Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my friend and colleague from New York (Mr. Reynolds) for sharing with us what is in this bill because the Members probably are still at their Web sites trying to figure it out. The reason we are here right now…
Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my friend and colleague from New York (Mr. Reynolds) for sharing with us what is in this bill because the Members probably are still at their Web sites trying to figure it out.
The reason we are here right now is not to go into the substance of the bill but for me and others to try to encourage the leadership to kill this bill and do this the right way. There are 650 pages to this tax bill and 650 pages explaining the tax bill. This adds another 1,200 pages to the 6,000-page IRS Code that we have here.
We know that Members are supposed to have 3 days in order to find out what is in these 1,200 pages. That is difficult enough. The problem is the Members do not have the bill. They have no bills in their offices. But our friend from New York (Mr. Reynolds) has said not to worry, the government has bought them Web sites to find out what is in the bill.
I want to say to those that may be interested in what is in the bill, since when you go home people may ask you, tune into wayside and share with Members of this august body what is in this bill we are going to vote on. We would like to have had 3 days to have looked into this. But the Republicans do not have 3 days to give us. We would have liked to have used the rules of the House, but they say we have to have martial law. I guess it has something to do with combat, but they have put martial law to the House of Representatives, denying us the opportunity to do anything but to look at the Web site.
Why are there so few Republicans and Democrats on the floor? Lack of dedication? Not wanting to understand this complex piece of legislation? No. They are at their Web sites. So, Americans, stop what you are doing now, go to waysandmeans.house.com so when we come home and share with you the good things we have brought to you, the fact that you do not have to totally rely on the Internal Revenue Service, we will have the private sector collectors helping us out. It is on the Web site. And, of course, if you are in tobacco, bully, $10 billion you get it, smoking goes up; but if you manufacture you are in a good business.
What about these charities that they ask you to give cause to? No, not in this tax bill. I do not know how to tell you to get that on waysandmeans.house.com, but it is there. But if you are into pro sports teams, if you are into race track cars being depreciated, if you are foreign, of course, and you are into horse racing and dog racing and gambling, then go to waysandmeans.house.com.
If you really want to find out what we are trying to correct, and that is the tariff and sanctions that have been put on us by the World Trade Organization, we are not certain yet whether we covered that, but when Santa Claus sees the sleigh coming, he wants to pile up on it. So the little part that this bill was supposed to take care of, we hope that they did that. But for the rest, the lobbyists that really believe that before this election they have to show their appreciation to those people who put the bill together, well, they do make out from what I understand.
I will not be able to speak too much about this. I was in the conference, and then they put the Senate piece together with the House piece. Therefore, I did not sign it because I did not know how it was all going to come together. But I said, I will wait and see what they have done. But guess what? It was not until 12:15 that they brought the 1,000 pages to my desk. So I immediately went out and I said, but it is not just for conferees, there are other Members here, there are Democrats and Republicans.
And what do they tell me? Tell them to go to waysandmeans.house.com.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, well, we have been denied the opportunity, at least the Members, to actually see what is in these 600 pages of statute and another 600 pages to explain what they mean. But, once again, I would ask Americans to go to waysandmeans.house.gov, because if the Members do not know everything that is in this bill, then maybe their lawyers would be able to tell them, because if this is what simplification is all about, we are going to have a pretty rough time filling out our taxes
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer), the outstanding minority whip, to share his views on this complex piece of legislation. I have been advised he has been at this website all evening studying the bill.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 additional minute to the gentleman from Maryland, but I want to advise the gentleman that when he suggests that we read the bill, that the bill has not been distributed to the Members.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Levin), an outstanding member, a senior member of the committee.
(Mr. LEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, it is my great honor to yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), our distinguished leader who has been a credit to our country and to this Congress.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
That was exactly what I was about to say, Mr. Speaker. They are telling us what is going on in this conference with those other people over there. What you should be telling us if this bill is so exciting for working people in America, why did you not give it to the Members to look at?
The distinguished gentleman from Oklahoma, he may not have a bill. No one else got a bill except we conferees, and I am not up to the 1,100th page yet. So all of the exciting things that you are hearing about what they finally put in the bill, I hope people go to waysandmeans.house.gov because none of the Members except the conferees have the bill. I do not know why they do not have the bill. But I suspect there are things in here that we are going to speculate that is in here and they will refer us to the problem page, wherever they are holding that bill.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Neal), a great friend and a great legislator and a senior member of the Committee on Ways and Means.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Cardin), a senior member of the Committee on Ways and Means.
(Mr. CARDIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I want to join in thanking the chairman for expanding the jurisdiction of the Committee on Ways and Means so all of us could have a better understanding of these agricultural problems. Quite frankly, coming from New York, I never did understand the plight of farmers and tobacco farmers, and I do not know how far we are going to go in expanding this, but I am glad that we have a gentleman from outside of the committee to recognize and to praise the chairman, as I do.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to praise and yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Etheridge) so we can further edify the Committee on Ways and Means about problems other committees of jurisdiction have.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume to just note that I now get it. If you do not have enough votes to get a tax bill passed, reach out and get some farmers.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. McIntyre), to further explore the problems that have been resolved for our farmers.
(Mr. McINTYRE asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume to note that I am not saying this problem should not have been fixed, I just wondered whether it should have been in a tax bill. I am certain that those that want to see other problems that were fixed can go to WaysandMeans.House.gov and they will understand why we had to fix bows and arrows, and fishing tackle boxes, and foreign made seal fans, how we had to help native whaling tribes, how we had to help foreign horse racing and dog racing gambling, how we had to help pro sports team owners, how we had to shorten the depreciation period for car race tracks.
This is really not admonishing, or, in any way, degradating the chairman, it is just we do not have the bill and we do not know what else is in there. So it is good to hear from Members that do know, because they know they promised to vote for the bill in order to get relief.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume to the gentlewoman from the Virgin Islands (Mrs. Christensen), whose taxpayers will be hurt seriously.
(Mrs. CHRISTENSEN asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Butterfield), a new but a very hardworking Member who is going to get us away from taxes and the complexity of the legislation and get back to tobacco.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I do not have anyone left who wants to talk about tobacco, but I wish I had known the chairman would be this flexible. I had some draft legislation that I could have possibly gotten into the conference report, but I just did not know.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Lampson), who would like to speak on a tax issue.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
We have taken care of sales taxes and tobacco. I do not know whether we are taking care of the Treasury, though, because they had sent a terrible letter to us indicating that they thought that this bill had too much in the way of special interest tax provisions, which benefited few taxpayers and increased the complexity of the Tax Code.
The President indicated he wanted to simplify the Code. We know the only major Republican bill we have in the House is the national retail sales tax. So maybe, once again, I can say that since the Members of the House have not had the opportunity to review this five-pound bill, that people can go to
WaysandMeans.House.gov and find out whatever else Santa Claus has brought in bringing us this gift package on the eve of an election.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
You just cannot have it both ways. You cannot say that you want our American firms to be competitive in France and all over Europe and in Central and South America. If you give them incentives to be able to do this to compete, the jobs that they would have here, these firms in order to be successful have to have some workers. And we are not going to say that we are going to give passports to every American to find a job overseas. It is the multinationals that have to be governed by where the profits are, not where the patriotism is.
So if you want to be competitive overseas, if you want them to be able to do the best vaccine in the world for flu, then you encourage them to do it overseas. But one day you will look around and you will see that all of this competition, we have taken our skilled labor jobs, things we used to be proud of, televisions, computers, cars, shoes, things that used to say ``Made in the USA.'' Now, if it is not made in the USA, I hope you are not going to give a passport or citizenship to those foreigners who are making it. I have nothing against the CEOs except I want it to be, not an equal playing field, I want to give every American manufacturer a fair advantage to have jobs here in the good old USA. I am sorry that there are other people that believe that these tax incentives are good for the United States when our jobs go overseas.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Let me thank the gentleman from Ohio, my friend and someone that has now brought us back to why we are here. From time to time people are talking about tobacco and sales tax and things like that; but as he pointed out, we are here to correct a $4 billion World Trade Organization problem that we had. If we had just taken away the
subsidy, guess what? We would have reduced the deficit by $70 billion. But we took a big different course, and so we are taking care of tobacco, and we are also taking care of a problem that some people have in their States where they do not have income taxes so they want to get equity. I have to learn how to do all of these things in case the original purpose of the bill does not have enough supporters and we want to make it bipartisan. We have to find Democrats who have real problems back home in other areas.
Mr. Speaker, for that reason, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird) who really first brought this problem to my attention, and I wanted to make certain that it got in this bill before the Committee on Agriculture took care of it.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I would like to say that she is indeed a real Member from Washington. We will miss her. I want to thank her for her support for the real FSC bill that she supported Crane-Rangel. We will miss her. We thank her for the great contribution she made to our committee and to this Congress.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee) for the purpose of making a unanimous consent request.
(Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Emanuel), an outstanding Member of our party and of the House.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee and chairman of the whole conference for having a major tax bill come to the floor, not in the middle of the night, but at least nine or ten o'clock, which is a courtesy. I only wish that he had given the Members of the House an opportunity to at least see the bill, but that is asking for too much. But, again, I want to thank him that he did get it on the Web site, and it is going to encourage a lot of Members on both sides to get more computer wise. We may not ever know what is in these tax bills; but we are learning, in the few minutes that we do have, what they do have in this tax bill.
So remember, for people who do not know what they are getting and who is getting the benefits or whether it is tax related or not, if someone wants to say ``thank you'' or they are sorry that they missed me, go to waysandmeans.house.gov.
I hope the other committees learn how to do this because I have spent 34 years here, and this seems to be a waste for us to ask what is in bills anymore since we have to go to the Web site. Or maybe we can find out how Members of the House really do not have to come down here. Just go to the Web site, ask what have they done, and if they are not a conferee, they can go to waysandmeans.house.gov.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.