Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment that would provide $7 million of the amount appropriated in the Department of Veterans Affairs' VA Minor Construction account. These moneys shall be used for…
Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment that would provide $7 million of the amount appropriated in the Department of Veterans Affairs' VA Minor Construction account. These moneys shall be used for the VA to install alternative fueling stations at 35 of its medical facility campuses across the country. This is one of many measures that can be taken to address the impact of the rising energy prices and to alleviate our Nation's dependence on foreign oil.
We have an energy crisis in this country, and unfortunately, some are not taking action before we leave on this August break. The House will recess, and we'll go 5 weeks, and we'll not be taking up meaningful energy legislation, but we have an opportunity tonight.
It was in 2007 that President Bush issued executive order 13423, ``strengthening Federal environment, energy and transportation management,'' mandating a reduction of the amount of petroleum consumption for Federal transportation.
In compliance with the President's order, the VA has taken steps to install E-85, ethanol fueling stations, at six VA medical centers--in Altoona, Pennsylvania, in Augusta, Georgia, in Cleveland, Ohio, in Danville, Illinois, in Little Rock, Arkansas, and most recently in San Francisco, California.
I would think that Speaker Pelosi would want other VA facilities in other States and members' districts to have the very same fueling stations that are available at the San Francisco VA medical center in her own congressional district.
According to the VA, it has nearly 11,000 vehicles that collectively travel more than 100 million miles a year. The VA acquired over 1,000 Alternative Fuel Vehicles in FY 2007, and 99 percent of these are flexible fuel vehicles that can use E-85. The installation of alternative fuel stations at more VA sites would have a huge impact on the reduction of greenhouse gases and in the amount of petroleum consumed. Based on recent discussions with the Department, I am confident that, if funding is provided, the VA could install alternative fueling stations at the 35 additional sites.
Mr. Edwards knows full well that he is about $662 million above the President's request and nearly $361 million more than in FY 2008.
So, again, in facing the tremendous energy challenge in this Nation, we must act collectively in a bipartisan fashion to reduce our dependence on bad actors around the world that control our energy supplies. There are more than a dozen alternative and advanced fuels in production and that used today, one of which is E-85, an 85 percent ethanol mixture, which in the United States is based primarily on corn. Investing in the use of alternative transportation fuel services is one way to help increase the supply of American-made fuel.
I think Mr. Edwards and I would agree we're anxious to get to nonedible fiber--cellulosic ethanol.
This use of renewable domestic energy sources will contribute to an enhancement of energy security, and it will reduce the reliance on foreign oil. The installation of alternative fueling stations on VA campuses will reduce greenhouse emissions and the VA's gasoline costs, and it will provide funds for direct health care services for the men and women who have taken the oath to defend the freedoms and our way of life.
I urge my colleagues to support the amendment.
I yield to the gentleman.
I thank the gentleman.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
I would like to thank Chairman Chet Edwards. I would like to thank Zach Wamp. And to my good friend from Texas that I've worked with for many years, we have a challenge in front of us with regard to an amendment. And the challenge is that I've prepared an amendment that $150 million, Mr. Chairman, would be dedicated under the minor construction account--for which there's a lot of dollars here--for the installation of appropriate solar electric energy roof applications.
Now, we had several meetings, Chairman Edwards, with a lot of lawyers, and the lawyers were looking at the applications of the rules and the processes. The interesting thing is, when we drafted the amendment--we're having the conversation that you said we didn't have time to do in private, so we're having to do it in public. So I have to do it now before we actually get into the details of the amendment.
So when I did the amendment, we put it at the end, on page 41 here, line 14. Now, when I put it there on the applications of solar, my assumption is that when you then look at all the general authorities, section 316, that's about colocation authority; section 2404, that's administration; 2406 is acquisition; 8102 is also acquisition--one is acquisition of land, 2406; 8102 is acquisition of medical facilities; 8103, that's minor construction. All these other sections have nothing to do with solar.
So my assumption, Mr. Chairman, when I put this in here, I did not put at the end of the amendment ``at VA medical facilities.'' My assumption is that, well, we're not going to put it on tombstones, we're not going to put it in a parking lot, and it doesn't apply anywhere else.
But when I talked with the lawyers, they're like, you know, Steve, you just can't do it like that. And you need to actually have at the end the words ``at VA medical facilities.'' So now I've got myself in a bit of a jam.
Now, Mr. Edwards, we can do this several ways: I could offer the amendment. I could then present all the arguments of solar and what the VA is presently doing in the 16 sites that they're proceeding with. And if you say, well, but I don't like the amount, I could do a UC, we could agree to a particular amount, we could add the language. We go to conference. If you say, nope, we're not going to have anything, okay. Well, what could I do? I could look at your language--which is general language--and say, well, that's fine; whatever you do at conference, that's fine with me. I'll just go down and I'll work with the Secretary. I'll negotiate with the Secretary and I'll take whatever those monies are and we'll do it that way.
But what I want to do with you, Chairman Edwards, is that you and I have worked together a lot over the years. And you and I are in agreement when it comes to alternative sources of energy. So let's be practical. If you want to say to me, Steve, don't do $150 million; lower the amount, add the language, we'll work this out in conference and we'll work with the Secretary, that's how we work these things out.
I yield to the gentleman from Tennessee.
I would like to reclaim my time and now have a conversation with the chairman. You said you wanted to have one.
I'm going to give great deference here, which way do you want me to go?
Reclaiming my time, when I make the UC to add ``at VA medical facilities,'' what amount do you feel is reasonable?
I yield to the chairman.
What amount do you think is reasonable?
I reclaim my time. I will offer the amendment, we'll go through the procedures, we'll talk about solar, and we'll work with you as we go to conference. If it's not there, I'll just go right down Pennsylvania Avenue and I'll work with the administration and we'll get the number necessary to fund the 16 sites. That's how the town works.
Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
Mr. Chairman, my amendment would provide $150 million of the amount appropriated in the Department of Veterans Affairs minor construction account for the installation of solar electronic roof applications.
Qualified solar technologies to be considered included, but not limited to,
distributed thin-film solar, amorphous crystalline, nano photovoltaic, and technology systems. What we're trying to do is harness the energy of the sun.
Alternative and renewable sources, such as solar power--whether it's wind, geothermal, hydrogen, biomass--all of these are extremely important. They play an important role in addressing rising energy prices and alleviate our Nation's dependence on foreign oil.
We have an energy crisis in this country. Peak oil is approaching year 2037. We need to rebalance the Nation's portfolio. And in order to do that, we increase our Nation's energy supply to bridge ourselves beyond the alternative energy future in which we seek. We must begin to act and to take decisive measures to address the impact of high energy costs on the Department of Veterans Affairs.
VA medical centers consume large amounts of energy, especially for advanced technologies such as CAT scans, MRIs, that are necessary to provide state-of-the-art medical technologies.
Between 2005 and 2007, VA's energy costs increased by 20 percent. Last year, the VA identified 16 potential sites for solar projects. It's in Calverton, New York; Gustine, California; Phoenix, Arizona; Fresno, California; West Los Angeles, California; Loma Linda, California; Long Beach, California; Dallas, Texas; Palo Alto, California; Sheridan, Wyoming; Reno, Nevada; Tucson, Arizona; Syracuse, New York; Buffalo, New York; West Haven, Connecticut; and Albany, New York. Yes, I am on the floor asking that we fund 11 Democrat districts and five Republican.
Last year, when they identified these, they did feasibility studies with regard to these 16 sites. This summer, the VA plans to move forward to install rooftop solar systems at two sites, Loma Linda and Dallas.
Solar technologies, they diversify our energy supply, they reduce our dependence on imported fuels, improve our air quality, and offset greenhouse gases.
And I'm also interested that, as we move toward American-made energy solutions, that we buy solar systems that are made in America, not ones that are made in China or in Germany or in other places. We should do it here.
At this point, I would like to clarify the amendment. I ask unanimous consent that at the end of my amendment, after the word ``applications,'' insert the following: ``At VA medical facilities.''
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to strike the amount of $150 million and insert the amount of $75 million.
Mr. Chairman, it is important that we continue to invest now to reduce the energy costs into the future. The opportunity to employ this technology at the VA, the second largest department within the Federal Government, is now.
Now, I had hoped that we could have done this tonight. I'll continue to work with you, Mr. Chairman.
To the country, this isn't a good message to send. I will speak with the Secretary in the morning. I will work with him. I will let him know that you're sending down $662 million above the President's request, $361 million more than FY08. And because he has, right now, these 16 projects, I believe there's more than sufficient funds here to move on solar applications.
I would have hoped that we could have done this in a bipartisan fashion; that is really unfortunate. And I will work with the Secretary to ensure that alternative sources of energy are used in the VA.
With that, I yield back my time.
Will the gentleman yield?
I would like to speak on the point of order.
First, it's very unfortunate that solar would be kicked out on an attempt of a technicality. Let me go right to the point of order.
The amendment refers to title 38, U.S. Code, Section 8103. It provides VA the authority to ``construct'' and ``alter.'' So you can see that in the very first line; so 8103(a)(1) ``may construct or alter any medical facility.'' Now, it's any medical facility as the Secretary considers necessary for use of the site. Section 8101 of title 38, United States Code, defines the term ``alter'' with respect to medical facility means to repair, remodel, improve, or extend. So this section 8103 is general authority. Specific authority would come under--and this is minor construction. So under general authority, the Secretary has great discretion. With regard to specific authority, it would come under Section 8104. That would be designations of CBOCs, anything above $10 million comes under Section 8104.
What I refer to, and this is what the Parliamentarians make sure everybody has, it's the House Practice guide, the Guide to the Rules, Precedents, and Procedures of the House. So when I go to page 84, the authorization from specific statutes in this paragraph, Mr. Chairman, so this was page 84, and it's entitled under Authorization From Specific Statutes Or General Existing Law; so what I have done is refer to the general law, not the specific. This is the general law. ``Authorization for a program may be derived from a specific law providing authority for that particular program or from a more general existing law,'' which means organic law, or ``authorizing appropriations for such programs.''
So what's happened over the years, it's not like the Armed Services Committee, Chairman Edwards.
Mr. Chairman, we don't bring that annual VA authorization bill. So what has happened over the decades, Mr. Chairman, is that we have always relied on the 8103 as the general authority provision.
Now, if you say, well, Steve, when you look at this amendment, when you look at the amendment, because you don't put ``VA facility'' at the end, well, then we might interpret that as applications to all other sections. Mr. Chairman, that's why I said the mistake that was made was, was that all of these other sections don't even apply to solar. There's only one of these sections that would apply to solar, and that is the medical facilities section, and that is the 8103.
So my appeal to you is that by putting this solar amendment here at the end of the paragraph, there is only one section here in which it applies to, and that's section 8103.
So when the chairman said you don't have the authorization, I would appeal to the Chair that general authority exists within the minor construction statute for us to do this, and that would be my argument on the point of order.
I move to appeal the ruling of the Chair.
Mr. Chairman, I will withdraw my motion to appeal the ruling.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Part of the challenges that we have been dealing with, some have to do with fiction. The Speaker was just on the floor and referred to promises. If the Speaker would not leave the floor--Madam Speaker?
How fascinating. You see, the Speaker was just on the floor, Mr. Chairman, and spoke fiction. While there had been anecdotal accounts of such promises which she has referred to, there have been no official written accounts of these promises. CRS has done an extensive research of the papers and writings of both President Roosevelt and General MacArthur and have not found any written proof that these promises were made.
It is very unfortunate that the Speaker would not have stuck around to listen to that. Several requests for her to stay on the floor, she turns and just walked on out. Now, why would she do that? She doesn't want to hear the truth. It is better to stand on the floor and just say this.
I appreciate the chairman having withdrawn the amendment since the Parliamentarians were about to rule in my favor, so I appreciate that, that the comments were parliamentary and permissible on the floor.
Let me say, the challenge that we have had here in the committee is that when Mr. Filner brought his bill he needed an offset, and the offset is that in order to come up with $1 billion, he used the Hartness decision. And that would take $1 billion from American veterans. Now, that is what got us all into this.
Now, the gentleman brings an amendment and tries to say, oh, no, I don't want to use the Hartness decision. The Hartness decision is extremely important, Mr. Chairman, and I want to address it here for a moment. Because in the committee itself, when I tried to strike the offset, I was defeated on a party-line vote. And there would be a tough vote here on the floor if we were going to vote to repeal Hartness.
The Hartness decision is that we give a pension to individuals who served during a period of war, are elderly, severely disabled, and indigent. It is bothersome to me that we would deny these individuals that pension to then give to someone else. Therein lies the challenge.
Chairman Edwards and I had a good conversation, and it is the offset with which many of us are uncomfortable about, and we are trying to figure out how best to navigate our way through this issue. And in the same spirit in which we are going to work on solar, we are going to work on this issue. But we are not going to repeal Hartness.
Hartness comes from a 2006 United States Court of Appeals veterans claims decision that overturned the Department of Veterans Affairs decision that denied an 86-year-old legally blind World War II veteran, Robert A. Hartness, a VA benefit called a special monthly pension. That is what they wanted to overturn.
The court reversed the VA's denial of benefits to Mr. Hartness, and required the VA to begin making those payments. The court held that the U.S. law requires an award of the special monthly pension to a veteran eligible for VA nonservice-connected disability pension if, in addition to being at least 65 years of age, he or she has a minimum disability rating of 60 percent or more, or is considered permanently housebound.
The VA determined Mr. Hartness to be 70 percent disabled due to loss of vision, and the VA has also determined that this offset would affect about 20,000 who would file for this type of decision.
So I am most hopeful, I know there is some agreement among myself and other members on both sides of the aisle that if we want to address the issue regarding the Filipino War Veterans of World War II issue, that should be addressed as a standalone. Let's do not repeal or overturn the
Hartness decision because you need $1 billion and so we are going to take it from World War II elderly, disabled, housebound veterans. That is a little bizarre and disturbing to me.
I yield back the balance of my time.