Departments Of Labor, Health And Human Services, And Education, And Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2005
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 3 minutes. Mr. Chairman, this is probably the lowest-priced amendment to be offered to this bill, but what it does basically is takes away $84,500 from the Secretary of HHS's…
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 3 minutes.
Mr. Chairman, this is probably the lowest-priced amendment to be offered to this bill, but what it does basically is takes away $84,500 from the Secretary of HHS's management budget. The purpose of the amendment is to establish firmly the rights of Congress in regard to getting information from the administration.
Very quickly, during the course of drafting and debating the Medicare bill that dealt with prescription drugs, the head of CMS Mr. Scully threatened improperly the actuary for CMS and caused this actuary to withhold information from the House of Representatives which would have indicated that the drug bill would not cost $400 billion, but more like $530 or $540 billion. That is a $140 billion difference. It may very well have affected the way many of us might have voted on that bill. It was substantial information. This information was not classified, and it comes under a bill that started back in 1912 when then Senator LaFollette indicated that we should have this information in the normal course of our proceedings available to us. According to GAO, who has recently suggested that the point of this legislation be enacted, never in the history of that legislation since 1912 has anybody violated this law until now. And it was GAO who said that the recourse for violating the law, for preventing a member of the administration from giving us information relative to our business, should be that the salary of the Administrator of CMS was improperly paid during the time from the point he gagged his subordinate until the end of his term when he resigned in December.
So quite simply said once again, it is uncontrovertable that the law was broken by Mr. Scully, that the remedy is that he should not have the salary that he was paid during the period in which the information was withheld from us, and it indeed runs to the prerogative of this House to receive the information that is necessary for us to do our business in the normal course of legislating. And the Secretary can get the $84,500 back if he wants to go after Mr. Scully for it, and it is highly symbolic, but I think it is imperative that we establish our rights to receive information, either side of the aisle, or from any administration in the future.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Brown).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from California (Mr. Waxman).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I have one more speaker, but I did want to repeat that, as far as this gentleman is concerned, the issue here, I know the dollars are not significant, but I rather suspect that the laws that were violated were written by the Republican Party when it was in the minority, and I do not think it is an issue that is partisan. I really believe this is an issue that does not deal with anything other than the very most basic facts which we need to carry out our duties here. And, yes, the $84,500 is symbolic, but it is the only recourse that we have under the law. The law was clearly broken. It seems to me that we should demand that it be taken and leave it to the Secretary to collect the $84,500 in any manner that he sees fit.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pallone).
Mr. Chairman, I would, as a matter of prerogative of the House, encourage us all to support this modest amendment, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.