Mr. Chairman, I want to thank the gentleman from Massachusetts, the gentleman from Ohio. Mr. Chairman, not everything our Nation does is wrong. And one of the things our Nation does that the private sector wouldn't do or chose not to do…
Mr. Chairman, I want to thank the gentleman from Massachusetts, the gentleman from Ohio.
Mr. Chairman, not everything our Nation does is wrong. And one of the things our Nation does that the private sector wouldn't do or chose not to do was insure people against flooding. And that is a very good program.
When you consider that the predictions are that within the next 50 years 80 percent of all Americans will live within 50 miles of a coast line, then protection from flood insurance, protection from hurricanes is very important.
In southern Mississippi I have had very, very few complaints about the Federal flood insurance program. I have had tens of thousands of complaints about how people were treated by the wind coverage. So I want to commend the gentleman from Massachusetts and the gentleman from Ohio for raising the amounts that people can buy coverage for.
Most of southern Mississippi had older homes. People had lived in them for decades. And now they, and I, are going through simultaneous sticker shock. Houses that you may have bought 20, 30 years ago for $50,000, you have now got to replace for a heck of a lot more than that. So by raising the amount that people can cover themselves from $250,000 to $335,000 is a huge improvement. Also, raising the contents up to $135,000 again is a huge improvement. I think as people put a pad to their contents after they woke up the next morning and discovered that they were gone, I think everyone was surprised that they owned more than they thought they did and they lost more than they thought they did. So again this is a move in the right direction.
I want to commend the committee for putting in the money for the new flood maps. Water in Bay St. Louis got to be 26 feet above sea level in some places. That was unprecedented since the Europeans landed over 300 years ago. And the Navy Oceanographic Lab tells us we are in for 10 years of this. So, again, since this is a public entity funded with taxpayer dollars, I think it is very important, whether it is Pensacola, Florida, or Gulf Shores, Alabama. Anywhere in coastal America I think it is important that we know the propensity to flood, take adequate steps to minimize losses in future hurricanes.
I would also like to commend the committee for working with me on trying to address the Katrina fraud. Citizens of this country are noticeably upset that some of the generous money given to them, either as taxpayers or through groups like the Red Cross, was abused, that people milked the system, in some instances, to do things like a sex- change operation.
I happen to think the biggest fraud of all, though, Mr. Chairman, came from the insurance industry. And I will walk you through this. Under the National Flood Insurance Plan, we count on the private sector not only to sell the insurance policy; we count on the private sector to adjudicate the claim.
Now, wind damage is paid for by a private company. Flood damage is paid for by the Nation through the National Flood Insurance Plan.
So imagine yourself, a 25-year-old insurance adjuster. You have visions of being a company man or getting that next promotion. You may even own stock in your company. You are sent out to adjudicate a claim on a house that is no longer there, knowing that if you said the wind did it, it is coming out of your company's pocketbook. If you say the water did it, it is coming out of the taxpayers' pocketbook.
The FBI says that fraud is a crime of opportunity. And I think under this system, we have given the insurance industry the opportunity to stick the bill to the taxpayers every time there was any question. And I think they did.
Is it a coincidence that the insurance industry reported $44 billion in profits last year, in the same year that the National Flood Insurance Program lost $25 billion? Are they that much better at what they do? I don't think so.
I think they took claims that legitimately should have been paid by the wind policies and stuck it to the taxpayer to the tune of millions, if not billions, of dollars. And I am going to
offer an amendment in a little while to ask for an Inspector General's report to see if that is true. And if it is true, then we need to come back and change the system so that we don't just count on an insurance adjuster blindly sending the bill to the government and the government paying it every time.
Think about it. If the Members in this room want to be reimbursed for their trip to the airport, they have got to turn in a taxi receipt for 15 or 20 bucks. But in the case of the National Flood Insurance Program, Allstate, State Farm, Nationwide, fill in the blank, can bill the government for hundreds of billions of dollars, and we pay that claim without even bothering to look into this. That is wrong. It is a system ripe for abuse. And I am convinced it has been abused.
Last, and several other speakers have touched on this, we need to rethink the whole flood insurance program. Whether you are from Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, any coastal State, we don't need people who have invested their life savings in their houses getting abused by their insurance company. And let me tell you, it is happening every day.
Senator Trent Lott, one of the most powerful men in the Senate, feels like the only way he is going to get justice out of his insurer is to sue them.
Federal Judge Lou Guirola had to drop hearing cases, like Senator Lott, so that he could sue his insurance company.
Now, when U.S. Senators and Federal judges feel like the only way they are going to get justice is to go to court themselves, what is it like for the grandmas and grandpas out there? What kind of fair shake are they going to get? And the answer is they are not getting one.
So if the private sector is not going to do it fairly, if they are not going to do it right, then maybe we need to expand the National Flood Insurance Program and call it the National Hurricane Insurance Program. Because let me tell you what I think is going to happen. We spend a lot of money to send the hurricane hunters out there for the Air Force, a lot of money to tell us where these storms are going to hit and when. We have satellites up in space to tell us about these storms. Why do we do that? So that people will get the heck out of there before a storm hits.
Based on what has happened, based on the tens of thousands of southern Mississippians who have been denied legitimate claims for their wind coverage, I am convinced in the next hurricane people are going to die needlessly because they stay behind in their home with a camcorder so they can prove to the insurance adjuster whether it is wind or water. That is wrong. It is completely contrary to why we fund the hurricane hunters; it is completely contrary to why we put those satellites in space. A person should not have to die on his property to get justice from his insurance company. And although there is no Federal regulation of the insurance industry, maybe the abuses that took place after Katrina will cause some of my colleagues to rethink this.
So, again, the bill takes some very important steps on allowing people to purchase more flood insurance, to purchase more contents insurance. It is taking the right step on getting the flood maps much more accurate, not so much for the guys who have lived there for 20 or 30 years, but for all the new folks who are moving to the coast who need to know if their property has a propensity to flood.
So I am grateful for what has been done. I have offered some observations of what needs to be done.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, when the National Flood Insurance Program was put together, a couple of steps were taken to minimize the administrative costs of that program. One, under the National Write Your Own Program, allowed the private sector, companies like Allstate, State Farm and Nationwide, to sell this policy, get a fee for selling this policy, but the cost of actually paying the claims would be borne by the Federal Government. There is really nothing wrong with that. The problem came in when at the same time they allowed the same companies to adjudicate the claim in the aftermath of the storm.
The example I used earlier is that you have got a young claims adjuster. He is a company man. He works for State Farm; he works for Allstate or Nationwide. He has visions of being promoted to a manager. He has stock in that company. He wants to go far.
He is sent out to what is now a slab that just a few days ago was someone's home. There is nothing there. And he has to determine whether that house was destroyed by wind or by water.
In the case of south Mississippi, the Navy Oceanographic Lab tells us we had 6 to 8 hours of maximum hurricane winds before the water ever got there. In the case of the little town of Bay St. Louis, that meant you had winds for 6 to 8 hours from 100 miles an hour up to 150 miles an hour before the tidal surge came in and destroyed the evidence of what the wind did.
So this claims adjuster, who wants to go far with the company, can decide whether his company is going to pay
that claim through the wind pool, or whether the taxpayers are going to pay through the flood insurance program.
The FBI says that fraud is a crime of opportunity. No matter how well-intended Congress was when they wrote this, they created the opportunity for a heck of a lot of fraud. In fact, I think the biggest fraud that occurred after Hurricane Katrina wasn't people getting an extra FEMA check or two or three extra checks from the Red Cross, although that is deplorable. The biggest fraud occurred at the corporate level where the insurance industry made a corporate decision to, whenever possible, blame flooding every time and stick the taxpayers with bills that they should have paid.
Mr. Chairman, last year the insurance industry reported a $44 billion profit after everything. Last year Federal flood insurance lost $25 billion. That is the reason this bill is on the floor today. I don't think it is a coincidence, because I think what happened was whenever given the opportunity, the insurance industry stuck the taxpayer with bills that they should have paid.
So what I am asking for is for the Inspector General to look into this and hopefully use the Fraudulent Claims Act, which requires treble damages for anyone who submits a false claim to our Nation, in addition to a $5,000 or $10,000 fine every time a false claim is submitted. Because I am convinced that is precisely what happened.
Mr. Chairman, after we are told that that is what happened, I hope this Congress will come back and find a way to where we as a Nation won't just blindly accept the claims of an insurance industry when we pay that bill.
I used the analogy before. If Mr. Oxley, if Mr. Pickering, any Member of this body wants to be reimbursed for their trip to the airport, they have got to submit a claims ticket from that taxi driver for the 15 bucks, or they don't get paid.
But in the instance of national flood insurance, these insurance companies submitted claims for $100,000, $200,000, $250,000, and the taxpayer paid it every time without anyone second guessing. That is the opportunity for fraud, and I believe that fraud took place.
So, Mr. Chairman, I don't know of anyone who in their right mind could oppose this, I don't know of anyone who wants to see our tax dollars used unwisely, and I don't know of anyone who wants to see the National Flood Insurance Program defrauded or the subject of fraud.
So, again, it is my understanding that Mr. Oxley will accept this amendment. I very much appreciate that. I hope that when the Inspector General report comes back 6 months from now that the next Congress will take steps to take away this opportunity for fraud.
I yield to the gentleman from Ohio.
Again, Mr. Chairman, I very much thank the gentleman from Ohio, and I thank the gentleman from Massachusetts.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.