition of the Human Rights Commission, which Sudan was the chairman of and on, and Libya was on, and instead set up a democracy caucus, and also have someone in New York who would be working with the democracy.
Also, the gentleman from Arizona mentioned that we were told to wait. We did wait. He voted for the bill last year that set up the Gingrich- Mitchell Task Force, and that is what we have done. So nobody told the gentleman to wait. We acted based on something, and I would have acted whether we told the gentleman to act or not because I had concerns. I saw the suffering in Darfur, I know all about that; I have been to the Congo and saw it, but do
not cut the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hyde) out. I urge a ``no'' vote.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Serrano).
I yield to the gentleman from Arizona.
Mr. Chairman, how much time remains?
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I appreciate the gentleman offering the amendment. The fact that it is offered and, hopefully, defeated on behalf of the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hyde) and others, will put pressure on. I think the U.N. will have an obligation to adopt the Gingrich-Mitchell recommendations and, also, the administration will have an opportunity, but also an obligation to do that, because the U.N. has failed. It failed in Darfur, it failed in Rwanda, it failed in Srebrenic, and it failed in Sarajevo. Hopefully, this amendment will fail, and the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hyde) will have an opportunity to have his bill and voted on tomorrow.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the gentleman's amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order.
Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against the amendment because it proposes to change existing law and constitutes legislation in an appropriation bill, and therefore it violates clause 2 of rule
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word. I yield to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Fossella).
(Mr. FOSSELLA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from New York (Mr. Fossella) for bringing this up. We will work with him and see what we can do to help.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, the new markets program was intended to be a pilot project from fiscal year 2001 to 2006. There are still funds available for this program. There is no need to provide additional funds at this time, especially at the expense of terminating over 400 employees at the SBA. This would result in the termination, which would not be good for anyone. These employees work on critical technical assistance and loan programs at the SBA.
The amendment unnecessarily provides funds for a program that has almost $2 million left in its budget for technical assistance and over $3.1 million in loan authority. The program received a one-time funding of $59 million in fiscal year 2001 that has still not been entirely spent.
I urge the Members to reject the amendment. Particularly we would not want to cut employees who work on programs like small business development centers and women's business centers. So I understand what the gentlewoman from Wisconsin (Ms. Moore) is doing, but I would urge that we reject the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time also.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
I yield to the gentleman from Kansas (Mr. Tiahrt), a member of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman and thank him for his comments.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that the remainder of the bill through page 106, line 22, be considered as read and printed in the Record and open to amendment at any point.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that the remainder of the bill through page 108, line 7, be considered as read and printed in the Record and open to amendment at any point.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute, and I rise in opposition to the amendment.
I think Members ought to know that the U.S. State Department lists the Cuban dictatorship as one of five remaining state sponsors of terror. The others are Iran, Libya, North Korea, and Syria.
According to the State Department's most recent patterns of global terrorism, Cuba continues to support foreign terrorist organizations and several terrorists and dozens of fugitives from the U.S., as the gentleman from New York (Mr. Fossella) just spoke.
Also, if anyone is listening on the other side, I have sincerely asked for the opportunity to visit the country of Cuba through the legal ways. Everyone who always wants to lift the sanctions gets to go, but in a sincere effort at going down to find out what happens, I never can go. Something tells me there is something funny about this. We want to go on good faith. We ask to go through the normal process. We cannot get there.
I think this is a bad amendment, and I urge the rejection of it.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ros-Lehtinen).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay), the majority leader.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Lincoln Diaz-Balart).
Mr. Chairman, how much time do I have left?
Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Lincoln Diaz-Balart).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ros-Lehtinen).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Mario Diaz-Balart).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
I rise in strong opposition to the amendment. I would also like to say to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Flake), I would love to go down to Cuba; and I would ask if the gentleman can intercede for both of us to go together, and that would be an unusual trip.
But the gentleman has been there several times.
Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman has been there a couple of times and I have not, maybe the gentleman can try to help me. I would like to go.
Cuba is a source country for children trafficked internally for the purposes of sexual exploitation and forced child labor. Trafficking victims from all over Cuba are exploited in major cities. This government does not give its own people the necessary help.
Cuban forced-labor victims, and this is from the State Department reports, include children coerced into working conditions of involuntary servitude in commercial agriculture.
The Government of Cuba does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking and is not making significant efforts to do so. In 2001, Cuban officials outlined an extensive plan to address the prevention and prosecution of trafficking victims on a national scale, but there is no evidence to show that the plan has been implemented. Cuba has no strategy to address its trafficking problem and growing child sex tourism industry.
Let the Cuban Government deal with eliminating the trafficking of children first. Cuba is in of the State Department's Trafficking in persons report tier 3, which is among the worst in the world. Let them deal with this issue and then perhaps we can see about some of these issues. But I urge strongly a ``no'' vote on this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I think the gentleman's amendment is an excellent amendment, and I accept it and I am glad he offered it.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Peterson).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Souder), who has been a leader on this issue.
(Mr. SOUDER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1\1/2\ minutes.
I rise in opposition to the amendment. Not only does the amendment hurt law enforcement's efforts to combat drug trafficking, but it really sends the wrong message to our children. Marijuana is the most abused drug in the United States. According to the ONDCP and the DEA, more young people are now in treatment for marijuana dependency than for alcohol or all other illegal drugs.
Mr. Chairman, if I could just read that one more time: according to the ONDCP and the DEA, more young people are now in treatment for marijuana dependency than for alcohol or for all other illegal drugs.
This amendment does not address the problem of marijuana abuse, and I know and I want to stipulate that it is not the intention of the authors, but it possibly makes it worse by sending the message to young people that there are going to be health benefits for smoking marijuana. I think it is confusing to young people for the Congress to do that. I understand what the authors of the amendment are trying to do, but it would be confusing and I think the wrong message.
Last year, this amendment failed by a vote of 148 to 268, and I urge rejection of the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from California (Mr. Gallegly).
(Mr. GALLEGLY asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, let me just respond to what the gentleman said about this ``narrow ideology.'' My mom died of cancer, my father died of cancer, there have been many people in my family on my mother's side who died of cancer. I, at one time, supported this and changed my vote in the Congress because I have seen the devastation that drugs can have on young people, the devastation that it is doing to many people.
So people can have differences of opinion. But when the gentleman uses these inflammatory rhetoric of ``narrow ideology,'' it is like all truth is on their side, I think that is really the wrong tone. This is a serious issue. There are good and decent people on both sides. But I think the gentleman's tone and comments were really not exactly accurate.
I care as much about this issue, and I care as much about suffering and pain as the gentleman. I stood with my mom when she died and with my father when he died.
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Souder).
Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order against the gentleman's amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I make a point of order against the amendment because it proposes to change existing law and constitutes legislation in an appropriation bill and therefore violates clause 2 of rule XXI.
The rule states in pertinent part: ``An amendment to a general appropriation bill shall not be in order if changing existing law.''
The amendment proposes to state a legislative provision.
Mr. Chairman, we still reserve a point of order.
I yield to the gentleman from Virginia.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Tom Davis).
I yield to the gentleman from Maryland.
Mr. Chairman, I do. I thank the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Tom Davis) and the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Ruppersberger) for their statements and leadership.
I think by their speaking today it sends a message to the world with regard to the importance of us promoting democracy and freedom in Venezuela. Democracy and human rights, whether it be in Venezuela or any place else, are basic fundamental freedoms that must always be preserved and supported.
The United States should always stand with those fighting for those freedoms. The United States should continue to send a clear message to everyone that we will stand with people like Ms. Machado and others like her who speak out for democracy.
I think what the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Tom Davis) and the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Ruppersberger) have done is send a message to the world. They have sent a message to the National Endowment For Democracy that when there is another grant application, that application should be met so she has that opportunity for freedom.
Mr. Chairman, yes, I would be happy to provide the Committee on Government Reform with information received from the administration regarding e-government initiatives.
Amendment No. 1 Offered by Mr. Chocola
Mr. Chairman, I think this is a good amendment and I accept it.