Department Of Defense Appropriations Act, 2004
Madam President, I send an amendment to the desk on behalf of myself and Senators Specter, Daschle, Byrd, Leahy, Levin, Rockefeller, Corzine, Durbin, and Carper. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that further reading of the…
Madam President, I send an amendment to the desk on behalf of myself and Senators Specter, Daschle, Byrd, Leahy, Levin, Rockefeller, Corzine, Durbin, and Carper.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that further reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Madam President, I came to the floor two days ago to express my concern about the administration's detention policies with respect to three different categories of
individuals, and this is particularly in the period since 9/11.
One of those groups I spoke about was immigrants. There, of course, the concern has been underscored by the report done by the inspector general in the Department of Justice pointing out the abuses that have been engaged in by both the Department of Justice and the FBI with regard to immigrants after the 9/11 tragedy.
Another group I spoke about were material witnesses. There have been several abuses there. In some cases, I think the FBI has acknowledged that. I think, again, we have a serious issue there of adequate attention to civil liberties and human rights.
The third group I spoke about is the group designated by the Department of Defense and the President as so-called enemy combatants. That is a group my amendment deals with today.
The amendment is very straightforward with regard to these individuals. It requires a report. It says to the Department of Defense, the Secretary of Defense, give the appropriate committees of the Congress a report within 90 days of the time this law becomes effective. The report shall indicate who these people are that the administration has designated as enemy combatants, and it shall tell us what plans the Department has with regard to charging these individuals with crimes, with regard to trying them for those crimes, and if there is an intention to repatriate some of these individuals to particular countries, to please advise us of that, but tell us something about who these individuals are and what you intend to do with them. That is the thrust of the amendment.
There is a proviso in the amendment that says if there is a national security problem that the Department or the Secretary of Defense sees in giving us any of this information, of course, that doesn't need to be included in the unclassified version of the report. That could be kept in a separate, classified annex and assigned whatever classification the Secretary determines is appropriate.
The administration is holding 3 individuals today--that I am aware of--in the United States as enemy combatants and is holding close to 700 at our military base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. In all cases, these individuals are being called incommunicado. They are given no access to counsel and no opportunity for judicial review as yet.
Let me say what I think should be obvious to everybody, and that is that I am not advocating that these individuals be released. What I am saying is that we should afford them the right to be charged with a crime. Tell us what action they have taken that justifies their incarceration, and set up some opportunity for them to be tried for those actions. Many of these enemy combatants have been in custody by our Government for well over 18 months--in some cases over 20 months.
President Bush announced recently--in the last 2 weeks--that 6 of the 700 or so of these enemy combatants will be tried by a military tribunal. As far as I know, there has been no indication yet as to what they will be tried for. There is no indication yet, or designation, or appointment of a military tribunal or commission to do the trying of these individuals. There has been no date set for these trials. But the President has said that 6 of the 680 or 700 individuals are eligible--I believe that is the phrase used by the Department of Defense and the White House--to be tried by military tribunals.
There are serious questions about how those tribunals will function, and I am sure there will be many debates about that. Even more serious is a question relating to those who remain in jail, who have not--as yet at least--been given any indication of charges, any indication of when trials might be conducted in relation to them.
The obvious question we need to be asking--we in the Congress--since we have an oversight responsibility over the administration, the executive branch, is, Where does the Government or this administration intend to go with regard to these individuals?
So far, the administration takes the position that once the President says someone is an enemy combatant, they can keep them incarcerated, presumably until the war on terrorism is over. But the President has said--and I think he is probably right--this war on terrorism is of indefinite duration; it is not a war that we can see the end of--at least not in the near future. It appears to be the President's view and the administration's view that these individuals can be kept as prisoners from now on, without the administration having an obligation to say who they are, without the administration having an obligation to charge them with a crime, without the administration having any obligation to afford them a hearing.
The administration takes the view that they do not come under the Geneva Convention, but evidently they come under none of the other procedural requirements that we have always thought applied in our system either.
In my view, this is not a tenable position. It is not consistent with the commitment to liberty and the rule of law on which this country was founded. We demand that other governments show greater respect for human rights than this, and we should be demanding better from our own Government as well.
The amendment is very straightforward and very modest, in my view. It simply says that the Secretary of Defense shall provide us with a report on the status of these detainees--provide that to the relevant committees of the Congress. Under the amendment, the report should include the name and nationality of the individuals involved, a statement as to whether our Government intends to charge them with some offense, or intends to repatriate them, or intends to release them-- whatever action we intend to engage in.
There is nothing in the amendment that biases what is done with these individuals in any way. In the case of the individuals for whom such a determination has not been made, we ask for a description of the process the Department of Defense is intending to follow and the timeline for actually making a decision regarding these individuals.
Madam President, I believe strongly that we have an obligation to require some accountability with regard to this set of individuals.
We have made provision in the amendment, as I said before, so that the Secretary can withhold any information from any report he deems to be information necessary to withhold for national security reasons.
The administration, in my view, needs to take some action and needs to advise the Congress on what it is doing with these people. If the individuals have committed crimes, let's see them charged with crimes. If they have not committed crimes, let's see them repatriated. Let's see some action taken. We in Congress need to understand what that action is. That is the thrust of the amendment. I hope it will receive broad bipartisan support.
I appreciate Senator Specter cosponsoring the amendment, as well as the other Members I mentioned. I believe there is at least one other Member who wishes to speak in behalf of the amendment. So I reserve the remainder of my time.
How much time remains?
I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Madam President, I will respond to a few of the points my colleagues from Alaska and Hawaii made. First, I will say what this amendment does not do. There is nothing in this amendment that restricts what action the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, or any other agency of the Government is permitted to take with regard to these enemy combatants. This is an amendment that asks for a report. It does not say certain action has to be taken with regard to these individuals. It says tell us the status.
Second, there is nothing in this amendment that affects court cases. If there are court cases related to any of these enemy combatants, then it is perfectly appropriate for the Justice Department to indicate who the person is or which individuals are involved and say they are subject to pending litigation, if that is the case. But the reality is, if one is designated an enemy combatant, they are taken out of the court system. That designation takes one out of the court system and puts them in the custody of the military. It is the position of our military that from that point on, one has no right to a hearing, no right to be charged, is an enemy combatant, and accordingly they will deal with them as they choose.
The Senator from Alaska says this is something that is probably in the jurisdiction of the Department of Justice. I think that sort of makes my case. These people are in nowhere land. They are in limbo.
There is an article that came out in the morning paper in my home State in Albuquerque where there was a little report on the speech I gave 2 days ago talking about this problem, and I will read a sentence from that report: White House spokesman Taylor Gross referred questions about Bingaman's speech and proposed amendment to the Justice and Defense Departments. A Justice Department spokeswoman referred questions to the Defense Department. A spokesman for the Defense Department declined to comment.
The reality is, we are allowing the administration to put these people in a category and then take the position that no rights apply to these individuals. There is no obligation on the Department of Justice to follow procedures with regard to these individuals. There is no obligation on the Department of Defense.
There is nothing in my amendment that questions the treatment of these individuals. Others have questioned the treatment of these individuals. I have not questioned the treatment of these individuals in Guantanamo. There is nothing in the amendment that questions the treatment of these individuals.
Also, the point my good friend from Hawaii has made, that this would give al-Qaida or some other terrorist organization information that could be useful to them about when individuals might be released, first, we have a proviso that anything the Department of Defense determines might be contrary to national security, they should keep it classified. They can give it any level of classification they want to give it. If they want to say it is code level classification, they can do that, whatever classification they think is appropriate.
I am glad to yield to my colleague from Illinois.
Madam President, in response to that question, let me say that is exactly right. We have gone out of our way to make it clear the Departments can keep secret, can keep code classification, whatever classification level the Department decides is appropriate, any information they think is vital to our national security. So we are saying, as to the information that is not of that type, tell us what can be told about who these people are and what the intent is as far as what to do with them.
Madam President, in response to that follow-on question, that is exactly correct. The Senator from Illinois is exactly right in pointing out that in what we are trying to do, we are not-- this is not an amendment I am offering 6 weeks after the 9/11 tragedy. This is an amendment I am offering 20 months or more after the 9/11 tragedy. We know that many of these individuals have been there well over a year and a half. It is time that we in Congress exercise our oversight responsibility and say: Who are they? What are they intending to be charged with? I do not anticipate that these are individuals we are going to some day say we have decided to release. I assume that we have them there for good reason, and that we are going to prosecute them and that we are going to find them guilty. That is my assumption, assuming the system works as it is intended to work.
So my thought is, let's get some idea of where we are going so that we begin to build in some accountability and begin to recognize what we historically have recognized, and that is that there are certain legal protections that apply if one is jailed by the United States Government. There are certain legal rights that we will be afforded.
In response to the question, I think the Senator from Illinois makes a very good point. If we are going to proclaim our commitment to liberty and to freedom as we always have, and as I certainly want to be able to do, and if we are going to insist that U.S. citizens, when they are captured
in overseas incidents, whether they be military or civilian, that they be given some reasonable treatment through the court systems of those countries, then we have to have some adherence to reasonable legal process for these individuals that we have incarcerated. That is all I am asking. Tell us what we are going to do. If they come back and say we are not going to do anything, then we can see whether a follow-on amendment or follow-on action is appropriate.
This amendment simply says, give us a report. Tell us the status of these individuals; tell us your plans with regard to these individuals; or give us some idea whether or not you are going to charge them. If you are going to charge them with something, tell us what you might charge them with. If you decide to make that decision later on, tell us when you might decide to make that decision.
It is the most modest of amendments. I hope very much it will be supported by my colleagues on a bipartisan basis.
How much time remains?
I retain that and I yield the floor.
I appreciate the courtesy. I will use my remaining 50 seconds.
Madam President, first of all, if the Secretary of Defense believes the release of any of these names compromises our national security, he is given full reign to keep that information classified at any level of classification he decides is appropriate. So we are not in any way interfering with national security.
In my view, it is not appropriate for us to say, look, if you want to check on them, get on a plane and go down to Guantanamo. We and the American people need to be persuaded there is some adequate due process and legal process being followed.
Regarding the idea of these military tribunals, there have been no tribunals established. The President said 6 individuals out of the nearly 700 are eligible to be considered or to be tried by military tribunals. There are no military tribunals established.
I urge support for the amendment and I yield the floor.
Mr. President, this is a very straightforward amendment which just requires a report from the Secretary of Defense on those people we are incarcerating under the status of ``enemy combatant'' and what our intentions are with regard to charging them or making a decision on charging them.
We have a proviso in there that if the release of any of this information will jeopardize national security, the Secretary can withhold that and put it in a classified annex and give it any level of classification the Secretary determines is appropriate.
So it seems to me essential that the Congress exercise some oversight of this process. If we are going to be a nation that stands for liberty and freedom and legal process, then we ought to ensure that everyone who has been taken into custody in our country be afforded some legal protection. There are no military tribunals that have been established. The problem is not resolved. We should ask for this report.