Mr. Chairman, I thank the chairman for yielding me time. Mr. Chairman, I want to rise in strong support of H.R. 4567, and I want to commend the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Rogers) who has shown tremendous leadership on this bill, a very,…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the chairman for yielding me time.
Mr. Chairman, I want to rise in strong support of H.R. 4567, and I want to commend the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Rogers) who has shown tremendous leadership on this bill, a very, very difficult bill, and the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Sabo) and all the staff on both sides of the aisle doing an outstanding job of moving this homeland security appropriations bill to the floor under a very tight fiscal circumstance.
We received a tremendous number of specific requests, and each of us has had to say no many more times than we would have liked to. I know that all Members of this Chamber have specific accounts they believe should have increased funding or areas for which they want to include language. There are particular programs that need more direction and money.
Most, if not all, of our colleagues care deeply about homeland security. We want it done right, and we want tangible results. However, at some point we need to focus on the possible and the reasonable knowing that none of us are going to be fully satisfied. I am not satisfied with the level of funding for the State formula grant, but given all of the factors that must be considered when addressing the various risks in each congressional district, the number for this program is not unreasonable; particularly when one considers that is a half a billion dollars over the administration's request.
We should also remember that there are hundreds of millions of dollars out there in our States that have yet to be obligated for homeland security. I am not satisfied with what I believe is less than adequate attention devoted to the threat of agroterrorism, particularly as it relates to prevention activities and needed work to advance animal vaccines; and I openly criticized the people in the Department who have been shortsighted in this area. I intend to be an advocate for protecting our agriculture economy from terrorism.
The potential cost of agroterrorism to rural economy is hard to imagine, yet alone the cost as far as food safety.
For those who want to score easy political points, this is a great bill for you. I will be one of those first who worry about funding levels. But none of us holds the answers to what truly defines adequate funding for homeland security.
As we debate this appropriations bill, I challenge the critics today to be honest with the American people. This is not an easy bill to write, and the most complex and the most demanding homeland security functions make easy targets for those who claim to be an authority on what is the best way to spend our homeland security dollars.
As the chairman has said, we can all think of more ways to spend money on homeland security, and there is no end to what we could spend. Nobody can argue that. And the issue is how well we shepherd our limited resources. In my view, this is one of the most important spending measures we will consider this year. We all know what the budget situation is; but we have crafted a very, very good bill.
I urge the Members to support this bill, keep the debate honest, and pass it quickly because it is so important to our constituents and to this Nation.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the requisite number of words.
Mr. Chairman, I just rise in strong opposition to this amendment. While everyone fights for money, and that is good, that is natural, it is what we would expect, the fact of the matter is these dollars have to be distributed across this country.
The gentleman talked about threat. Well, the way the dollars are given out through the committee, threat is the third highest priority. It is population, it is presence of vulnerability of critical infrastructure and threat; three times more emphasis put on population than on threat.
When you talk about defining threat, you tell me about what destroying our food supply in this country would mean: agri-terrorism. You talk about destroying the infrastructure that we have in this country outside of the major urban areas. When we start talking about the places of high threat, I think there is no way to calculate the number of places that can be destroyed.
We cannot write off the rest of the country. This bill already recognizes a balance between the urban areas and the rural areas. This bill gives the urban areas over $1.2 billion, directed to urban areas, $280 million more than last year; and now they want to take more away from everybody else in this country.
Every State has a plan in place. We have a lot of community entities, counties, in the State of Iowa that are trying to comply with those plans today; and they need the resources as much as any other place does.
If we are just talking about who has got the most people, that is one thing. When we talk about analyzing how people can respond to a threat throughout this country, that is another thing. Everybody in this House has approximately the same number of people, and we all love them as much as the next guy does. I want to protect my people as much as anyone in New York or New Jersey, but I think it is wrong to have all of these dollars go to one area out of my people's protection. It is simply wrong.
The gentleman talked earlier about we have got to do what the President said. He said we should have this many more dollars as far as urban areas. Well, let us just follow that.
If we follow the President's request, we would have no money in this bill for rail security; we would have cut firefighter grants by $245 million; we would have doubled airline ticket taxes; there would be $43 million less for air cargo security. You might be interested, if you are from New York, we would have no money for metropolitan response teams, for which the committee gave $50 million. There would be
$50 million less for radiological detection devices at our seaports and $29 million less for baggage screening at our airports. In fact, if we followed the President's request, there would be $500 million less in this bill to go to your protection.
I think it is a balanced bill as it is; and like the chairman said, is there ever enough anywhere? Well, maybe not. Will one more dollar do it in one place rather than another? I do not know. No one knows that. But the fact of the matter is, there are real threats in rural America; there are real threats in urban America.
I yield to the gentleman from Kentucky.
Yes, it would.
The gentleman is correct.
That is correct.
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, obviously the chairman is correct.
The fact of the matter is, I honestly believe there is not enough money for the formula grants. As we are pursuing this amendment, I have another amendment where we will transfer $275 million back into the formula grants, because I think it is so important that the entire country be protected, and not just certain areas who cannot define threat and are only basing their premise on how many people live in one area.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
I thank the gentleman for yielding.
First of all, I would like to say that the gentleman from New York said that dollars going to protect my citizens in my State, their safety, their well-being, is pork. I take great offense to that. It is not pork to have people who are safe in their homes. I do not care where they live in this country.
I will also say that when we talk about this formula, talk about threat, the fact of the matter is there are some very, very large threats or potential threats in rural areas, whether you talk about nuclear energy plants, whatever. But just because they do not have people living immediately around them, they are not going to be eligible for any of the funds at all.
I would also like to address one quick point talking about intelligence. The fact of the matter is there were hundreds of U.S. agriculture documents that were found in al Qaeda caves and also a large part of the al Qaeda training manual is devoted to agri- terrorism. If you do not like to eat in New York, apparently, let us just forget about the rest of the country.