Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the rule. We think this is an important piece of legislation. It seems to have fairly broad bipartisan support in most areas. Obviously this legislation reauthorizes the CSBG Act and preserves the CSBG as…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the rule. We think this is an important piece of legislation. It seems to have fairly broad bipartisan support in most areas. Obviously this legislation reauthorizes the CSBG Act and preserves the CSBG as a State block grant program. The main issue here is that we do try to do some things that improve the quality of the block grant program.
First of all, State and local goals must be met by grantees, so there is some accountability, which probably heretofore has been lacking in some cases.
States monitor grantees to ensure that services are provided to those with the greatest need. Many times it has not in the past gone to those who are most destitute.
It streamlines reporting data to HHS to avoid duplication and eliminates extraneous information. I guess everyone likes to see less paperwork.
Also the States must either defund low-performing entities or justify to Labor-HHS why low-performing entities continue to be funded. So there is, again, an area of accountability.
In addition, this particular bill encourages initiatives to improve economic conditions in rural areas, which are often underserved, encourages education and youth crime prevention through youth mentoring, which saves money and lives by investing in young people before they are enmeshed in the criminal justice system, and, of course, it also allows faith-based organizations to consider religion while hiring, while ensuring that recipients are not discriminated against on the basis of religion. Also it continues to fund discretionary programs at current authorization levels and extends them through 2009.
I might just mention one story that I think pretty much illustrates the importance of this situation. A young mother in my district was abandoned by her abusive fiancee. She had no money, no car, no job, no family support, and a 5-year-old child. A Blue Valley community action crisis intervention program provided counseling, obtained housing, helped her find a job, and so she is now supporting her child, productively employed and preparing to own her own home. This is just one story that can be told thousands of times.
So I urge support of this bill. It provides those who have great need in the most efficient, most cost-effective way.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank the gentleman from California (Mr. George Miller) for his kind comments regarding the overall worth of the bill. I am glad to see him back.
I really have three comments regarding the faith-based issue. First of all, I think that we need to recognize that there is legal precedent. And some of this has been discussed earlier. There are four different acts: The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration Act; the Welfare Reform Act of 1996; the Community Renewal Tax Relief Act of 2000; the Community Services Block Grant Act of 1998, which we have been discussing, which is current law; title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which we have been discussing; Supreme Court decisions such as Bowen v. Kendrick. So all of these provide sound legal support for the fact that faith-based organizations have a right to consider religion in determining hiring. And so we think this is well substantiated.
What time of night we voted on a bill should not have any bearing. We are accountable people. We cannot call Kings Acts because it was at a certain time of day.
We hear about special interests being involved in this, such as the Salvation Army, Catholic Social Services. These are not really very powerful special interest groups, and I do not think we need to worry about them very much.
The second point I would make is this, and the chairman made this earlier, this is a bill that is working. And so often when we get down to where the rubber hits the road in this body, we want to quibble over details, and we do not want to worry about the big picture. The big picture is how many people in need are we helping? And, obviously, this bill has done a good job for the last 6 years. There have been minimal complaints. Matter of fact, we know of no legal challenge to this bill.
So why all the sudden now is this becoming a big issue?
The third point that I would like to make is simply that of return on investment. And we hear a lot about budget deficits and our tax dollars and how they are being spent. Well, let us take a look at this because I think this is important. I will give you a case history from my district.
One agency has total funding of $8.5 million; $250,000 of this comes from community service block grants. That is 3 percent of the total. This particular agency serves 12,000 people. So if you prorate that, that means an average of $700 goes to each recipient. The community service block grant would then serve 350 of that 12,000.
Now, let us take, say we took that $250,000 community service block grant and said, okay, we got to go rent a building. We have to go hire 3 employees. We have to get a car. We have to buy some computers. We have to get some telecommunications going. You would eat up the whole $250,000 getting started. You would serve nobody.
What we are doing is getting more bang for the buck. I think everybody can understand that. We are not hurting anybody. I think it is important to understand that.
I think it is also important to understand that if faith-based organizations are not allowed to maintain hiring practices where faith is a consideration, obviously, many will leave the program. So they would be open to lawsuits regarding a hostile environment due to religious symbols and art. So if somebody has a picture on the wall that is a religious connotation, and somebody does not like it and they have been hired and they do not understand the mission of that organization, they can file a lawsuit because of a hostile environment which makes it almost impossible to function.
Also, as the chairman pointed out earlier, many faith-based organizations have employees with multiple responsibilities. So the music director at a church may also run the Head Start program. A youth pastor may run the food pantry. If you have multiple responsibilities, you obviously have to have people in place who understand the mission of that particular church or organization, and you cannot say, well, we need to have somebody who is socially acceptable and politically correct, but is actually the antithesis of what that particular organization wants to hire. You cannot do that.
Also, they could lose their tax-exempt status because tax-exempt status is provided to entities which share a common faith. So if you have to hire people that do not share that common faith, then how are you going to maintain that tax exemption? So we often assume the worst about faith-based organizations. I think this is a mistake.
The overwhelming majority of faith-based organizations hire people who agree simply with their mission. They hire people of other faiths but they want to make sure they understand the mission.
Dr. Nelson testified before our committee. She runs a faith-based organization in Chicago. She says their mission is based on a passage from the book of Isaiah that refers to justice and compassion. So obviously they hire a broad spectrum of people from many different faiths that simply aspire to that mission.
So this organization should not be forced to hire those who do not agree with the mission. That is simply what we are saying. We do not think there is widespread discrimination anyway.
Lastly, I will say this: The Supreme Court in Mitchell v. Helms set forth the proposition that members of religious organizations should always be presumed to be acting in good faith. It seems to me that we are doing exactly the opposite here. We are assuming that members of religious organizations act in exactly the opposite, they operate in bad faith. I do not think they do this. That is why for 6 years we have not had complaints. This is working. So we think we have a good bill. We think we need to pass it, as written, and we would urge a vote against the substitute.
Mr. Chairman, I am very pleased to rise today in support of my bill, H.R. 3030, Improving the Community Services Block Grant Act of 2003. H.R. 3030 reauthorizes the Community Services Block Grant Act (CSBG). The Community Services Block Grant program distributes Federal money to more than 1,100 Community Action Agencies nationwide that use those funds to lessen the effects of poverty.
In my congressional district, there are six Community Action Agencies: Blue Valley Community Action, Central Nebraska Community Services, Community Action Partnership of Mid-Nebraska (Kearney), Goldenrod Hills Community Services, Northwest Community Action, and Panhandle Community Services. Each of these agencies provide invaluable services to the citizens of Nebraska.
Many people have asked about what CSBG funds do. In short, CSBG funds provide the
glue that help Community Action Agencies coordinate funding and services across the spectrum of what families might need. An example of the success of the CSBG was shared with me by Shelley Mayhew of the Blue Valley Crisis Intervention. Shelley worked with a young mother with a 5-year-old child who was abandoned, with no money or car, by her abusive and violent fiance.
Unable to search for a job because of her inability to pay for childcare, lack of extended family support, lack of domestic violence services, and her lack of a car, since in rural Nebraska we have no mass transit system, this young mother was referred to Blue Valley Community Action Crisis Intervention. There, through the actions of staff at Blue Valley, the child was enrolled in school, the family received domestic violence counseling and found affordable housing, and the mother found a job that allows her to support her family. Today, this young mother is even enrolled in a program to help her prepare for homeownership. Shelley, the caseworker, says, ``I watched a family struggling and hopeless become self-sufficient and optimistic about the future. I feel very fortunate to be part of an agency that makes a difference in so many people's lives.''
This is just one story from my congressional district. H.R. 3030 preserves the CSBG as a true State block grant program, allowing States to establish and operate antipoverty programs that meet the unique needs of their low-income communities. It also retains the current definition of an eligible entity to include the grandfather provisions, but requires eligible entities to successfully develop and meet locally determined goals and meet State goals, standards, and performance requirements in order to continue to receive funds.
H.R. 3030 contains a number of important provisions:
Increases quality by requiring States to reevaluate funding the lowest-performing grantees. States are not required to defund these groups, but to explain why underperforming agencies should continue to receive funding. In addition, agencies are required to set locally determined goals and meet those goals and State goals, standards, and performance requirements.
Improves accountability by requiring states to take swift action to improve or defund low-performing entities that do not meet State and local goals.
Retains protections for faith-based charities. H.R. 3030 allows faith-based organizations to make employment decisions based on religion. I realize that this will be a topic of much discussion as we address this bill today, but I hope we can keep in mind that this is current law, signed into law by President Clinton. The bill does not permit federal funds to be used for the purposes of promoting religion. Rather, the CSBG funds under this bill can be used for secular purposes without compromising the essential character of the faith-based organization providing the services.
In addition, the bill maintains current overall funding levels as well as continues funding discretionary programs, including the National Youth Sports Program, which is particularly important to me.
I want to thank all the staff on both sides of the aisle who worked so hard to craft the compromise language that was necessary to insure that H.R. 3030 met the needs of the local organizations that work so hard to provide services to all of our constituents.
I urge passage of H.R 3030 and yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, in the absence of the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Boehner), I recognize myself for 3 minutes.
Mr. Chairman, I have been here all afternoon. I know the chairman of the committee has been here all afternoon. The main reason we have been here is we would like to see H.R. 3030, the Community Service Block Grant Act of 2003, passed.
I think most people here believe this is a good bill. It does provide needed services. There was a dust-up over the faith-based provision, but I think for the most part people are supportive.
We already have an unemployment compensation system. This amendment creates a new grant program. It creates a second system operated through Health and Human Services instead of the Department of Labor. What this amendment will do, it will certainly confuse consumers. It will splinter resources. It will weaken an already good bill. And furthermore, there is no money to fund the amendment. We would have to go through the appropriations process separately.
The amendment, in addition, is inconsistent with services provided under CSBG provisions. CSBG provides grants to States, not to individuals directly. So we have an entirely new system here and it alters the entire nature of the program.
Lastly, let me say something that is little bit controversial. I do not try to be partisan. I do not try to be controversial, but there are some numbers thrown around here about unemployment and I think that certainly many of those are accurate, many of them are very justified. However, we seldom hear the figures I am going to quote.
During 2003 we went from 137,447,000 jobs in the United States to 138,479,000 jobs, from January 2003 to January 2004. The unemployment rated dropped from 5.8 to 5.7. We would like to see it down at 2 or 3 percent, but it is dropping and it will probably continue to drop. So we feel that some folks that have lost their jobs have become entrepreneurs. Some have gone into business for themselves.
We understand the problems that the other side is trying to address. We simply do not believe this is the vehicle to do it. We would like to see the bill passed. We think that people need it, and we think that it is a well-written bill and I think will command widespread support, but this amendment certainly does not enhance the bill in any way.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier).
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, we reserve the balance of our time.
Mr. Chairman, we reserve the balance of our time.