Mr. Chairman, I thank the chairman for the time. Mr. Chairman, I rise in general support. I really want to acknowledge the very difficult and great work by the gentleman from Kentucky (Chairman Rogers) and the ranking member, and as a…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the chairman for the time.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in general support. I really want to acknowledge the very difficult and great work by the gentleman from Kentucky (Chairman Rogers) and the ranking member, and as a member of this subcommittee, as a member of the Select Committee on Homeland Security, this is a tough, tough, tough piece of work to put together, and I rise to acknowledge that. Everybody knows where I come from. I come from the State that absorbed one of the greatest hits in the history of this country. So there are real challenges here that have real life consequences.
The gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Rogers) is one who has gotten that, and I wanted to recognize and I think he in this bill has attempted to bring and indeed has brought as balanced an approach as we could expect in this process, and as he said, this is an evolving process, and we may have some honest disagreements among friends, but we are united on the general principles. This bill does do an awful lot of accomplishing some of the things that we need.
I rise for the purpose of engaging in a colloquy with the chairman as well. I want to thank him for participating in that, and I want to address a significant issue related to the Department of Homeland Security. That is the geospatial management issue which is a critical tool in providing homeland security.
Mr. Chairman, I applaud the gentleman's work, the committee's work and the administration in providing due attention to geospatial technologies.
Satellite imagery, aerial photography and other geospatial technologies provide data to quickly visualize activity patterns, map location and provide information to conduct analyses to help prevent or lessen the impact from an emergency situation.
Mr. Chairman, there is no single office in DHS responsible for geospatial management and, therefore, no corresponding budget. In the present structure, the geospatial information officer does not have the authority to compel DHS directorates to cooperate.
Geospatial coordination will help end duplication of geospatial activities.
A geospatial management office needs to be created and codified within DHS under the Chief Information Officer.
I am pleased to see report language stating clear and concise policy direction is needed for geospatial information and technology efforts.
Under the gentleman from Kentucky's (Chairman Rogers) leadership, this committee supports the Department's request of $5 million to create a Department-wide geographic information system capability under the direction of the Chief Information Officer.
I would like to personally thank the gentleman for that and many other efforts in this bill and for the last several years and for his support and assistance.
I yield to the gentleman from Kentucky.
I thank the gentleman from Kentucky (Chairman Rogers). As this process continues, I hope a geospatial information office is created, with a corresponding budget, at DHS.
Would the gentleman agree to work with me during conference to strengthen report language to direct the Secretary to create the Office of Geospatial Management within the CIO's office to oversee the geospatial activities?
I thank the chairman for all of his work, and let me just say, this is a tough, tough bit of work we have to do, an important debate, and we have one of the best at the helm, leading us in it.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I want to as well applaud and acknowledge the work of the subcommittee chairman on this funding for the SAFER Act. It is something that we worked together with the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer) and others through the subcommittee process, through the full committee markup. It is an important piece, an important effort. The $50 million is going to go a long way to maintain and preserve some essential services in some of the key and critical areas. And it was not an easy thing to do, and I think it is important. I am strongly in support of this.
Last year Congress enacted a new authorization as part of fiscal year 2004 DOD, an authorization bill known as the SAFER Act. It provided funds to hire up to 75,000 new firefighters. These are people critically needed in important places.
When I spoke earlier, Mr. Chairman, I talked about how balanced this was, how tough this bill was, how there were some really tough decisions in it, and this is a chairman who worked hard to find the right balances and find the right equities, and here is an instance where he did that, and I want to applaud him for that.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I had hoped to introduce two amendments tonight that I think go to the core of what is our fundamentally greatest challenge as it relates to protecting the homeland, and that is to provide a proper structure within which the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Government can properly and appropriately respond to the threats and risks that are presented out there unbiased, focused on the idea that the resources we have have to be directed to the places that are of greatest threat and at greatest risk.
The first amendment that I attempted to offer would have changed the formula, a formula that is pre-September 11, a formula that provides funding to jurisdictions regardless of the risk and the threat that it faces. I will quote one of my colleagues, one of the great members of the committee.
The gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Wamp) said this bill, this funding proposition is not about cost sharing with local and State governments because we cannot meet all of those needs. I agree with him. We cannot meet all of those needs.
But this is about meeting the legitimate, precise and efficient needs of this Nation to protect its citizens. Our enemies, al Qaeda, the terrorist network, have something in common with us: They have finite resources, as do we. But one of the advantages that they have had is they are specifically targeted and are targeting their efforts to maximize the impact on the American people and the threat they present to us.
Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I propose this amendment in which we will transfer back to the President's budget number $446 million to the high threat fund that was established in the fiscal year 2003 supplemental.
The reason we need to do that is because we are actually slipping over the last couple of years in terms of the funds that we are sending out to meet the needs in the communities that are our greatest threat.
I will point to a couple of things. The national average per capita is $7.59; and, yet, jurisdictions like California, Texas, New York, Florida, and Illinois all are below $6, all in the $5 range in terms of what funding they are receiving through the formulation.
Now, we cannot vote on that particular part of activity in this amendment, but we can do something about it to give the Department itself the kind of flexibility and the Secretary the kind of flexibility he would need over the 2005 budget cycle to best protect the people of this Nation, and the Department is asking us to do this.
I will point to the statement of administration policy just released earlier today, and I will quote from it: ``The administration believes that the programs funded through the Department of Homeland Security should be better targeted toward terrorism preparedness. The bill does not provide the request to double funding for the risk-based Urban Area Security Initiative, UASI, program, but instead provides funding above the requested level for the basic State and local formula grant program.''
Mr. Chairman, there is a lot of work that needs to be done in the next couple of years, certainly in the next year. I think we ought to give Tom Ridge and the Department what they need, what they have requested, what they need in the coming year in order to best ensure that this Nation is indeed protected. The net result of what we have established here in Congress over the last 3 years is a reduction.
For example, I know the gentleman from New York (Mr. Fossella) was on the floor earlier and talked about the needs of New York City. Let me say that New York City spends a billion dollars a year on security in counterterrorism intelligence; and, yes, they have received some money, $300 million to New York State, I think, in 2003; but do you know what they received last year, Mr. Chairman? $50 million, a 70 percent reduction from the year before.
When James Comey came from the U.S. Attorney's office to talk about Jose Padilla the other day, it did not seem to me there was a 73 percent reduction in New York City. It seemed to me they are in the bull's eye, as are other jurisdictions; and we need to make sure that the Secretary and the Department have the appropriate tools to do their job.
The President has asked us to do this. It is enacted in the President's budget. You can look on page 147 of that budget. You can read their statement. Secretary Ridge to the 9/11 commission and repeatedly to the Senate and to the House has asked for that kind of flexibility. We ought to be giving him that kind of flexibility. This Congress ought not to be micromanaging the Department of Homeland Security. I think most of us agree on that, but we ought to be providing them the proper tools and resources with which they can do their job. That is what this amendment proposes. It gives them what they have asked for in their budget, and I ask my fellow Members to support that.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, the gentleman reminded me of two important points that I do not think have been stressed here, and I very briefly want to state them.
One, it has been a misnomer by a number of Members who have come to the floor today pointing out that there is critical infrastructure throughout this Nation that needs to have security dollars addressed and directed towards it. This fund, the UASI fund, the high-threat fund includes all critical infrastructure.
Point number two is that this is not about any region. This is not about New York. This is about the whole Nation. As my friend, the gentleman from New York (Mr. Fossella), said earlier, this is about one family, not 50.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.